(The Hill) Trump announces 90-day extension for Mexico tariff talks

[devildavid]

LOL, so what? Those are all tactics in a negotiation; perhaps AFTER he said that Mexico granted concession or two to keep him in the process. Maybe he even said it to get Mexico to urge their negotiator back to the table.

Mexico is exempted from his final deadline. This is capitulation, not negotiation. Trumps word is never good on anything he claims is the final word. Maybe he is a bluffer and bullshitter and there are no actual deals, just tariffs that will eventually hurt the American economy and those with little means to absorb the costs of them. Tariffs only fund the government, they don’t make businesses or consumers more wealthy or able to afford rising costs that tariffs bring to American businesses and American consumers. They are a tax that penalizes Americans for consuming enough to give Trump the leverage he needed to force tariffs on importing countries. Now it will be too costly to consume as much and the US will lose the leverage it had and Trump will no longer have a position of strength in extorting countries to do his bidding. It is an ultimately self defeating strategy for America.

 

[RaleBulgarian]

As dumb as it is - you're entitled to an opinion.

As dumb as your response is - you’re entitled to post it.

 

[L88]

They actually yielded it only for very limited and specific situations. Trump then declares that we are in this situation whether or not it is true. And the weak Republicans bow to him and let him declare that every day is a state of emergency so that he can always invoke emergency powers. It is all based on whatever Trump declares without reason or evidence.

Same as Biden did. Same as Obama did.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Foreign leaders fear Trump like I fear getting beat to death with whipped cream.

 

[devildavid]

Same as Biden did. Same as Obama did.

They didn’t do the same.

 

[CSharp]

Same as Biden did. Same as Obama did.

If they did, and you certainly have not demonstrated it, I'd be against it too.

 

[NuffSaid]

Hardly TACO - he's making progress and concedes a little more time to work with Mexico. The last thing a negotiator wants is to quit negotiating,

When one negotiates they typically don’t announce some arbitrary percentage or dollar value with a cutoff date then at the last moment extend the cutoff.

 

[NuffSaid]

Congress yielded their power for trade and tariffs long ago.
That's actually the reason for this turmoil.

They can and should take back the power.
But this feckless band of cowards are afraid of Trump.

 

[Bullseye]

When one negotiates they typically don’t announce some arbitrary percentage or dollar value with a cutoff date then at the last moment extend the cutoff.

Or some times they do.

 

[Bullseye]

As dumb as your response is - you’re entitled to post it.

Couldn't even come up with an original response, eh?

 

[Chomsky]

Congress delegates WAY too much to the executive branch, due in part because they keep putting themselves into a tribal logjam. IMHO treaties should be put to the senate for ratification.

And the US has transitioned WAY too much to executive level agreements - which run the risk of, as you point out, being 'nothing binding'.

There absolutely has to be a balance between allowing for flexibility and responsiveness, vs. long term binding commitments. But it's also created a schizophrenic foreign policy for the US when we enter into agreements that don't have consensus approval and could NEVER pass through congress, then modify or withdraw from them the next administration.

Agree 100%.

 

[Chomsky]

Congress yielded their power for trade and tariffs long ago.
That's actually the reason for this turmoil.

Idiots.

 

[Chomsky]

There is no agreement and NO negotiations at present despite Carney's hint that they are.

Canada is moving to counter tariff. We were the first and hardest hit over a fake cause (Fentanyl flows north to south) and it appears Carney & co are happy to hurt back.

Based on the weeping and gnashing of teeth we're in for a real cry baby show from governors and lessor nobodies....and of course the crybaby-in-chief.

(The passingf of the August 1st deadline is significant - Carney is calling Trump's bluff).

Canadians are in a mood......and no it won't change if Trump suddenly disappears. Trump's slap is a last straw. The talk shows are filled with resentments and reminders of all the slights over the years.

Where we have been envied friends over decades and decades, Trump has poisoned the relationship; no one is bragging on the "great friendship" anymore.

Trump has erred in thinking our politeness is weakness.

I would hope Canucks have the guts to stand up to Trump.

 

[Chomsky]

I would hope Canucks have the guts to stand up to Trump. But, I'm not hopeful.

 

[Chomsky]

Isn't this interesting.

I read the article and see no specificity in "non-tariff trade barriers". However it appears Mexico is keeping their retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods.

So what is it you believe was "won"?

 

[Fearandloathing]

What do you think is being "negotiated"? They need to stop being mean and nasty to the United States?

Define "mean and nasty"

They do not appear to be traditional international terms, so what is Canada doing that is hurting the US?

BESIDES the Rapist in chief's own ego issues.

Like it or not, he started this war.

And what its really about is that Canadians laughed out loud when he said we could be the 51st state and laughed at his ignorance.

That's his only issue. Oh, yeah, and former prime minister Trudeau saying he's not that tough.


He isn't. He's the weakest president of my lifetime. Capable of being so distracted by personal issues we can rob you ****ing blind!!!!!!

 

[Fearandloathing]

I would hope Canucks have the guts to stand up to Trump.

Oh you can count on it!

Right now Carney is being pressured to hit back. The ten premiers have been in tele conference about just how to go about it.

Unfortunately its going to hit America's pocket books, but we have no other alternative.

 

[Chomsky]

Oh you can count on it!

Right now Carney is being pressured to hit back. The ten premiers have been in tele conference about just how to go about it.

Unfortunately its going to hit America's pocket books, but we have no other alternative.

Thanks for the insight.

 

[NuffSaid]

Or some times they do.

Only Trump

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Couldn't even come up with an original response, eh?

And you think you were being original?

 

[L88]

They didn’t do the same.

Yes, they did. It just gets amped up every presidency because Congress forfeited its power.

 

[L88]

If they did, and you certainly have not demonstrated it, I'd be against it too.

If you understood what has been happening, especially since 9/11, you would understand.

 

[L88]

They can and should take back the power.
But this feckless band of cowards are afraid of Trump.

Not really. Every Congress since Bush 2 has wanted their President to have the powers of a King.

 

[CSharp]

If you understood what has been happening, especially since 9/11, you would understand.

Please, oh wise one, explain it to me

 

[L88]

Please, oh wise one, explain it to me

My wording was quite rude. My apologies.
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Congress, over time, has yielded its powers to the President, giving the President Unitary Power on critical issues. Such military engagement and trade.
It's desirable for the party in power in Congress at the time if the President is of the same party. But it has lasting effects and is dangerous in the case of an authoritarian-driven President.
Biden has sent military into Syria and Africa with a combat engagement under the same reasons Trump OK'd the bombing in Iran.
Same Biden with tariffs and trade
Same for Obama, drone strikes, reengagement in Iraq, upping engagement in Afghanistan, and military action in Libya.
Congress needs to call back it's powers that it's given to the President over time. The next or future President could be worse than Trump.