The FACTS of COVID are that it is an East Coast problem in Democrat strongholds

[Allan]

Mainstream media doesn't want you you to know these facts.

The four states with the highest death toll per million of population are New York with 8.4 million people, Massachusetts with 7 million people, New Jersey with 9 million people and Connecticut with 3.6 million people for a total of 29 million people. The population of the entire United States is 331 million people. As of today, the tracker shows those those four states have 51,833 deaths which is almost a THIRD of the total deaths of 161,511. In just these four states!!!


The chart on Coronavirus Update (Live): 19,049,917 Cases and 712,474 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer is averaged for all states and shows the United States with 488 deaths per million of population. BUT…if you take out these four states, the deaths per million is just 398 per million. However, the death rate in the four states is an average of a shocking 1,495 per million for the total of 29 million residents.

So how does this compare with the rest of the world and what does it tell us? That puts us 10th on the list and tells us that the four states as well as some other highly populated areas are the ones making it seem like we are doing poorly. Not only that, those are poorly run DEMOCRAT enclaves and have been for decades. Not so surprisingly, they are all on the East Coast.

For THIS, the leftists tell me I need to wear a mask and close up a business because they are afraid, even though I am not in one of those states. They have not seen the facts I stated above and even after they do an are told their chances of catching COVID are as slim as being bitten by a brown spider, they have been indoctrinated by MSM now so much that they are in rage.

Some of the states within the lowest quadrant of deaths/million are also in the Northeast (Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, Virginia). And some of the highest are in the south (Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama).

So geographic region clearly doesn't explain variances.

 

[Conservative]

You are in denial and ignore facts.

50 million Covid vaccine shots have been given since President Biden took office.

In fact Michigan alone has reported more than 2 million doses of the COVID-19 administered as of Thursday, Feb. 25.

Oh by the way I got my first shot on January 6 long before Biden took office. The Pfizer vaccine was approved on December 11, Moderna in Mid December but by all means give Biden credit not only for distribution but for development as that is what liberals do, take credit for someone else's work

 

[ElChupacabra]

of course you weren't because that reality escapes you as you confuse a temporary job with a part time jobs for economic reasons and cannot admit when wrong. Obama generated record numbers of part time jobs for economics because his economic policies didn't generate the quality jobs promised, just like all liberal policies

I already stated I gave you the benefit of the doubt regarding your stance on the temporary vs part time jobs during the Obama administration. This wasn't a case of not knowing the difference, but being sure of your past stance.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Yes Trump rhetoric obviously caused governors and states to react the way they did like shutting down their economies to put Americans out of work and dependent on liberalism. It is truly amazing how rhetoric from someone that you never voted for and never liked is now so important to you. You are nothing more than a partisan liberal out of touch with reality and actual results focused solely on placing blame vs accepting personal responsibilities

For some reason you keep deflecting Trump's rhetoric with the actions of governors which are two separate issues. As for the partisan here, I think if we count the number of times you talk negatively about liberals compared to the number of times I even mention conservatives, it's pretty clear who the partisan is between the two of us.

 

[Conservative]

I already stated I gave you the benefit of the doubt regarding your stance on the temporary vs part time jobs during the Obama administration. This wasn't a case of not knowing the difference, but being sure of your past stance.

My stance will always be to post official data with CONTEXT and the reality is the Obama economy was a disaster and far too many are shortsighted willing to return to that debacle. You going to tell us how raising the minimum wage and shutting down the Keystone Pipeline is going to put over 10 million Americans back to work? Are you like most liberals, you have your job therefore nothing else matters?

 

[Conservative]

For some reason you keep deflecting Trump's rhetoric with the actions of governors which are two separate issues. As for the partisan here, I think if we count the number of times you talk negatively about liberals compared to the number of times I even mention conservatives, it's pretty clear who the partisan is between the two of us.

It is very easy to negatively talk about liberals as I was once one and realized what a fool they were making out of me as the results never match the rhetoric. It is easy being a liberal as you don't have to have any guts to make tough decisions. you just buy rhetoric and blame someone else. Doesn't it feel good to hear that your money is being spent in the name of compassion??? How about the results of that spending?

 

[ElChupacabra]

My stance will always be to post official data with CONTEXT and the reality is the Obama economy was a disaster and far too many are shortsighted willing to return to that debacle. You going to tell us how raising the minimum wage and shutting down the Keystone Pipeline is going to put over 10 million Americans back to work?

I have already addressed the minimum wage with you, so no, repeating it again in a thread about COVID 19 doesn't make much sense. I have addressed the pipeline as well.

Are you like most liberals, you have your job therefore nothing else matters?

Nope, which is why as it relates to the thread topic, I thought it was critical to curb the pandemic spread so the impacts are short term versus what we're going through now.

 

[ElChupacabra]

It is very easy to negatively talk about liberals as I was once one and realized what a fool they were making out of me as the results never match the rhetoric. It is easy being a liberal as you don't have to have any guts to make tough decisions. you just buy rhetoric and blame someone else. Doesn't it feel good to hear that your money is being spent in the name of compassion??? How about the results of that spending?

Odd that you advocate not placing blame on others and you blame liberals for "making a fool" out of you. From a personal responsibility perspective, that's very much a "you" problem, since it's on the individual to make informed political choices.

Pro Tip: Speaking negatively about others is poor form, and reveals more about you than your targets.

 

[Conservative]

I have already addressed the minimum wage with you, so no, repeating it again in a thread about COVID 19 doesn't make much sense. I have addressed the pipeline as well.



Nope, which is why as it relates to the thread topic, I thought it was critical to curb the pandemic spread so the impacts are short term versus what we're going through now.

I will continue to repeat the minimum wage argument until you admit being wrong, the federal gov't has no business setting a minimum wage when the states have that authority.

As for the pipeline you again confused part time jobs with part time jobs for economic reasons believing that length of the job is what matters vs the hours on the job.

As for the spread of the pandemic, it is interesting how the left ignores the largest blue state and the nation and the rapid growth there just like they ignore that blue cities lead the way in growth but because blue cities are in red states the red states are all that matters.

 

[Conservative]

Odd that you advocate not placing blame on others and you blame liberals for "making a fool" out of you. From a personal responsibility perspective, that's very much a "you" problem, since it's on the individual to make informed political choices.

Pro Tip: Speaking negatively about others is poor form, and reveals more about you than your targets.

Yes I bought rhetoric for years and probably have voted for more Democrats than you Republicans. I can see how easy it is to be fooled by rhetoric but after years of verifying rhetoric to results I dropped my liberal ideology and went with the only one that makes sense, being a conservative and accepting personal responsibilities not placing blame

Unfortunately your double standard is on full display or should I say the liberal double standard for anyone that disagrees with a liberal has to be personally attacked and destroyed, results don't matter to the left as perception and rhetoric is reality.

 

[CaughtInThe]

In keeping with the spirit of this thread, Aaron Rodgers is only East Coast quarterback.

 

[jakiejakester]

Check yours

NY 245 deaths/100K
FL 144 deaths/100K

I'd take my chances in FL

If your Gov. wasn't so intent on killing all your seniors, your numbers would have been much better.

Sir...how is that 50%?

 

[Paradoxical]

He didn't file 60+; the Trump camp filed 43 and the rest were by others, but all relating to the post election outcome. The thing to remember is they were all based on his premise of election fraud and used a variety of premises to attempt to block results.

The Trump "camp"? Did he take his fishing pole and tent?

 

[jakiejakester]

It ruined America's life. It does suck to be controlled by big Tech and have people like you idolize doctors and politicians and totalitarians. Communism isn't far off.

OOOOO...The big red scare! Yes, Dems = Commies! As I wrote it must suck to believe what you just wrote and to live with that belief. Sorry you've subjected yourself to so much misery. Maybe it's time for you to secede from the Union and start your own country...

 

[Paradoxical]

In keeping with the spirit of this thread, Aaron Rodgers is only East Coast quarterback.

He lost to a Trump supporter in Florida

 

[CaughtInThe]

He lost to a Trump supporter in Florida

which makes him an East Coast QB.

 

[Paradoxical]

Some of the states within the lowest quadrant of deaths/million are also in the Northeast (Vermont, Maine, New Hampshire, Virginia). And some of the highest are in the south (Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama).

So geographic region clearly doesn't explain variances.

Try to explain it away any way you want. This thread was started way back in August and someone resurrected it. Not me. I had forgotten all about it. But, those states mentioned haven't changed much as far as their ratios of DPMs versus other states. All of you are engaging in mental gymnastics to try to justify masks when Florida is staring all of you in the face mask.

 

[jakiejakester]

And it has been proven that there have been a lot of lies regarding Covid19 but ignored by people like you with an agenda. it is a fake death count to scare people like you and it has worked. Nothing changes that reality nor the reality that your governor lied and seniors died!!

What are these lies you mentioned? Prove it please or we will assume the lies about Covid are from you in this very post. I proved that what you wrote is untrue with 3 very true links. You? You just type out what you believe without one iota of proof...that's your style.

 

[Conservative]

OOOOO...The big red scare! Yes, Dems = Commies! As I wrote it must suck to believe what you just wrote and to live with that belief. Sorry you've subjected yourself to so much misery. Maybe it's time for you to secede from the Union and start your own country...

Your city is already a third world country where the media controls the rhetoric and reality. Results have no place in the liberal world unless the results can be used to blame someone else

 

[jakiejakester]

Yes, liberals are our enemies, they spend money in the name of compassion buying votes and creating permanent dependence which you are too blind to see. You ever going to tell us why you support an ideology that destroys incentive, jobs, and creates multi millionaire public servants?

It's sad for you that believe your fellow Americans are your enemies. It must be a miserable life to live in a country where you genuinely believe that your fellow citizens are your enemy. Maybe that explains some of your hatred if you believe that I'm your enemy. Am I your enemy?

What about the insurrectionists? Are they our enemies since they attacked our Capitol and tried to defy the Constitution with a violent insurrection?

 

[Paradoxical]

OOOOO...The big red scare! Yes, Dems = Commies! As I wrote it must suck to believe what you just wrote and to live with that belief. Sorry you've subjected yourself to so much misery. Maybe it's time for you to secede from the Union and start your own country...

America is as divided now than it ever has been.

Doesn't it suck to pay 20% more for gas in just one month that Biden has been in? I am betting gas will DOUBLE in a year hurting mainly poor people. Unemployment will skyrocket because of illegals taking jobs from minorities and we will have to house, school, and provide medical care for them. Home heating and cooling costs will double. Inflation will skyrocket. Interest rates for n=homes back to 7-8%

 

[Paradoxical]

which makes him an East Coast QB.

Florida is south. Don't denigrate them by including them with the crap Shole states like NY and Mass

 

[Conservative]

What are these lies you mentioned? Prove it please or we will assume the lies about Covid are from you in this very post. I proved that what you wrote is untrue with 3 very true links. You? You just type out what you believe without one iota of proof...that's your style.

With all your articles regarding Covid19 you have never found one where the death count was altered to support a particular goal? The left wants an extremely high death toll to promote their agenda and that seems to be working in blue states and cities like yours as you never place blame on local leadership but always divert to somewhere else

How Many Have Died From Coronavirus? 8 Problems With Covid-19 Death Counts (forbes.com)

 

[CaughtInThe]

Florida is south. Don't denigrate them by including them with the crap Shole states like NY and Mass

yes, Aaron Rogers has always been a Florida QB.

dude. do you ever make ANY sense??

 

[Conservative]

It's sad for you that believe your fellow Americans are your enemies. It must be a miserable life to live in a country where you genuinely believe that your fellow citizens are your enemy. Maybe that explains some of your hatred if you believe that I'm your enemy. Am I your enemy?

What about the insurrectionists? Are they our enemies since they attacked our Capitol and tried to defy the Constitution with a violent insurrection?

My fellow Americans?? What is it about liberals like you who divide people into classes and promote an ideology that really has had no impact on you and your family yet you still support rhetoric over results. Dividing is what people like you do and have done for the past year. You have promoted that Trump is responsible for the deaths in your state and city and that rhetoric has sold totally diverting from the reality that the response is totally up to the city and state but you cannot accept that reality.

you totally ignore that the capitol riots don't trump the riots all over the country in blue cities so tell me what is it about liberalism that creates people like you and such loyalty?

You keep buying rhetoric and keep ignoring results as the left loves having people like you supporting their ideology