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The Fourteenth Amendment is blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL - it is being used to destroy our Nation

Contumacious said:
The Fourteenth Amendemnt is being used by the Socialist Demon Rats and those who hate the US to destroy the union by , inter alia, permitting illegal rampant immigration and reducing the authority of the States

How can the 14A be legit when President Andrew Johnson expressed doubt that the amendment was legitimate because of the Reconstruction process put in place to force and coerce the defeated southern states into ratifying it.

In the face of opposition to the Amendment, Congress passed the first Reconstruction Act over President Johnson’s veto. Despite having sent the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments to the Southern states, >>>>>>>Congress declared that no legal government existed there and divided the South into military districts. Martial law was declared even though the war was already over. Congress also disenfranchised millions of white Southern voters. No Southern state would be allowed seats in Congress, the Radicals decreed, absent ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment. <<<<<<<<As Attorney Douglas H. Bryant has asked, “Yet what good is ratification by a government that is not legally recognized and entitled to representation in Congress? And if ratification by a congressionally unrecognized state government is allowed, why can’t an unrecognized state government reject an amendment?
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Time to Topple the Fourteenth Amendment - Chronicles

The Fourteenth Amendment is not a beatific and integral part of some mythical “Second Founding.” Indeed, it undermines republican government.
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Lursa said:
That's not the issue. The issue is...what does the Constitution say? We stick to the Const and if it should be changed, we do it properly. Not by some wannabe king's edict...we ALL know that's the opposite of what the Founding Fathers and later crafters of the Const wanted...right? Yes or no?

And if you dont like it...tell Congress and explain a better option and its pros and cons...and let them hash it out, present it to the country, and vote to change it. Did you vote in this forum poll? Let it all out. ;)

Lordy, is this new info for you, missed it in civics class? Your posts run off of pure feelings, run amok.
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Lursa said:
Why the new thread? You've already been shown you're wrong in other threads.
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Beginning with post #2 up to and including yours I have shown beyond reasonable doubt that the 14A is blatantly Unconstitutional
 
Hari Seldon said:
He doesn't like due process and citizenship for anyone other than white South Africans. Therefore it's unconstitutional.
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Maybe if he stamps his foot and shakes his fist at the sky, "it will make it all better" ;)
 
Lursa said:
And unicorns shit rainbows 🤣
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Thank you for proving my point.

You could have stated:

The 14 A is Constitutional because Northerners had the right to use martial Law to force Southerners to adopt an Amendment which had nothing to do with slavery because ....................>>>
 
BirdinHand said:
With no electoral representation and no votes.

Sort of sucks for you 🤷‍♀️

I’d be bitter also.

No wonder why you don’t seem to like the Constitution
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So I must either like the 14A or I don't like Constitution ?

I don't like the 14A because it was NEVER Constitutionally adopted

Plain and Simple
 
Contumacious said:
The Fourteenth Amendemnt is being used by the Socialist Demon Rats and those who hate the US to destroy the union by , inter alia, permitting illegal rampant immigration and reducing the authority of the States

How can the 14A be legit when President Andrew Johnson expressed doubt that the amendment was legitimate because of the Reconstruction process put in place to force and coerce the defeated southern states into ratifying it.

In the face of opposition to the Amendment, Congress passed the first Reconstruction Act over President Johnson’s veto. Despite having sent the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments to the Southern states, >>>>>>>Congress declared that no legal government existed there and divided the South into military districts. Martial law was declared even though the war was already over. Congress also disenfranchised millions of white Southern voters. No Southern state would be allowed seats in Congress, the Radicals decreed, absent ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment. <<<<<<<<As Attorney Douglas H. Bryant has asked, “Yet what good is ratification by a government that is not legally recognized and entitled to representation in Congress? And if ratification by a congressionally unrecognized state government is allowed, why can’t an unrecognized state government reject an amendment?
chroniclesmagazine.org

Time to Topple the Fourteenth Amendment - Chronicles

The Fourteenth Amendment is not a beatific and integral part of some mythical “Second Founding.” Indeed, it undermines republican government.
chroniclesmagazine.org chroniclesmagazine.org
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:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 
Phys251 said:
Interesting that you'd make a liberal argument after starting a far-right OP.
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I must accept that I cannot change, have the courage to change what I can, and hope to continue to find wisdom in discerning the difference.
 
Contumacious said:
NOPE


The Duty to support and defend the Constitution against ALL enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC
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TACO may not know it's his duty to uphold the constitution (I still can't believe he said that), but he took an oath to do so.
 
Contumacious said:
You do know that Article II , Section 3 only requires that President Trump faithfully execute those laws which in his opinion are Constitutional


Article II, Section 3:

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

The Constitution provides that the President shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed . . . .
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Contumacious said:
So I must either like the 14A or I don't like Constitution ?

I don't like the 14A because it was NEVER Constitutionally adopted

Plain and Simple
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
Loulit01 said:
TACO may not know it's his duty to uphold the constitution (I still can't believe he said that), but he took an oath to do so.
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Remember, he didn't put his hand on the bible. It doesn't count according to crazy righties.
 
BirdinHand said:
United States v. foster
Coleman v Miller

🤷‍♀️

Sorry, but no one cares if you don’t like it.


go ahead and try to repeal it. Good luck.
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If the Roberts Court refuses to reverse

United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898)​

then my position will acquire millions of adherents/
 
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