The FACTS of COVID are that it is an East Coast problem in Democrat strongholds

[jakiejakester]

So why is it you haven't contracted the virus? I would have preferred people like you not politicizing the problem and giving your governor a pass at the time that we now know was a lie. What you did was purely political and got you the results you wanted, now we have dementia Joe, Open borders, and a Covid19 stimulus that does nothing but support pet liberal policies plus create dependence

What are you ranting about? Your post is nonsensical and says nothing. You threw in Cuomo, Biden and politics when the post you replied to had nothing to do with what you wrote. Do you think that nothing should have been closed, that businesses should have been left open at 100% all the time? Do you think that mask mandates were worthless? Do you think that Covid testing should never have happened?

BTW - Cuomo did an amazing job slowing the spread in NY and saved thousands of lives.

 

[Tbird19482]

What I do not understand is why Democrats want to increase the minimum wage to $15 per hour yet do not mind SS paying me only $7.19 per hour?

We know states can set minimum wages, well because they have done that.
Given the differences in costs and how they vary from state to state, how can the feds pull it off nationally?

well we do have COLA but I agree it doesn't go far enough
SS was set up as a safety net NOT a retirement
it is there for a MIN. and to supplement a retirement not to be the only income when somebody retires
that is what the problem is we have people making and trying to live on min. wage and they can't afford to put any money away for a retirement fund and SS becomes the only money people have to retire on.
Have a nice evening

 

[Conservative]

Why don't you do a little research like I did and find out what went on
Here https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=iba&vm=r&hsimp=yhs-3&gr

Navy ship sent to NYC for outbreak no longer needed, says Cuomo

It's a sign that stresses on the hospital system are easing. Also, hospitals in parts of New York will be able to conduct outpatient elective surgeries again starting next week.

www.pbs.org

The Navy ship arrived March 30 as state and city officials scrambled to add hospital beds to prepare for a potentially catastrophic surge in COVID-19 cases.
But hospitalization levels appeared to have peaked recently amid strict stay-at home restrictions. Total statewide hospitalizations have slowly dropped to about 16,000, more than 2,000 below a week ago.
The Comfort has treated 178 patients, with 56 on board Tuesday.
Earlier in the day, Cuomo said hospitals in parts of upstate New York will be able to conduct outpatient elective surgeries again and he pledged to consider regional differences when re-opening the state’s outbreak-stalled economy.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nyc-mayor-jump-gun-easing-virus-restrictions-702

The Navy ship arrived March 30 as state and city officials scrambled to add hospital beds to prepare for a potentially catastrophic surge in COVID-19 cases.

But hospitalization levels appeared to have peaked recently amid strict stay-at home restrictions. Total statewide hospitalizations have slowly dropped to about 16,000, more than 2,000 below a week ago.

The Comfort has treated 179 patients, with 56 on board Tuesday.

Were NY Nursing Homes Full of COVID-19 Patients While Hospital Ship Sat Empty?

Bureaucratic hurdles appeared to have prevented a hospital ship in New York City from being fully used.

www.snopes.com

Claim


New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo ordered thousands of COVID-19 patients to be sent to nursing homes, while the USNS Comfort, a hospital ship sent to New York to help treat patients, sat empty and unused.




What's True
Due to a March 25, 2020, New York state directive, recovering COVID-19 patients were discharged from hospitals and sent to nursing homes. USNS Comfort, a hospital ship, was sent to New York City that month to aid the city's hospitals, but the ship's resources were underused.






What's False
USNS Comfort was not empty and completely unused. After three weeks, it had treated 179 patients. The underutilization of the ship, however, cannot be blamed solely on Cuomo but on a combination of bureaucratic and military restrictions, as well as the use of the Javits Center as a temporary hospital.

Have a nice day

Thanks for the partisan biased report from a Governor is a liar and a sexual predator. I will stick to the facts, the ship arrived in March and was under utilized until Cuomo, the lying sexual predator in NY claimed they were no longer needed. You gave him accolades for his handling which we now know was a lie but still you cannot accept the fact that liberalism is a fraud, created by liars and supported by people like you who buy rhetoric that you want to believe

Get someone to help you read the chart as deaths and hospitalizations rose in April and May and ship was there in March. Your biased partisan point of view is on full display as is your inability to admit when wrong

 

[Conservative]

What are you ranting about? Your post is nonsensical and says nothing. You threw in Cuomo, Biden and politics when the post you replied to had nothing to do with what you wrote. Do you think that nothing should have been closed, that businesses should have been left open at 100% all the time? Do you think that mask mandates were worthless? Do you think that Covid testing should never have happened?

BTW - Cuomo did an amazing job slowing the spread in NY and saved thousands of lives.

the decision should have been left to the businesses and the individuals not bureaucrats who benefited from the lockdown. Cuomo indeed did an outstanding job killing seniors so it is amazing how gruesome activities are cheered by liberals like you

 

[jakiejakester]

Not at all what I prefer.

Why did Democrats make it seem Trump was the goat given the power of each Governor?

Because he was responsible for hundreds of thousands of extra deaths due to his actions. Discouraged mask wearing, discouraged testing, peed all over social distancing, he held how many superspreader events? How many people how worked in the WH got Covid? He lied about the severity of the disease, kept saying it would go away on its own, he hired Scott Atlas, he ignored the CDC and when he didn't he politicized it by having them change their messages to allow for more spread of the disease...I could go on and on!

Actually all states did not have a serious problem with CV19. And those most hard hit were run by Democrats and somebody best tell me why Cuomo refused to use the hospital ship supplied by Trump and the hospital constructed in NY City by Trump as well as why Cuomo shoved the infected patients into nursing homes causing the old to die due to contact with the infected persons?

It seems Democrats do not want to discuss Cuomo at all.

All bullshit. 6 of the top 10 states by death are red states. All states suffered. Which states did not have serious Covid problems?

The Navy Hospital ship? You're not telling the truth. It was docked in NY Harbor for more than a month but when the beds weren't needed it left. New Yorkers listened to Cuomo and beat down the spread to the point where last summer there were days with zero deaths in NY and cases fell below 400 per day. Was that magic or was it smart strategies that we abided by? You can't dispute the results. The nursing home deaths were terrible and were somewhat avoidable but in the moment, in the beginning Cuomo followed what were then CDC guidelines. Did he lie about actual deaths there? It appears he did and that is not acceptable and he should be condoned for it but he didn't lie about the total deaths, just where some of them occurred.

 

[Conservative]

Because he was responsible for hundreds of thousands of extra deaths due to his actions. Discouraged mask wearing, discouraged testing, peed all over social distancing, he held how many superspreader events? How many people how worked in the WH got Covid? He lied about the severity of the disease, kept saying it would go away on its own, he hired Scott Atlas, he ignored the CDC and when he didn't he politicized it by having them change their messages to allow for more spread of the disease...I could go on and on!


All bullshit. 6 of the top 10 states by death are red states. All states suffered. Which states did not have serious Covid problems?

The Navy Hospital ship? You're not telling the truth. It was docked in NY Harbor for more than a month but when the beds weren't needed it left. New Yorkers listened to Cuomo and beat down the spread to the point where last summer there were days with zero deaths in NY and cases fell below 400 per day. Was that magic or was it smart strategies that we abided by? You can't dispute the results. The nursing home deaths were terrible and were somewhat avoidable but in the moment, in the beginning Cuomo followed what were then CDC guidelines. Did he lie about actual deaths there? It appears he did and that is not acceptable and he should be condoned for it but he didn't lie about the total deaths, just where some of them occurred.

Right, always blame someone in DC for actions in your own backyard, for that is what liberals do, divert, blame and never accept responsibility. Let's stop the bullshit and lies, Trump's rhetoric for four years was never accepted by you and you simply wanted someone else to blame well guess what, Cuomo lied as seniors died and it has nothing to do with Trump, you are paying for that incompetence in your state taxes, congratulations, I am happy to see people waking up and fleeing your screwed up city

And oh by the way you spend a lot of time focusing on red and blue states ignoring that democrats live in Red states and major cities in those red states are run by Democrats so by all means keep electing the same ideology over and over again as I know that will generate different results

 

[minnie616]

...Sorry but property taxes are Taxes, income taxes are taxes, sales taxes are taxes. Your citizens of Michigan pay for your teachers.

You specifically brought up property taxes and I replied it was not that way in Michigan.

Obviously I know more about it than you, teachers are funded by property taxes and those property taxes are created by the local community and county leaders.
...

 

[Conservative]

You specifically brought up property taxes and replied it was not that way in Michigan.

I said your teachers are paid for by your taxes including property taxes as property taxes not only fund schools but also police and fire departments

 

[Robertinfremont]

Because he was responsible for hundreds of thousands of extra deaths due to his actions. Discouraged mask wearing, discouraged testing, peed all over social distancing, he held how many superspreader events? How many people how worked in the WH got Covid? He lied about the severity of the disease, kept saying it would go away on its own, he hired Scott Atlas, he ignored the CDC and when he didn't he politicized it by having them change their messages to allow for more spread of the disease...I could go on and on!


All bullshit. 6 of the top 10 states by death are red states. All states suffered. Which states did not have serious Covid problems?

The Navy Hospital ship? You're not telling the truth. It was docked in NY Harbor for more than a month but when the beds weren't needed it left. New Yorkers listened to Cuomo and beat down the spread to the point where last summer there were days with zero deaths in NY and cases fell below 400 per day. Was that magic or was it smart strategies that we abided by? You can't dispute the results. The nursing home deaths were terrible and were somewhat avoidable but in the moment, in the beginning Cuomo followed what were then CDC guidelines. Did he lie about actual deaths there? It appears he did and that is not acceptable and he should be condoned for it but he didn't lie about the total deaths, just where some of them occurred.

Cuomo propaganda teams working here for Cuomo.

 

[Tbird19482]

Why don't you do a little research like I did and find out what went on
Here https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?hspart=iba&vm=r&hsimp=yhs-3&gr

Navy ship sent to NYC for outbreak no longer needed, says Cuomo

It's a sign that stresses on the hospital system are easing. Also, hospitals in parts of New York will be able to conduct outpatient elective surgeries again starting next week.

www.pbs.org

The Navy ship arrived March 30 as state and city officials scrambled to add hospital beds to prepare for a potentially catastrophic surge in COVID-19 cases.
But hospitalization levels appeared to have peaked recently amid strict stay-at home restrictions. Total statewide hospitalizations have slowly dropped to about 16,000, more than 2,000 below a week ago.
The Comfort has treated 178 patients, with 56 on board Tuesday.
Earlier in the day, Cuomo said hospitals in parts of upstate New York will be able to conduct outpatient elective surgeries again and he pledged to consider regional differences when re-opening the state’s outbreak-stalled economy.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nyc-mayor-jump-gun-easing-virus-restrictions-702

The Navy ship arrived March 30 as state and city officials scrambled to add hospital beds to prepare for a potentially catastrophic surge in COVID-19 cases.

But hospitalization levels appeared to have peaked recently amid strict stay-at home restrictions. Total statewide hospitalizations have slowly dropped to about 16,000, more than 2,000 below a week ago.

The Comfort has treated 179 patients, with 56 on board Tuesday.

Were NY Nursing Homes Full of COVID-19 Patients While Hospital Ship Sat Empty?

Bureaucratic hurdles appeared to have prevented a hospital ship in New York City from being fully used.

www.snopes.com

Claim


New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo ordered thousands of COVID-19 patients to be sent to nursing homes, while the USNS Comfort, a hospital ship sent to New York to help treat patients, sat empty and unused.




What's True
Due to a March 25, 2020, New York state directive, recovering COVID-19 patients were discharged from hospitals and sent to nursing homes. USNS Comfort, a hospital ship, was sent to New York City that month to aid the city's hospitals, but the ship's resources were underused.






What's False
USNS Comfort was not empty and completely unused. After three weeks, it had treated 179 patients. The underutilization of the ship, however, cannot be blamed solely on Cuomo but on a combination of bureaucratic and military restrictions, as well as the use of the Javits Center as a temporary hospital.

Have a nice day

May I point out it says RECOVERING COVID-19 patients were discharged from hospitals and sent to nursing homes and the Nursing homes had regulations to go by and to keep them separated from the other people in the homes
it doesn't say that they were sending people that still had the COVID back to nursing homes ( not out right full blown COVID but " Recovering ")
and I didn't agree with it at the time or now I think they should have made sure people were completely recovered
a lot of cases ( at least in this area) were passed by the people that worked in those Nursing homes because at that time it wasn't really known how it was transferred or how fast it could be transferred )
first recorded person with it in NYC was om March 1st and by the end of the month there were over 79,000 cases
Have a nice evening

 

[Tbird19482]

Thanks for the partisan biased report from a Governor is a liar and a sexual predator. I will stick to the facts, the ship arrived in March and was under utilized until Cuomo, the lying sexual predator in NY claimed they were no longer needed. You gave him accolades for his handling which we now know was a lie but still you cannot accept the fact that liberalism is a fraud, created by liars and supported by people like you who buy rhetoric that you want to believe

Get someone to help you read the chart as deaths and hospitalizations rose in April and May and ship was there in March. Your biased partisan point of view is on full display as is your inability to admit when wrong

IF like it says they decided that it wasn't needed any more so they sent it back to it's home base so if it was needed some place else it could be.
It says the number of cases went down before they sent it back so if they decided they didn't need it why keep it there if it could do some good some place else
Have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

IF like it says they decided that it wasn't needed any more so they sent it back to it's home base so if it was needed some place else it could be.
It says the number of cases went down before they sent it back so if they decided they didn't need it why keep it there if it could do some good some place else
Have a nice day

the pandemic was declared March 15, the ship arrived on March 25 and was sent away the end of April, Cuomo lied, seniors died. Why wasn't the ship needed when it arrived 10 days after the pandemic was declared? You buy rhetoric from a liar??

 

[Tbird19482]

Thanks for the partisan biased report from a Governor is a liar and a sexual predator. I will stick to the facts, the ship arrived in March and was under utilized until Cuomo, the lying sexual predator in NY claimed they were no longer needed. You gave him accolades for his handling which we now know was a lie but still you cannot accept the fact that liberalism is a fraud, created by liars and supported by people like you who buy rhetoric that you want to believe

Get someone to help you read the chart as deaths and hospitalizations rose in April and May and ship was there in March. Your biased partisan point of view is on full display as is your inability to admit when wrong

and one more thing you have to remember this all happened back before they had a firm example of how to treat this and how to keep it from spreading
this was back in the Time Trump was telling all his lies and making contradicting statements so COMO or any other Governor of a NE state did not have any idea what to do
maybe if TRUMP had kept his mouth shut and didn't tell so many lies they would have listened to the people that knew something
Yes I think they should have payed more attention to what the CDC was saying then the out right LIES Trump was saying That was their decision
they had no examples of what to do and had to do a try this and that and if it works ok if it doesn't then we have to change it and try something else and live with that bad choice
They did what they thought was the best for people
It may not have been but like I said they had no examples of what to do and what not to do
It was from their mistakes that other states learned and should have kept their cases less then what NY went through
Have a nice evening

 

[Tbird19482]

the pandemic was declared March 15, the ship arrived on March 25 and was sent away the end of April, Cuomo lied, seniors died. Why wasn't the ship needed when it arrived 10 days after the pandemic was declared? You buy rhetoric from a liar??

Hay all I can do is tell you what I found out in that search I WAS NOT THERE
I did NOT make the decision
Have a nice day

 

[Tbird19482]

the pandemic was declared March 15, the ship arrived on March 25 and was sent away the end of April, Cuomo lied, seniors died. Why wasn't the ship needed when it arrived 10 days after the pandemic was declared? You buy rhetoric from a liar??

The LIAR was TRUMP ( It is just one person/ it is only 15 people / it is just going to go away as fast as it started/ it will be gone by summer/ it will be gone when it warms up and on and on and on.)
COMO and the other Governors in the NE did NOT have any Idea what to do because it had just started and they had NO examples of how to treat it or how to keep it from spreading
They did the best they could
YES they made mistakes and they have taken responsibility for their mistakes
IT was from those mistakes that OTHER states SHOULD have learned something but it doesn't look like they paid attention so they wouldn't make the same mistakes.
and the numbers of cases were higher then they should have been because of it
Have a nice evening

 

[Citizen]

Yeah. So overwhelmed, Cuomo refused a naval hospital ship.

Cuomo did not refuse a naval ship

 

[Paradoxical]

Cuomo did not refuse a naval ship

He didn't use it. Stabbed Trump in the back.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Logic and common sense escapes true liberals which obviously you are one, why should the Federal Gov't raise the minimum wage when the cities and states have that authority?

Asking the same question take 10:

Stop acting and thinking like a liberal

Frame better premises, and defend your position better.

 

[Conservative]

and one more thing you have to remember this all happened back before they had a firm example of how to treat this and how to keep it from spreading
this was back in the Time Trump was telling all his lies and making contradicting statements so COMO or any other Governor of a NE state did not have any idea what to do
maybe if TRUMP had kept his mouth shut and didn't tell so many lies they would have listened to the people that knew something
Yes I think they should have payed more attention to what the CDC was saying then the out right LIES Trump was saying That was their decision
they had no examples of what to do and had to do a try this and that and if it works ok if it doesn't then we have to change it and try something else and live with that bad choice
They did what they thought was the best for people
It may not have been but like I said they had no examples of what to do and what not to do
It was from their mistakes that other states learned and should have kept their cases less then what NY went through
Have a nice evening

Wow, how many excuses are you going to make for liberal failures

 

[ElChupacabra]

Then why is it that cities and states that have the authority to raise the minimum wage aren't doing that?

Many have.

 

[Conservative]

Hay all I can do is tell you what I found out in that search I WAS NOT THERE
I did NOT make the decision
Have a nice day

You have no credibility on research I competed against Walmart you didn't

 

[Conservative]

Many have.

Right thus no need for federal action. Do you need a federal mandate on what to pay your employees

 

[Conservative]

The LIAR was TRUMP ( It is just one person/ it is only 15 people / it is just going to go away as fast as it started/ it will be gone by summer/ it will be gone when it warms up and on and on and on.)
COMO and the other Governors in the NE did NOT have any Idea what to do because it had just started and they had NO examples of how to treat it or how to keep it from spreading
They did the best they could
YES they made mistakes and they have taken responsibility for their mistakes
IT was from those mistakes that OTHER states SHOULD have learned something but it doesn't look like they paid attention so they wouldn't make the same mistakes.
and the numbers of cases were higher then they should have been because of it
Have a nice evening

Trump doesnt run your state, take a civics class

 

[Citizen]

He didn't use it. Stabbed Trump in the back.

It’s you said he refused it and now you say he didn’t use it. By the time the ship came, things were a little bit under control

 

[jakiejakester]

you really are partisan and buy what you are told, the USNS Comfort was sent the end of March 2020 so you tell me when the Covid Cases started to drop?? Your buy the leftwing rhetoric no matter if a lie or not. Cuomo said the ship wasn't needed in the end of April

Why wasn't it used? You tell us why? I know why. We had enough capacity in our hospitals that's why. Would you have preferred that we send people to a ship rather than a hospital? It was great to have it if needed but it was greater that we didn't need it. So what do you think is the reason? Damn!