The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse issued an Ultimatum to Putin! (1 Viewer)

[Juin]

Just correcting the record.

Do facts bither you?

It seems to me like the issue you won't let go is a matter for Republicans. If Reagan wants toss and turn in his grave, that's up to him. But I believe that is more a wish of his detractors than who he was. You forget what Reagan was aware of: he was the MAGA of his time

 

[NolanVoyd]

It seems to me like the issue you won't let go is a matter for Republicans.

Its an issue for everyone who cares about facts and ligical consistency.

. You forget what Reagan was aware of: he was the MAGA of his time

No he wasnt, not even close.

And Reagans positions on most things were the opposite of MAGA's.

 

[Logophile]

How about you criticize the scumbag who started the war. How about you tell the Russians to get the hell out of Ukraine?

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Lol. There's plenty of folks like you that have done just that, criticized and told the Russians to get out. Has it done any good?? Nope. And it won't.

Until you're willing to risk American lives in this mess and put boots on the ground, it's all empty threats. Same with the Europeans. Are they willing to do that?? Not so far. Ukraine is running out of living soldiers. And of those still walking, an awful lot of em are deserting the front line. So negotiation looks like a better way to salvage Ukraine, which is what the Trump Administration is working on

 

[Fledermaus]

Sorry that you've bought into that simplistic version

Well they also invaded back in 2014 as well.

 

[Fledermaus]

I know more about it than you apparently

Your posts paint a different picture.

 

[Roadvirus]

Putin is a lot of things but he's not dumb.

His military strategies to date suggest otherwise.

 

[Roadvirus]

Zelensky isn't paying the price. He's not even footing the bill. The men he's kidnapping and killing have paid the price, and those he's forced on the front line are deserting. They don't care about foreign cheerleaders with no skin in the game. Its a proxy war for people who don't have to fight it and can make all kinds of grand justifications on so called principle. But that's the real irony. Because if they had any principles at all, they'd either put their own lives on the line or want to save lives through negotiation

Nothing but Russian talking points

 

[Roadvirus]

All we really know for a fact is that Zelensky won't hold an election

Hard to hold elections when cities are being threatened every day with explosive-carrying drones & cruise missiles.

 

[Fledermaus]

You don't even know that's true. We hear all kinds of bs. Remember the pipeline?? Turns out Ukraine cut it. All we really know for a fact is that Zelensky won't hold an election

And?

You do know why.

Right?

 

[Juin]

So Putzin doesn't support peace.

We already knew that.

Putin is not in favour of an unconditional ceasefire. That is not unusual in conflicts. A concern parties at war have over ceasefires is how they come out at the end of the ceasefire. It may happen that a side may badly want a ceasefire because a ceasefire can allow it to really improve its situation. A case in point the ceasefire during the Israeli post Independence wars in 1948. At the end of the ceasefire Israel was much more powerful than before

 

[Roadvirus]

Putin is not in favour of an unconditional ceasefire.

He's the aggressor in this. No one gives a shit what he's not in favor of.

 

[Juin]

Nothing but Russian talking points

Russians are part of the conflict, their views have to be addressed

 

[Juin]

He's the aggressor in this. No one gives a shit what he's not in favor of.

Macron, Merz, Trump, Zelensky, Starmer all give a shit what Putin thinks

 

[Roadvirus]

Russians are part of the conflict, their views have to be addressed

They can cram their views up their backside. Sideways. Without lube.

 

[Juin]

Hard to hold elections when cities are being threatened every day with explosive-carrying drones & cruise missiles.

The US held elections during the Civil War. And the US conducted elections in Iraq and Afghanistan, whose security situations were much much worse than in Ukraine

 

[Roadvirus]

The US held elections during the Civil War

I had no idea every city in the North was being hit with drones and cruise missiles during the war by the Confederates.

Huh. You learn something new every day.

 

[Fledermaus]

The US held elections during the Civil War. And the US conducted elections in Iraq and Afghanistan, whose security situations were much much worse than in Ukraine

Iraq and Afghanistan

 

[Juin]

I had no idea every city in the North was being hit with drones and cruise missiles during the war by the Confederates.

Huh. You learn something new every day.

Zelensky himself, in his rude session at the Oval Office, told his hosts that life continues in Ukraine and invited them to come visit. If every city in Ukraine was being hit by drones how do you explain the constant flow of foreign Presidents and Prime Ministers to Ukraine? Heck, Zelensky has even extended and invitation to the Pope.

 

[NolanVoyd]

Zelensky himself, in his rude session at the Oval Office, told his hosts that life continues in Ukraine and invited them to come visit. If every city in Ukraine was being hit by drones how do you explain the constant flow of foreign Presidents and Prime Ministers to Ukraine? Heck, Zelensky has even extended and invitation to the Pope.

You think Zelenskuly was the ride one.

Lol.

Wow.

 

[Juin]

You think Zelenskuly was the ride one.

Lol.

Wow.

Yes. Zelensky was rude. Most unbecoming for a supplicant. He became spoilt during the Biden Presidency and had come to feel himself entitled

 

[Juin]

They can cram their views up their backside. Sideways. Without lube.

Russians are a party to the conflict, therefore their views are part of the discussions. Its a statement of fact. Every news article and world leader is discussing Russians, their views and intents

 

[NolanVoyd]

Yes. Zelensky was rude.

how so?

Most unbecoming for a supplicant.

Lol

 

[Jredbaron96]

how so?

It was incredibly rude for Zelensky to point out the obvious and unavoidable flaw in Vances logic.

 

[Rogue Valley]

You forget what Reagan was aware of: he was the MAGA of his time

Ummm, no. Reagan was a conservative, yet a staunch believer in the Constitution, the Rule of Law, and fighting tyranny.

 

[bomberfox]

He is the iconic Republican president.

These kooks still refer to the Republican as "the party of Reagan" without realizing that Reagan would despise them.

That MAGA is the antithesis of what Reagan stood for

Except for that whole dismantling the federal government thingy and the war on welfare, their handling of COVID is pretty on par with Reagan’s policies. (Hyper focus on who is at fault, do nothing to treat people who have it)