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The Last Eight Years Were The Hottest on Record

9. In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”

10. Ecologist Kenneth Watt told Time that, “At the present rate of nitrogen buildup, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

11. Barry Commoner predicted that decaying organic pollutants would use up all of the oxygen in America’s rivers, causing freshwater fish to suffocate.

12. Paul Ehrlich chimed in, predicting in 1970 that “air pollution…is certainly going to take hundreds of thousands of lives in the next few years alone.” Ehrlich sketched a scenario in which 200,000 Americans would die in 1973 during “smog disasters” in New York and Los Angeles.

13. Paul Ehrlich warned in the May 1970 issue of Audubon that DDT and other chlorinated hydrocarbons “may have substantially reduced the life expectancy of people born since 1945.” Ehrlich warned that Americans born since 1946…now had a life expectancy of only 49 years, and he predicted that if current patterns continued this expectancy would reach 42 years by 1980 when it might level out. (Note: According to the most recent CDC report, life expectancy in the US is 78.6 years).

14. Ecologist Kenneth Watt declared, “By the year 2000 if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil. You’ll drive up to the pump and say, `Fill ‘er up, buddy,’ and he’ll say, `I am very sorry, there isn’t any.’” (Note: Global production of crude oil last year at 82.275M barrels per day (bpd) was just slightly below the record output in 2018 of 82.9M bpd, and about 50% higher than the global output of 55.7M bpd around the time of the first Earth Day).

15. Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.

16. Sen. Gaylord Nelson wrote in Look that, “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

17. In 1975, Paul Ehrlich predicted that “since more than nine-tenths of the original tropical rainforests will be removed in most areas within the next 30 years or so, it is expected that half of the organisms in these areas will vanish with it.”

18. Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
 
same science that said global cooling in the 1970's, that the ozone layer had a giant hole in it that would be the death of us all if acid rain didn't get us first, that taught be the Big Bang and Pluto was a planet and the same science that said asbestos was safe .... yeah, science is wrong, a LOT. How's those covid shots working ?


Arctic blast this week brings the coldest Christmas in nearly 40 years for millions​

Covid shots worked fine for me :).
 
Controlling people is so much easier when you have them constantly in fear. Beats using clubs and chains. Way more efficient and profitable.
Actually thinking (a strange concept for conservatives), examining scientific evidence instead of youtube and social media, and digesting what you discovered might educate you. Instead you post reactionary nonsense about 'fear'. Knowledge is power; ignorance is weakness.
 
again, science is wrong, often

we might see 50 consecutive years of cooling from here on
2024 might be the coldest on record
2024 might be the hottest too and it might be the most rain record or the least

meteorologist can't even predict the low pressure/high pressure/weather patterns more then 10-15 days in advance but ya'll are thinking we can predict warming/cooling ?




Here are 18 examples of the spectacularly wrong predictions made around 1970 when the “green holy day” (aka Earth Day) started:

1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis that threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 issue of Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China, and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
Then never take medicine.....because sometimes science is wrong
 
again, science is wrong, often

we might see 50 consecutive years of cooling from here on
2024 might be the coldest on record
2024 might be the hottest too and it might be the most rain record or the least

meteorologist can't even predict the low pressure/high pressure/weather patterns more then 10-15 days in advance but ya'll are thinking we can predict warming/cooling ?




Here are 18 examples of the spectacularly wrong predictions made around 1970 when the “green holy day” (aka Earth Day) started:

1. Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”

2. “We are in an environmental crisis that threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.

3. The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”

4. “Population will inevitably and completely outstrip whatever small increases in food supplies we make,” Paul Ehrlich confidently declared in the April 1970 issue of Mademoiselle. “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.”

5. “Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”

6. Ehrlich sketched out his most alarmist scenario for the 1970 Earth Day issue of The Progressive, assuring readers that between 1980 and 1989, some 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would perish in the “Great Die-Off.”

7. “It is already too late to avoid mass starvation,” declared Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for Earth Day, in the Spring 1970 issue of The Living Wilderness.

8. Peter Gunter, a North Texas State University professor, wrote in 1970, “Demographers agree almost unanimously on the following grim timetable: by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China, and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions….By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine.”
So what? Science works through trial and error. Irrespective of what past predictions may have said, it's a simple exercise to compare global temperature increase pre-Industrial Revolution with those of today. Additionally we are experiencing increasingly frequent extreme weather events; record droughts, record floods, record temperatures etc., etc.
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Yet humans can reduce the effects of AGW

I'm all about cleaning up the planet. Radical changes using doom and gloom scare tactics that bleeds billions of dollars to special interest groups? no thank you

Lets work to go all electric - a 50-75 or even 100 year endeavor maybe. Lets ban single plastics now and foam too for many uses. I'm there on those things, and carbon emissions too, if it makes good sense and can be done right, sure. Lets phase out 2 stroke outboards and go to 4 stroke only on lakes/rivers. I'm for a lot of ideas like that sure

But I see solar farms and windmill farms as wasted investments because of rush rush hurry hurry climate zealots, I do. I see a massive problem coming with no new electric sources and the continued move to ban coal/fossil fuels which generate what, 65% of all electricity ? something bad is going to give there. Things like that the radical save the planet people don't think or care about it seems
 
I'm all about cleaning up the planet. Radical changes using doom and gloom scare tactics that bleeds billions of dollars to special interest groups? no thank you

Lets work to go all electric - a 50-75 or even 100 year endeavor maybe. Lets ban single plastics now and foam too for many uses. I'm there on those things, and carbon emissions too, if it makes good sense and can be done right, sure. Lets phase out 2 stroke outboards and go to 4 stroke only on lakes/rivers. I'm for a lot of ideas like that sure

But I see solar farms and windmill farms as wasted investments because of rush rush hurry hurry climate zealots, I do. I see a massive problem coming with no new electric sources and the continued move to ban coal/fossil fuels which generate what, 65% of all electricity ? something bad is going to give there. Things like that the radical save the planet people don't think or care about it seems
That's certainly an opinion. The entire electric grid should be renewable power at some point


The time to start is now
 
I don't - every drug has a side effect with rare exceptions did you know ?
If you had cancer you would refuse chemotherapy if the doctor said without it you will die?
 
If you had cancer you would refuse chemotherapy if the doctor said without it you will die?

I'm not sure how I would handle cancer

I'm 53, I've had a good life, I'm not afraid of dying anymore. We as a nation are addicted to drugs, I'm very anti-drug. They have their place, but they're also widely abused IMO
 
I'm not sure how I would handle cancer

I'm 53, I've had a good life, I'm not afraid of dying anymore. We as a nation are addicted to drugs, I'm very anti-drug. They have their place, but they're also widely abused IMO
That is utterly ridiculous
 
That's certainly an opinion. The entire electric grid should be renewable power at some point
The time to start is now

I'm all for that too but there is a high cost to windmills/solar as well as environmental impacts of the mining of the metals used in them and disposing of them when they break etc etc
 
That is utterly ridiculous

you can't say that

can you give me the list of recalled drugs that have had horrible long term effects ? how many American's take medication daily, how many take more than 1 pill each day?

the numbers are staggering - we ARE a society that loves their daily drugs and we'll self justify it all ..... but the fact remains, we LOVE our drugs

don't we?
 
But it got cold two weeks ago. That negates climate science entirely forever.
 
you can't say that

can you give me the list of recalled drugs that have had horrible long term effects ? how many American's take medication daily, how many take more than 1 pill each day?

the numbers are staggering - we ARE a society that loves their daily drugs and we'll self justify it all ..... but the fact remains, we LOVE our drugs

don't we?
I sure can say that

It's ridiculous
 
I sure can say that

It's ridiculous

research all the drugs recalled, if you take drugs daily, tell me what they are and lets look at all the side effects, we are a drug nation, we love our drugs

its just facts
 
research all the drugs recalled, if you take drugs daily, tell me what they are and lets look at all the side effects, we are a drug nation, we love our drugs

its just facts
I got it


You don't trust science


Don't drink the water....science determines if it is safe and sometimes science is wrong
 
I got it


You don't trust science


Don't drink the water....science determines if it is safe and sometimes science is wrong

science is wrong - often

nobody should "trust" something that's wrong as often as science is
 
my point is science changes, constantly

we didn't all die from acid rain and hole in ozone, Pluto isn't a planet now, asbestos is deadly, and now we know now having the covid vax doesn't do much at all really


what is the correct temperatures that we need to get the earth to to make everyone say hey, we stopped global warming? I mean c'mon ..... EVERYTHING is blamed on global warming/climate change now and its stupid and insane

we ARE trashing the planet, and I'm all for being being cleaner etc but there is a balance to for humans to have to live. I know we're ticking globally a little warmer, but that's happened over and over and over again throughout history and how fast is happened then vs now we'll never know. We can GUESS, but not factually know

What is the trait of a CO2 molecule that could contribute to global warming?
 
my point is science changes, constantly

we didn't all die from acid rain and hole in ozone, Pluto isn't a planet now, asbestos is deadly, and now we know now having the covid vax doesn't do much at all really


what is the correct temperatures that we need to get the earth to to make everyone say hey, we stopped global warming? I mean c'mon ..... EVERYTHING is blamed on global warming/climate change now and its stupid and insane

we ARE trashing the planet, and I'm all for being being cleaner etc but there is a balance to for humans to have to live. I know we're ticking globally a little warmer, but that's happened over and over and over again throughout history and how fast is happened then vs now we'll never know. We can GUESS, but not factually know

Standard denier talking points.
 
not ignore, but don't blindly trust either

history is littered with examples of how often science gets it wrong. That's ok, that's PART of science, constantly questioning and changing and reviewing etc

Your GENERALIZATIONS don’t mean much as regards a PARTICULAR topic.
 
what's the goal?

seriously - there will always be warm periods, cold periods, dry periods, wet periods, years with few storms, years with many big storms, years with earthquakes and volcanoes and years without them ...

human's cannot control that

See post #98. Over a number of posts, you are doing the normal Gish gallop of denier talking points.
 
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