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The Fiscal Cliff in Perspective....

Greece is not comparable to the USA, for many reasons. But I'm sure you already know that. The debt and sspending is only a third of the 'issue' only.

The problems facing the USA at this present time are not economical but political, and if non man-made are certainly magnified by your actions or lack of actions,
 
So, what happens now that they've reached a "deal"? What exactly is the deal and who benefits?
 
So, what happens now that they've reached a "deal"? What exactly is the deal and who benefits?

Everyone on the government teet wins for now while the rest of us carrying those lazy baztards suffers.
 
Both parties are to blame not just one, and I think people need to realize that pointing the finger doesn't help anybody.
 
Everyone on the government teet wins for now while the rest of us carrying those lazy baztards suffers.

except the debt ceiling is not part of the deal apparently, so round 2 cometh soon enough
 
Everyone on the government teet wins for now while the rest of us carrying those lazy baztards suffers.

Alright I have an idea on who those people are (people on welfare), the rest would be middle class workers. What would happen to the middle class? It's probably what they refer to when they talk about this tax increase on the wealthy.
 
Alright I have an idea on who those people are (people on welfare), the rest would be middle class workers. What would happen to the middle class? It's probably what they refer to when they talk about this tax increase on the wealthy.

Middle class payroll taxes will increase meanwhile taxpayer money is used to extend unemployment benefits for another year for 2 million people which is pathetic. Everyone can find a job in 26 weeks much less a year.
 
Why was debt only a problem when Republicans were in office? Why was it dastardly and evil when Dick Cheney said "debt doesn't really matter," but now it's all fine and groovy?
 
Why was debt only a problem when Republicans were in office? Why was it dastardly and evil when Dick Cheney said "debt doesn't really matter," but now it's all fine and groovy?

Obviously because liberals are hypocrits.
 
Everyone on the government teet wins for now while the rest of us carrying those lazy baztards suffers.

It's over, the ones on the government tits are the majority. They love tax, borrow, spend, and freebees as long as it does not cost them a penny and they get the handouts. This last election proved that. We are now solidly a welfare / nanny state, hell look at his cliff thing, see any cuts, no, see higher government spending, yes.
 
It's over, the ones on the government tits are the majority. They love tax, borrow, spend, and freebees as long as it does not cost them a penny and they get the handouts. This last election proved that. We are now solidly a welfare / nanny state, hell look at his cliff thing, see any cuts, no, see higher government spending, yes.

We could compare Allen Iverson spending his money and OBama spending our money and the similarities would be revealing.
 
It's over, the ones on the government tits are the majority. They love tax, borrow, spend, and freebees as long as it does not cost them a penny and they get the handouts. This last election proved that. We are now solidly a welfare / nanny state, hell look at his cliff thing, see any cuts, no, see higher government spending, yes.

The nihilism and contempt toward American values that is the conservative soul on full display.

The only "takers" are conservatives, who don't understand basic economic and how economics grow through infrastructure investment. They've lost, so now the economy will continue to grow, jobs will return, and all conservatives will be left with is their contempt for mythical welfare queens, making the GOP and its hateful ideology a fading bad memory.
 
The nihilism and contempt toward American values that is the conservative soul on full display.

The only "takers" are conservatives, who don't understand basic economic and how economics grow through infrastructure investment. They've lost, so now the economy will continue to grow, jobs will return, and all conservatives will be left with is their contempt for mythical welfare queens, making the GOP and its hateful ideology a fading bad memory.

When you actually earn a paycheck, then maybe you'll begin to understand how wealth is created. And fyi, conservatives have never been against infrastructure, your problem is that you don't know anything but govt spending as the solution to every known problem.
 
The nihilism and contempt toward American values that is the conservative soul on full display.

The only "takers" are conservatives, who don't understand basic economic and how economics grow through infrastructure investment. They've lost, so now the economy will continue to grow, jobs will return, and all conservatives will be left with is their contempt for mythical welfare queens, making the GOP and its hateful ideology a fading bad memory.

Give me a break, lets see Obama borrowed 6 trillion in just 4 yrs and does shovel ready come to mind, what infrastructure? There is no money for infrastructure, of course Obama will borrow it, driving up the national debt over 20 trillion but you don't care, you want to build a bridge. Welfare queens is just the tip of the iceberg of freebees. That's the problem with liberals you've enacted so many entitlements you can't get your arms around them. Infrastructure, yeah, that's it, that will solve all our ills. what a joke.
 
Give me a break, lets see Obama borrowed 6 trillion in just 4 yrs and does shovel ready come to mind, what infrastructure? There is no money for infrastructure, of course Obama will borrow it, driving up the national debt over 20 trillion but you don't care, you want to build a bridge. Welfare queens is just the tip of the iceberg of freebees. That's the problem with liberals you've enacted so many entitlements you can't get your arms around them. Infrastructure, yeah, that's it, that will solve all our ills. what a joke.


1. Your figures are false, the result of too much Fox News.

2. We had a worse debt after WWII and paid it off by growth.

3. Your "freebee" meme is noted as totally counterfactual. Most Americans work hard (except the rich). Hardly any adults get TANF. Get used to it and stop projecting.
 
1. Your figures are false, the result of too much Fox News.

Sorry facts don't lie.

2. We had a worse debt after WWII and paid it off by growth.

Yeah, the problem is from the time of WWII you liberals created so many entitlements and freebees, there is no way to fund them.

3. Your "freebee" meme is noted as totally counterfactual. Most Americans work hard (except the rich). Hardly any adults get TANF. Get used to it and stop projecting.

Not any more they don't, all because of the entitlements and freebees you liberals have enacted sense WWII to turn this country from one of self reliance and responsibility, to one that is dependent on government tits.

You try and compare the past with the present but the fact is you changed this country over the last 80 yrs to a welfare / nanny state.

Now that the cliff is over you continue to tax, borrow, spend, and freebees, raising the national debt to levels never dreamed of before. All because of liberals punishing the rich and rewarding the unsuccessful. This you are proud of.
 
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