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The left turns compliant on violating civil liberties

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By Dana Milbank
June 14, 2013

Where have all the liberals gone?

President Obama, who as a Democratic senator accused the Bush administration of violating civil liberties in the name of security, now vigorously defends his own administration’s collection of Americans’ phone records and Internet activities.

Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid said he thinks Congress has done sufficient intelligence oversight. His evidence? Opinion polls.

House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi defended the programs’ legality and said she wants Edward Snowden prosecuted for leaking details of the secret operations.

Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), chairwoman of the Senate intelligence committee, accused Snowden of treason and defended false testimony given to her committee by the director of national intelligence, who in March had denied the programs’ existence.

With some exceptions, progressive lawmakers and the liberal commentariat have been passive and acquiescent toward the secret spying programs, which would have infuriated the left had they been the work of a Republican administration.

When libertarian Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) introduced legislation last week to curb the surveillance powers, he had no co-sponsors. When he held a news conference this week to unveil a lawsuit claiming the surveillance is unconstitutional, five members of Congress joined him — all Republicans.


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Dana Milbank: The left turns compliant on violating civil liberties - The Washington Post

So where's that group calling themselves "Voice of Resistance" a so-called Liberal group?
Why have Democrats shed their suspicion of government overreach? Is it because now one of their own is in charge?
Can we all assume that Democrats have shed their opposition to intrusion of privacy under Bush, to their acceptance of government assaults on privacy of individual Americans today?
 

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Repetition and chants, the technique of all cults. Sadly the chants don't change the fact that wolf continues to compare Bush's massive illegal domestic warrant less spying to President Obama's court approved surveillance.
Again proving cons can't criticize President Obama honestly.
 

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So much partisan failure. Bush never authored it in congress, adopted it and cried out against it like ofailure claimed when he wanted to elevate himself in the eyes of hating leftwing zealots. Also Bush did gather court approvals and like the congressman who wrote the original patriot act and survelliance issue said last week - we didn't write it for this!


Repetition and chants, the technique of all cults. Sadly the chants don't change the fact that wolf continues to compare Bush's massive illegal domestic warrant less spying to President Obama's court approved surveillance.
Again proving cons can't criticize President Obama honestly.
 

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So much partisan failure. Bush never authored it in congress, adopted it and cried out against it like ofailure claimed when he wanted to elevate himself in the eyes of hating leftwing zealots. Also Bush did gather court approvals and like the congressman who wrote the original patriot act and survelliance issue said last week - we didn't write it for this!
Once again, cons prove they prefer fantasy to reality. you cant back up anything you posted. Watch how I do it.

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The Bush administration built an unprecedented surveillance operation to pull in mountains of information far beyond the warrantless wiretapping previously acknowledged, a team of federal inspectors general reported Friday, questioning the legal basis for the effort but shielding almost all details on grounds they're still too secret to reveal.

The report, compiled by five inspectors general, refers to "unprecedented collection activities" by U.S. intelligence agencies under an executive order signed by President George W. Bush after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks

Report: Bush program extended beyond wiretapping - USATODAY.com


actual report

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/psp.pdf
 

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Where were the Right Wing Libertarians when the NSA mass-snooping of cellphone calls began in 2006?

Where were they when Bush wanted to send American citizens caught in the USA for terrorism, to Guantanamo Bay?
 

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Look at the lefties, bush did it, bush did it, wa wa wa, bush did it. You guys are so funny, anything for your chosen one, and yet your "actual report" doesn't illustrate Bush actually did it. Bush was present when they created the ability to do it, and may have done it so the chosen one is just off the hook for you - right? That's how you leftist zealots role correct? How about they are BOTH WRONG - oh no we can't say that cause your chosen looser in charge can't be wrong to you - can he?


Once again, cons prove they prefer fantasy to reality. you cant back up anything you posted. Watch how I do it.

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The Bush administration built an unprecedented surveillance operation to pull in mountains of information far beyond the warrantless wiretapping previously acknowledged, a team of federal inspectors general reported Friday, questioning the legal basis for the effort but shielding almost all details on grounds they're still too secret to reveal.

The report, compiled by five inspectors general, refers to "unprecedented collection activities" by U.S. intelligence agencies under an executive order signed by President George W. Bush after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks

Report: Bush program extended beyond wiretapping - USATODAY.com


actual report

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/psp.pdf
 

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Look at the lefties, bush did it, bush did it, wa wa wa, bush did it. You guys are so funny, anything for your chosen one, and yet your "actual report" doesn't illustrate Bush actually did it. Bush was present when they created the ability to do it, and may have done it so the chosen one is just off the hook for you - right? That's how you leftist zealots role correct? How about they are BOTH WRONG - oh no we can't say that cause your chosen looser in charge can't be wrong to you - can he?
Its illogical to blame Obama for a program created by Bush.

I fault Obama for using it, but not for creating it.
 

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Its illogical to blame Obama for a program created by Bush.

I fault Obama for using it, but not for creating it.
Not at all. Obama came to office with a dem majority congress. Any policy he did not like he had the ability to do away with. He did not and now he owns it.

There was PLENTY of criticism of Bush over the patriot act, if you didn't see it, then you weren't looking.


"Right Joins Left to Criticize Patriot Act"
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=90762
 

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Where were the Right Wing Libertarians when the NSA mass-snooping of cellphone calls began in 2006?

Where were they when Bush wanted to send American citizens caught in the USA for terrorism, to Guantanamo Bay?
They were complaining, stop with presuming selective outrage its tiresome. I've been here since 06, go look at my posts.
 

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Not at all. Obama came to office with a dem majority congress. Any policy he did not like he had the ability to do away with. He did not and now he owns it.

There was PLENTY of criticism of Bush over the patriot act, if you didn't see it, then you weren't looking.


"Right Joins Left to Criticize Patriot Act"
Right Joins Left to Criticize Patriot Act - ABC News
There wouldn't have been enough Democratic Senators to kill the PATRIOT Act.

Unlike the goose-stepping Republicans, Democrats don't have a litmus test for membership.
 

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Look at the lefties, bush did it, bush did it, wa wa wa, bush did it. You guys are so funny, anything for your chosen one, and yet your "actual report" doesn't illustrate Bush actually did it. Bush was present when they created the ability to do it, and may have done it so the chosen one is just off the hook for you - right? That's how you leftist zealots role correct? How about they are BOTH WRONG - oh no we can't say that cause your chosen looser in charge can't be wrong to you - can he?
mmmmm, you're not getting it. I see that a lot.

Bush had a massive illegal domestic spy network. He abused the warrantless wiretapping part of the Patriot act.
President Obama did not extend the part of the Patriot act that allowed warrantless wire tapping of Americans. The current surveillance was not warrantless. It was court approved.

So we're not saying its okay because Bush did it. President Obama didn't do it.

(read that as many times as necessary to get rid the non facts you cling to)
 
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