From a legal standpoint, "life" before birth is not really the issue. It's when that "life" is considered a legal person. The unborn are not considered legal persons with rights.
RvW was not decided on bad law. It was correctly decided in accord with the 1st Amendment by an extensive review of the unborn as seen from numerous western philosophical and religious views across history and other world religious view as well as several perspectives within biological sciences.
That you continue to devalue life to justify slaughter and pretend you arent advocating for the butchering of 800,000 unborn babies says everything I will ever need to know about you.
This is 100% BS. Nothing in RvW is "incoherent." It does not prescribe "abortion as a eugenic solution," etc.
If so, then provide the link or an explanation of the incorrect law citation instead of insulting.
That's the irony in all this. The decision made actually cited incorrect law...yet your idiotic claim is that it was solely due to religion.
But you did say something honest for once. The truth...facts...have no effect on me.
RvW made a point of the lack of universally agreed upon definitions of life before birth in the biological sciences or scientific philosophies, which have varied definitions based on their perspectives, world philosophies and religions, Biblical religions, the Judao-Christian tradition, and Christianity's main religious sects in America. SCOTUS referenced the diversity and so didn't offer a definition of life.
First, the Constitution doesn't evaluate life as more important than liberty - that is a Roman Catholic value, not an American one (and FYI not Jesus Christ's teaching, either). Ours is a constitution of a nation, and if the Constitution is not worth protecting to the extent of laying down one's life for it, its raison d'etre is destroyed.
The inherent right to body autonomy of the 4th amendment is not bad law. Its the basis of personal freedom. If we don't control our bodies then every other right is irrelevant.
You are entitled to your religious beliefs and opinion. You are not entitled to make your religious beliefs into law ........... unless you have circumvented the Constitution and endowed the Supreme Court of of the United States with your religious conservative minions who agreed to your command to deny women the right to make a private decisions about giving birth or not. Religious conservatives got Dobbs by the appointment of 5 ideological religious conservatives. The misunderstanding of history and the Constitution, the individual dishonesty and inability to conjure up even a minimal amount of intellectual processing will eventually embarrass this court and the raving idiots that supported the intellectual midgets that they elected to Congress.
What is the "value" of life exactly? Can you quantify it?
You know, nobody is making religious laws against you, taking away your basic Constitutional rights to attend your greedy little evangelical prosperity churches that devalue the lives of the poor or your membership in dishonest churches that devalue the lives of women, their children and their families. Nobody has made any law that interfered with your Constitutional right to preach money grubbing, discrimination and hate.
To some…it’s everything. To you…it’s nothing.
Meaningless platitude, subjective, and a Strawman argument. You claim life has "value." What is this "value?"
It is perfectly possible to determine the civil value of a life. Governments, institutions, organizations do it every day when they build roads, sewage plants, high rise buildings, make budgets, establish programs, run hospitals and establish immigration laws etc. It is impossible to determine the religious value of life for the church must cherish every life or there is no point in church. This is why there is separation of church and state.
Life has the value we assign it. You demean life to justify killing babies. You answer your own question. You dont need my input on any of this.
The life of the mother far outweighs the possibly of life of the fetus, that is not yet a person.
That's completely subjective and therefore you cannot assign any actual or objective value to anyone else or declare anything has value to begin with.
Specify where I have justified anything or why it's even necessary to begin with. No babies are killed either. So that's your own ignorance there!
You're the one assigning some "value," not me. I merely asked what this so called value is. It seems you can't objectively explain or quantify it. It's clear you have no actual input beyond emotional based rhetoric.
Life has the value to you that your church has assigned to it. You your church and your beliefs do not assign a value to life for me, only for you. You and your church are granted freedom by the Constitution to make this private decision and live by it. It doesn't give you a right to make that decision for me, or anyone else. You are right about one thing. Nobody need your input. It's a personal matter.
Don't you find it interesting, Mack, that you and your church enjoy the Constitutional right to make private decisions about personal religious matters, like assigning the value of life, and simultaneously deny that same right to women of reproductive age?
Liberty has the value we assign it. You demean liberty to justify forcing women to continue pregnancies, and because there is no difference to you in the life of a wanted embryo, an embryo that came from rape, and an embryo in an ectopic pregnancy, you demean liberty to stop rape or save a woman's life. You answer your own question. You believe rape that has started has a right to go on and on until it forces a woman to go through a childbirth that will put her in a permanent coma. That's what you believe in.
I defy you to find a single time where I have ever suggested or endorsed a ban on abortion.
How does abortion affect you, anyone else, or society in general? What are these so called "declines" attributed to abortion? Cite studies establishing a solid correlation!
You are under the mistaken impression that I care enough about you to continue your 'value of life' query. It was asked...answered...and I tend to not waste time with people that are mindlessly stuck in their own shit.
