The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts

[RF667799]

There is the solution! I’m gonna walk around with a cannon!

Why?

 

[renee]

Why? It should be on your person.

Why not? You would prefer that they die begging on their knees vice having a chance to defend themselves and their students.

If I have to carry a gun around on my body, you can bet I would never be a teacher. You seem to care more about the killer than you do about the kids. Ever wonder why we have more mass shootings than other progressive countries?

 

[RF667799]

If I have to carry a gun around on my body, you can bet I would never be a teacher. You seem to care more about the killer than you do about the kids.

You seem to care more about your political position than the kids, but I don't like to judge.

 

[renee]

Why?

Sorry, I keep forgetting that sarcasm is a high form of humor..

 

[Bodi]

But all transactions at an FFL go through a background check. Why should it take longer?

And this is a good thing.

Yup, this is a good thing.

Yes. As I said most guns are not registered.

And you have yet to even remotely show that my analogy was incorrect.

 

[renee]

How many classrooms in your school?

You're just manufacturing scenarios to fit your preconceptions.

Probably about 50 classrooms. If somebody comes into a classroom with the intent to kill people, they don’t give you notification.. you keep fighting for guns

 

[renee]

You seem to care more about your political position than the kids, but I don't like to judge.

My political position would save kids. Yours allows them to be killed.

 

[L88]

It is crazy watching Gun Nuts be fine with people needing a driving license, register their car and even the have to take test to drive, but that just about anybody can stroll in and buy a gun, no license, no registration, no test. It is amazingly hypocritical and the counter argument will be, "golly gee though, huk huk huk... it is a right". No it isn't. It is just what a few guys wrote down 250 years ago. Speach is a Right. Religion (believing what you want) is a Right. Reporting on things and the government is a right. Owning a weapon designed to kill people is not a Right.

To purchase a firearm from a dealer you need to pass a background check and answer truthfully on an ATF 4473 form.
Why aren't people prosecuted for attempting to obtain a gun under false and illegal pretenses?

 

[JMB1911A1]

My political position would save kids. Yours allows them to be killed.

Your position allows the murderer to have freedom to kill as many folks as they want.

 

[renee]

Why do you need to make your arguments personal in nature?

No gun can kill dozens of people within a minute, and very few people are capable of wielding a gun that efficiently except in unusual circumstances.

How long did it take to kill all those school children and young people at clubs?

 

[JMB1911A1]

To purchase a firearm from a dealer you need to pass a background check and answer truthfully on an ATF 4473 form.
Why aren't people prosecuted for attempting to obtain a gun under false and illegal pretenses?

Well, they have been but then they get a blanket 11 year pardon from Daddy.

 

[RF667799]

Sorry, I keep forgetting that sarcasm is a high form of humor..

Sarcasm should make some sort of sense, or it's just vapid.

Nobody suggested you carry around a cannon. Nobody suggested a scenario that would have carrying a cannon around to be a reasonable response.

 

[RF667799]

How long did it take to kill all those school children and young people at clubs?

It's your story. Tell it yourself.

 

[Bodi]

To purchase a firearm from a dealer you need to pass a background check and answer truthfully on an ATF 4473 form.
Why aren't people prosecuted for attempting to obtain a gun under false and illegal pretenses?

Just for pistols.

 

[RF667799]

My political position would save kids. Yours allows them to be killed.

You're begging the question. You've not even got a good start at proving that premise. My position allows children to be defended.

 

[L88]

Well, they have been but then they get a blanket 11 year pardon from Daddy.

on average per year, 4700 felons attempt to obtain a firearm from a firearm dealer. About 50 per year are arrested.

 

[L88]

Just for pistols.

No honey, all firearms require an ATF 4473 and background check.

 

[JMB1911A1]

on average per year, 4700 felons attempt to obtain a firearm from a firearm dealer. About 50 per year are arrested.

True. For some reason the ATF is more interested in shooting dogs and people in their houses than going after criminals.

 

[Bodi]

No honey, all firearms require an ATF 4473 and background check.

Is the big strong man able to put up with silly me for a little longer?

There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing.

NRA-ILA | Gun Registration | Gun Licensing

Less registration and licensing, less crime. There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing. Yet, since 1991, when violent crime hit an all-time high, total violent crime and murder...

www.nraila.org

 

[L88]

Is the big strong man able to put up with silly me for a little longer?

There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing.

NRA-ILA | Gun Registration | Gun Licensing

Less registration and licensing, less crime. There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing. Yet, since 1991, when violent crime hit an all-time high, total violent crime and murder...

www.nraila.org

Every gun purchase from a dealer is required to have a background check.
Every gun purchase requires the purchaser to fill out an ATF 4473

 

[Bodi]

Every gun purchase from a dealer is required to have a background check.
Every gun purchase requires the purchaser to fill out an ATF 4473

I just showed that you are wrong.

 

[JMB1911A1]

Is the big strong man able to put up with silly me for a little longer?

There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing.

NRA-ILA | Gun Registration | Gun Licensing

Less registration and licensing, less crime. There is no universal, national gun registry or federal license required to own a gun, and the vast majority of states don’t require registration or licensing. Yet, since 1991, when violent crime hit an all-time high, total violent crime and murder...

www.nraila.org

And this is a good thing. From your link:

“When the Brady Campaign, a gun control group, was known by one of its other names, it said that registration should be the final step before banning handguns.”

 

[L88]

I just showed that you are wrong.

Little dear, you are confusing registration with background checks

Firearm background checks: Explained

The checks are designed to stop people who aren't legally allowed to buy a gun, but gaps in the laws remain.

usafacts.org

 

[L88]

one more time sweetie,

When a person tries to buy a firearm, the seller, known as a Federal Firearms Licensee (FFL), contacts NICS electronically or by phone. The prospective buyer fills out the ATF form, and the FFL relays that information to the NICS. The NICS staff performs a background check on the buyer. That background check verifies the buyer does not have a criminal record or isn't otherwise ineligible to purchase or own a firearm. Since launching in 1998, more than 300 million checks have been done, leading to more than 1.5 million denials.

https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/more-fbi-services-and-information/nics

 

[JMB1911A1]

I just showed that you are wrong.

And you are wrong. All firearms, no matter the configuration, sold by an FFL require a 4473 and a background check.