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The Fourteenth Amendment is blatantly UNCONSTITUTIONAL - it is being used to destroy our Nation

Phys251 said:
You do know that a president doesn't unilaterally amend the Constitution, right? ...right??
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This one has special authority. He won the electoral college and a plurality of cast ballots so he does as he pleases.

Usually Phys, you are more on the ball than this. ;)
 
Contumacious said:
The Fourteenth Amendemnt is being used by the Socialist Demon Rats and those who hate the US to destroy the union by , inter alia, permitting illegal rampant immigration and reducing the authority of the States

How can the 14A be legit when President Andrew Johnson expressed doubt that the amendment was legitimate because of the Reconstruction process put in place to force and coerce the defeated southern states into ratifying it.

In the face of opposition to the Amendment, Congress passed the first Reconstruction Act over President Johnson’s veto. Despite having sent the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments to the Southern states, >>>>>>>Congress declared that no legal government existed there and divided the South into military districts. Martial law was declared even though the war was already over. Congress also disenfranchised millions of white Southern voters. No Southern state would be allowed seats in Congress, the Radicals decreed, absent ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment. <<<<<<<<As Attorney Douglas H. Bryant has asked, “Yet what good is ratification by a government that is not legally recognized and entitled to representation in Congress? And if ratification by a congressionally unrecognized state government is allowed, why can’t an unrecognized state government reject an amendment?
chroniclesmagazine.org

Time to Topple the Fourteenth Amendment - Chronicles

The Fourteenth Amendment is not a beatific and integral part of some mythical “Second Founding.” Indeed, it undermines republican government.
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Excuse me if I fail to accept your assessment of the legal status voted on, passed by congress and upheld by the supreme court...several DECADES ago. Especially since a few thousand legal scholars have gone before you.
 
Contumacious said:
You do know that Article II , Section 3 only requires that President Trump faithfully execute those laws which in his opinion are Constitutional


Article II, Section 3:

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

The Constitution provides that the President shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed . . . .
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Where's the part where you have to pay the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of shit liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat millions to have him listen to you?
 
BirdinHand said:
THEY FOUGHT A CIVIL WAR AGAINST THIS NATION.

A condition of their acceptance back into the fold was no longer being god damned slave owning bastards.

I’m sorry you don’t like that. When you secede, and then a god damned civil war is fought and you lose, there are consequences.


Go for a repeal.

Please.

I will be over here waiting for this banner to be taken up on a large basis. In fact, I think it should become a calling card for MAGAs.
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Really?

My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy Slavery. >>>>>>If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it, <<<<<<<<<and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that.

A Lincoln

Letter in Reply to Horace Greeley on Slavery and the Union—The Restoration of the Union the Paramount Object | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu www.presidency.ucsb.edu
 
Xilnik said:
Well, he keeps trying to handle it that way, but the Judicial Branch keeps telling him he has to actually uphold the Constitution
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NO, he is being told to adhere to THEIR CASE LAW ------ NOT to The Constitution
 
Hari Seldon said:
Where's the part where you have to pay the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of shit liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat millions to have him listen to you?
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Just hoping and praying

whatever we can do to prevent the US
from becoming Somalia West
 
Contumacious said:
Really?

My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy Slavery. >>>>>>If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it, <<<<<<<<<and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that.

A Lincoln

Letter in Reply to Horace Greeley on Slavery and the Union—The Restoration of the Union the Paramount Object | The American Presidency Project

www.presidency.ucsb.edu www.presidency.ucsb.edu
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Gosh, you used a really big font and bold letters, that must make this post super special?

😂
🤷‍♀️
 
BirdinHand said:
Gosh, you used a really big font and bold letters, that must make this post super special?

😂
🤷‍♀️
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I was hoping that you would ADMIT that your impression that

"A condition of their acceptance back into the fold was no longer being god damned slave owning bastards" does not have a foundation in reality !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Contumacious said:
I was hoping that you would ADMIT that your impression that

"A condition of their acceptance back into the fold was no longer being god damned slave owning bastards" does not have a foundation in reality !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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You need to calm down. You're being too loud.
 
Grand Mal said:
You obviously don't have any clue what 'unconstitutional' means if you say part of the constitution is unconstitutional.
What an enormous failure of a thread. Are you sure you belong here?
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Are there any Russian forums where he'd be more at home?
 
SavannahMann said:
My friends. These are the same people howling when the Courts say No to the nonsense that they spout.
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HUH?

The "Courts" or the leftist politicians in black robes ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
Phys251 said:
Absolutely irrelevant to the discussion. The 14th is as much a part of the Constitution as is the 2nd. Deal with it.
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Once they understand that the 14A is an existential threat they will have to depend on the 2A
 
Old 'N Chill said:
Are there any Russian forums where he'd be more at home?
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Thank you for the suggestion

I am already a member of the Russki website which is based on the movie "Anastasia Does Moscow",
 
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Contumacious said:
The Fourteenth Amendemnt is being used by the Socialist Demon Rats and those who hate the US to destroy the union by , inter alia, permitting illegal rampant immigration and reducing the authority of the States

How can the 14A be legit when President Andrew Johnson expressed doubt that the amendment was legitimate because of the Reconstruction process put in place to force and coerce the defeated southern states into ratifying it.

In the face of opposition to the Amendment, Congress passed the first Reconstruction Act over President Johnson’s veto. Despite having sent the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amendments to the Southern states, >>>>>>>Congress declared that no legal government existed there and divided the South into military districts. Martial law was declared even though the war was already over. Congress also disenfranchised millions of white Southern voters. No Southern state would be allowed seats in Congress, the Radicals decreed, absent ratification of the Fourteenth Amendment. <<<<<<<<As Attorney Douglas H. Bryant has asked, “Yet what good is ratification by a government that is not legally recognized and entitled to representation in Congress? And if ratification by a congressionally unrecognized state government is allowed, why can’t an unrecognized state government reject an amendment?
chroniclesmagazine.org

Time to Topple the Fourteenth Amendment - Chronicles

The Fourteenth Amendment is not a beatific and integral part of some mythical “Second Founding.” Indeed, it undermines republican government.
chroniclesmagazine.org chroniclesmagazine.org
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Why the new thread? You've already been shown you're wrong in other threads.
 
Contumacious said:
You do know that Article II , Section 3 only requires that President Trump faithfully execute those laws which in his opinion are Constitutional
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You're ignoring the semi-colons.
 
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