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The good news of Gods kingdom.

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We all know this system of things is not what God wanted--The rebels in Eden caused it.
But soon Gods kingdom comes to the earth--the only hope left for mankind.
Jesus showed us what Gods kingdom rule will do for mankind. Its a cure all-- Life everlasting for those who are true followers of Jesus now by living to do Gods will( Matt 7:21)--- Every motive of mankind towards one another will be out of love first and foremost. All will be united as one under Our king Jesus and God-Jehovah. The wolf will reside with the lamb( Harmony( Isaiah 11:6) Abundance of food for all--God only rested creating--He has wonderful new and exciting things in store for obedient mankind. God doesn't just think of himself--He created variety in everything he created. God created mortals to know only good--he is right--knowing good and bad--sucks. To have life everlasting---- one must take in knowledge and get to know Jehovah and Jesus--Jesus said it meant eternal life-John 17:1-6.
144,000( numbered) -are bought from the earth-Rev 14:3

Jesus taught--Blessed( happy) are the meek( mild tempered) for they ( great crowd of other sheep which no man can number) will inherit the earth--Earth will become a paradise--no satan influences= the new earth--a new system of things--Gods kingdom in control forever-Daniel 2:44)-- we are all invited--we must do our part.
 
I don't really want to live in anybody's kingdom. We did right by getting rid of monarchies. A nation and a people should not belong to a ruler, it should belong to the people. The arrival of an immortal monarch upon whose power there are no checks and against whom there can be no rebellion, even in one's mind, who will rule us with our without our consent... that sounds like really bad news to me. It sounds completely antithetical to everything Americans stand for.
 
Paschendale said:
I don't really want to live in anybody's kingdom. We did right by getting rid of monarchies. A nation and a people should not belong to a ruler, it should belong to the people. The arrival of an immortal monarch upon whose power there are no checks and against whom there can be no rebellion, even in one's mind, who will rule us with our without our consent... that sounds like really bad news to me. It sounds completely antithetical to everything Americans stand for.
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The sad reality of every govt on earth--rev 16= Daniel 2:44--a kingdom = govt, armies, supporters.--mislead to stand in opposition to God at Har-mageddon.
 
kjw47 said:
Its a good topic. One needs to be prepared at all times for the arrival of Gods kingdom.
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and the zombie apocalypse, alien attacks, wizards, warlocks, witches, ghosts, the undead, mummies, frankenstein monsters, giant subterranean killer worms, Mothra, Godzilla, .........
 
Dragonfly said:
and the zombie apocalypse, alien attacks, wizards, warlocks, witches, ghosts, the undead, mummies, frankenstein monsters, giant subterranean killer worms, Mothra, Godzilla, .........
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The zombie apocalypse. I choose that one to worry about.
 
kjw47 said:
Its a good topic. One needs to be prepared at all times for the arrival of Gods kingdom.
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Why prepare for something that will never take place?
 
Dragonfly said:
and the zombie apocalypse, alien attacks, wizards, warlocks, witches, ghosts, the undead, mummies, frankenstein monsters, giant subterranean killer worms, Mothra, Godzilla, .........
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You have free will--choose wisely.
 
zyzygy said:
Why prepare for something that will never take place?
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Are you kidding--its mankinds only hope---those mislead into believing in capitolism, forgot to see this coming

100 years-prices double
50 years prices double
25 years prices double
12 1/2 years prices double--
6 1/4( we are here) years-prices double
next= disaster.---- this is what they refer to as growth.

The rich have too much and want more.
 
kjw47 said:
You have free will--choose wisely.
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But you're saying that we don't. We only have the choice to submit to an all-powerful ruler or not. That's not free will. That means we get to live our lives as this king says we do, or be forced to live that way through violence. That's not free will at all. That's why this would be terrible news. It would be the coming of unending slavery. Submit or be whipped into submission.

Don't get me wrong, I like your distaste for capitalism. But adopting a theocracy under a god-king would be even worse. I don't want to live in that kingdom. I want freedom.
 
kjw47 said:
Are you kidding--its mankinds only hope---those mislead into believing in capitolism, forgot to see this coming

100 years-prices double
50 years prices double
25 years prices double
12 1/2 years prices double--
6 1/4( we are here) years-prices double
next= disaster.---- this is what they refer to as growth.

The rich have too much and want more.
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What does that have to do with the stories in the bible?
 
Paschendale said:
But you're saying that we don't. We only have the choice to submit to an all-powerful ruler or not. That's not free will. That means we get to live our lives as this king says we do, or be forced to live that way through violence. That's not free will at all. That's why this would be terrible news. It would be the coming of unending slavery. Submit or be whipped into submission.

Don't get me wrong, I like your distaste for capitalism. But adopting a theocracy under a god-king would be even worse. I don't want to live in that kingdom. I want freedom.
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The choice is yours. You don't have to live in it if you don't want to.

You'll have your "freedom" alright. You'll be out of the picture. :lol:


You may be reduced to nothing (the ultimate in freedom, huh?).....or, you end up someplace else.

No one knows what exactly happens to you at that point. One thing we know for sure..... at that point, it wouldn't be a democracy. You go where you'll told to go. Period.


Kickin', pleadin', and screamin' wouldn't make any difference either. You've made your choice.
 
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kjw47 said:
We all know this system of things is not what God wanted--The rebels in Eden caused it.
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Really?

God's omnipotent, so he gave Adam and Eve free will. If he weren't omnipotent then how would he be able to do this?

God's omniscient, so he knew exactly what Adam and Eve were going to do with that free will.

If what they did was not what God wanted, and he knew that they would do it, why give them free will? In other words, he wanted them to do what they did. He had the means to ensure they didn't, knowing that they would, but he chose to let them do it anyway. That makes him accessory to the fall, doesn't it?
 
kjw47 said:
We all know this system of things is not what God wanted--The rebels in Eden caused it.
But soon Gods kingdom comes to the earth--the only hope left for mankind.
Jesus showed us what Gods kingdom rule will do for mankind. Its a cure all-- Life everlasting for those who are true followers of Jesus now by living to do Gods will( Matt 7:21)--- Every motive of mankind towards one another will be out of love first and foremost. All will be united as one under Our king Jesus and God-Jehovah. The wolf will reside with the lamb( Harmony( Isaiah 11:6) Abundance of food for all--God only rested creating--He has wonderful new and exciting things in store for obedient mankind. God doesn't just think of himself--He created variety in everything he created. God created mortals to know only good--he is right--knowing good and bad--sucks. To have life everlasting---- one must take in knowledge and get to know Jehovah and Jesus--Jesus said it meant eternal life-John 17:1-6.
144,000( numbered) -are bought from the earth-Rev 14:3

Jesus taught--Blessed( happy) are the meek( mild tempered) for they ( great crowd of other sheep which no man can number) will inherit the earth--Earth will become a paradise--no satan influences= the new earth--a new system of things--Gods kingdom in control forever-Daniel 2:44)-- we are all invited--we must do our part.
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good news every one you can be a slave to kjw47s religion or in to the fire you go

that's not sick and evil at all
 
tosca1 said:
The choice is yours. You don't have to live in it if you don't want to.

You'll have your "freedom" alright. You'll be out of the picture. :lol:


You may be reduced to nothing (the ultimate in freedom, huh?).....or, you end up someplace else.

No one knows what exactly happens to you at that point. One thing we know for sure..... at that point, it wouldn't be a democracy. You go where you'll told to go. Period.


Kickin', pleadin', and screamin' wouldn't make any difference either. You've made your choice.
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how are you not evil?
 
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The choice is yours. You don't have to live in it if you don't want to.

You'll have your "freedom" alright. You'll be out of the picture.


You may be reduced to nothing (the ultimate in freedom, huh?).....or, you end up someplace else.

No one knows what exactly happens to you at that point. One thing we know for sure..... at that point, it wouldn't be a democracy. You go where you'll told to go. Period.


Kickin', pleadin', and screamin' wouldn't make any difference either. You've made your choice.

blarg said:
how are you not evil?
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What?

The idea of choosing the path which way to go....and living the consequence of that choice,
that concept doesn't look familiar to you?

Hello?

If you're in a democratic society, YOU'RE LIVING IT! :doh

What do you think of our justice system? The law is stipulated. You go against the law, you're sent away to prison.
AT THAT POINT, who cares whether you want to go to prison or not....you've made the choice! You're booted out of society!

Kickin' and pleadin' and screamin' wouldn't make any difference, either.


Talk about blinders! :lol:
 
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tosca1 said:
What?

The idea of choosing the path which way to go....and living the consequence of that choice,
that concept doesn't look familiar to you?

Hello?

If you're in a democratic society, YOU'RE LIVING IT! :doh

What do you think of our justice system? The law is stipulated. You go against the law, you're sent away to prison.
AT THAT POINT, who cares whether you want to go to prison or not....you've made the choice! You're booted out of society!

Kickin' and pleadin' and screamin' wouldn't make any difference, either.


Talk about blinders! :lol:
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some 1 gleefully tells you to join them or die how are they not evil?
 
kjw47 said:
Its a good topic. One needs to be prepared at all times for the arrival of Gods kingdom.
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Yeah? And just how do we go about getting ready for about the one trillionth time! He ain't coming and we ain't going.
 
tosca1 said:
Who said that?

What do you mean by, "die?"
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just about every believer with a join us or gods going to punish you attitude

most common forms are eternal suffering or complete death

they not only believe in that but support the god

monsters all of em
 
tosca1 said:
The choice is yours. You don't have to live in it if you don't want to.

You'll have your "freedom" alright. You'll be out of the picture. :lol:

You may be reduced to nothing (the ultimate in freedom, huh?).....or, you end up someplace else.

No one knows what exactly happens to you at that point. One thing we know for sure..... at that point, it wouldn't be a democracy. You go where you'll told to go. Period.

Kickin', pleadin', and screamin' wouldn't make any difference either. You've made your choice.
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Why doesn't that horrify you? Why don't you kick, plead, and scream? Why doesn't endless slavery make you really angry?
 
blarg said:
just about every believer with a join us or gods going to punish you attitude

most common forms are eternal suffering or complete death

they not only believe in that but support the god

monsters all of em
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If you're an atheist, don't you believe that there's nothing after death? That once you're dead, you're dead?

So why does it bother you when Christians only repeat what you believe anyway?
 
Paschendale said:
Why doesn't that horrify you? Why don't you kick, plead, and scream? Why doesn't endless slavery make you really angry?
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Endless slavery? :lol:

You don't make any sense.
 
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