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The futility of Prayer

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Prayer is simply another of the controls of wielded by religions.

Oh, you can find thousands of words making unfounded and unprovable claims for prayer, but none of them has ever been been scientifically proven. Miracles at Lourdes? Yah, right. Mass hysteria more like.

In fact, there have been studies on the efficacy of prayer. A religious group did one and lo and behold, hosannas, praise de lawd, jesus is king...prayer works!!!

A group of scientists duplicated the study but double-blind and controlled...well, the faithful were not amused. Absolutely no effect from prayer...well, that is not quite true. Of the people who knew they were being prayed for, many got worse; Power of prayer flunks an unusual test - Health - Heart health | NBC News

Lets face if folks, if prayer worked, there'd be no world hunger, limbs would grow back, cancer would be unknown, rape and pedophilia would cease to exist, war would be long since extinct.

There is no god to pray to and intercede for you and every church in the world which runs a hospital or any medical facility whatsoever is admitting this. For if prayer worked, there'd be no need for hospitals, doctors, nurses.
 
At least let the holidays pass before you wheel back into the bitter atheist routine.
 
Van Basten said:
At least let the holidays pass before you wheel back into the bitter atheist routine.
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First I am not bitter in the least, religious beliefs are merely amusing and fun to criticize. Second they are not my holidays. I have holidays when I feel like it, not according to some antiquated superstitions adopted from older pagan myths.
 
Realitywins said:
First I am not bitter in the least, religious beliefs are merely amusing and fun to criticize. Second they are not my holidays. I have holidays when I feel like it, not according to some antiquated superstitions adopted from older pagan myths.
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Your post says otherwise. What you're trying to prove I don't know, but good luck with that.
 
Van Basten said:
Your post says otherwise. What you're trying to prove I don't know, but good luck with that.
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If you don't like what you see, if it produces fear and confusion in your mind, absent yourself.
 
Realitywins said:
Prayer is simply another of the controls of wielded by religions.

Oh, you can find thousands of words making unfounded and unprovable claims for prayer, but none of them has ever been been scientifically proven. Miracles at Lourdes? Yah, right. Mass hysteria more like.

In fact, there have been studies on the efficacy of prayer. A religious group did one and lo and behold, hosannas, praise de lawd, jesus is king...prayer works!!!

A group of scientists duplicated the study but double-blind and controlled...well, the faithful were not amused. Absolutely no effect from prayer...well, that is not quite true. Of the people who knew they were being prayed for, many got worse; Power of prayer flunks an unusual test - Health - Heart health | NBC News

Lets face if folks, if prayer worked, there'd be no world hunger, limbs would grow back, cancer would be unknown, rape and pedophilia would cease to exist, war would be long since extinct.

There is no god to pray to and intercede for you and every church in the world which runs a hospital or any medical facility whatsoever is admitting this. For if prayer worked, there'd be no need for hospitals, doctors, nurses.
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Whatever.

Placebos work. Consider prayer a placebo. Or don't. What you believe is of very little consequence to anyone else.
 
MaggieD said:
Whatever.

Placebos work. Consider prayer a placebo. Or don't. What you believe is of very little consequence to anyone else.
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Prayer to me (as someone who is non-religious) is just a thing where I talk to myself. That's about it.

It doesn't change anything but I don't care.
 
Realitywins said:
First I am not bitter in the least, religious beliefs are merely amusing and fun to criticize. Second they are not my holidays. I have holidays when I feel like it, not according to some antiquated superstitions adopted from older pagan myths.
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But you take the time to criticize those who do.

If you were as self assured as you sound you wouldn't have gone out of your way to blather on about people who do believe in prayer.

I wonder where the antagonism comes from
 
Fearandloathing said:
But you take the time to criticize those who do.

If you were as self assured as you sound you wouldn't have gone out of your way to blather on about people who do believe in prayer.

I wonder where the antagonism comes from
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I have always enjoyed poking at bee's nests. ;)
 
The life of an atheist seems a great show at superiority in a vain attempt to cover an inferiority complex.
 
LittleNipper said:
The life of an atheist seems a great show at superiority in a vain attempt to cover an inferiority complex.
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Not all atheists. We are mixed bunch. I don't know any of that description.
 
Realitywins said:
If we felt inferior, we'd be praying.:lamo
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Not really. It takes a very humble person to pray honestly. Atheists are far too busy propping up a false facade of strength. To be humble for them would be a show of weakness --- the very last thing in the world they ever want to do.
 
LittleNipper said:
Not really. It takes a very humble person to pray honestly. Atheists are far too busy propping up a false facade of strength. To be humble for them would be a show of weakness --- the very last thing in the world they ever want to do.
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That sounds like a very arrogant thing for you to say.
 
LittleNipper said:
Not really. It takes a very humble person to pray honestly. Atheists are far too busy propping up a false facade of strength. To be humble for them would be a show of weakness --- the very last thing in the world they ever want to do.
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It takes a very stupid person to pray to nothing. Especially when it is proven every day it doesn't work and it doesn't work because there is nothing to make it work. Read the OP for all the proof needed.
 
I don't pray.
I don't have a problem with people who pray.

Maybe stop ****ting all over lifestyles you don't agree with ?
 
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