What indirect effects?
Yes... this is a direct effect of the sun's energy being absorbed by the Earth.
Are a forcing and is another direct effect.
Atmospheric opacity changes are mostly caused by things like changes in aerosols and clouds. And any changes caused by the sun would also be a direct effect.
Yeah... another direct effect.
Nope! The greenhouse effect stays the same. It is just the amount of upward IR that is absorbed by the atmosphere and the amount that escapes out into space that changes. Another direct effect.
You haven't given us even one indirect effect of the sun. Not to mention that you have forgotten all about any feedbacks from the sun that you claim everyone is ignoring.
Wow.
Do you really not understand? And here I thought you have been messing with me all along.
I'm sorry. You claim to understand these sciences better than I do. You obviously don't.
Let's take this one. I said:
"The greenhouse effect increases or decreases with the upward IR changes, right?"
You replied with:
"Nope! The greenhouse effect stays the same. It is just the amount of upward IR that is absorbed by the atmosphere and the amount that escapes out into space that changes. Another direct effect."
So.... If the greenhouse effect is say, 250 W/m^2, the total of H2O, CO2, and other greenhouse gasses combined, and the sun was snuffed out and couldn't heat the surface, would the greenhouse effect still be 250 W/m^2? That seems to be what you are saying.
We usually see the earth energy balance images using numbers in W/m^2. However, the earth system treats it as percentages. If the sun increases by say, 0.2%, all the numbers in the earth system change. The sun's energy to the surface is only about 168 W/m^2. However, the total energy warming the earth surface is around 500 W/m^2. When we see someone claim the sun only increased warming by 0.12 W/m^2 since 1750 like the AR4 does, this is low-balling its effect. This is only 0.07%. However, if you apply that 0.07% to the entire 500 W/nm^2 at the surface, the change is 0.36 W/m^2.
I don't see how anyone can assume the low numbers, considering the average of several reputable solar studies place the increases more like 0.24%. More than three times higher than the IPCC is willing to give credit. Assuming the 0.24%, the actual increase to the earth surface would be even more than the simple math. The linear extrapolation would place the increase at 1.2 W/m^2. I wouldn't expect the change top be exactly linear, but its not going to be very far off.