THE EVIDENCES FOR GOD

[Quag]

This God has given me evidence of the faith given to me. They are signs in the stars and our planet is beginning to come into view of them as we speak. They can be seen early in the morning as of this date. They bear witness to Jesus in the only things he told us to do in his remembrance.....the last supper, cup before supper, the breaking of unleavened bread for the remembrance of his body, and the cup after supper for the remembrance of his blood.

God speaks of these in a few places in the OT. They surround the constellations Orion, Taurus specifically the Hyades, and the Pleiades. They have been visible for millennia upon millennia, well before the life of Christ. In the beginning God said He set the stars for signs.....what other sign except His Son.


(Gen 1:14) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

(Job 38:31) Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?


The Father and God of Christ has set signs in the stars bearing witness to His Son. The Pleiades will rise first in the east, followed by the Hyades, then Orion. In conjunction to the Last Supper, the Pleiades is the cup before supper, the Hyades which forms a giant V for the breaking of unleavened bread, and then Orion which has a big cup, clearer than the Big Dipper, which the belt forms the base of the cup. Coming from one corner of the cup in Orion goes to the star Rigel and there is a perfect cross easily seen. Laying in a straight line these constellations have been shouting their witness/confirmation of God and His Christ for many millennia.

A short explanation of which I'm sure will be belittled, mocked, and mostly ignored by the Christians, agnostics, and atheists for it has been this way since the Lord showed me. Laugh, mock and ridicule to your hearts content or just write it off and take absolute zero time to go see them......but you asked, so there you go. They are very easy to see, especially when the moon is not out. Best chance is wait for the new moon, on a clear night and go check it out. I would be extremely surprised if there is one person on this forum who will take the time.

You are confusing beleif with evidence

 

[Daisy]

You are confusing beleif with evidence

Evidence builds faith...

 

[Quag]

Evidence builds faith...

Yes it can but there is literally no evidence for any God(s) thus any faith in God(s) is based solely on belief.

 

[tosca1]

Yes it can but there is literally no evidence for any God(s) thus any faith in God(s) is based solely on belief.

Unless you can answer the question - you're sounding like you're trying to convince yourself more than anyone else.

Can we please stop littering bs responses to this thread. You're saying nothing new that atheists who are in denial, have not said a million times already.
What makes you the authority on the matter when you don't offer any reasonable rebuttal, to say the least!

Various evidences based on different premise are spelled out CLEARLY in the OP and, we went into details with biblical evidence for creation, in the other thread, THE BIBLE.



Just because you don't know how to open your eyes doesn't mean there are no evidence(s)!
Lol - Only an idiot will measure the validity of an issue through the eyes of someone who can't see!
If you're lost - would you ask for direction from a blind guy?
That's simple logic..............no?


Lol - or...................maybe.............. you'd ask his dog?



here are the given evidence (so far), on the issue of creation that's written in the Bible:


Superiority over beasts - #21, #31
Dominion over and stewardship of all creation - #89
Hydrological Cycle - #70
Description of destruction of Sodom consistent with archeological findings - #71
Stretching Universe - #111
The biblical curse on the snake - #133
The human body - #134
Genesis creation narrative in the right order. - #180 (thanks to Patriotic Voter); #182and #183
Springs in the ocean - #288
The universe has a beginning – the Big bang - #342
One land. One ocean. - #349

Pathfinder of The Seas (Matthew Maury) - #527
SPECIES - #621
Where Did The Great Flood Water Go? - #622
WIND and the WATER CYCLE - #622
Ark Specification - #649
Physical Laws are Constant - #671
Singing Stars - #750
Orion and Arcturus - #751

Natural Laws - #944

Infant Earth (Psalm 104) - #947
"It Should never be moved" - FOUNDATIONS (Psalm 104) - #953, #955, #957, #958 (Elora), #962, #967, #991, #999, #1000, #1004, #1008, #1012, #1014
FOUNDATIONS (plural form) Psalm 104 - #982
Invisible Axis - #994


Infant Earth – #1,071
Noah's Flood and Catastrophic Plate Tectonics (videos) - #1,072, 1,073
Dinosaurs In The Bible (video) - #1,075


Theory: Criminal Law, part of Human Nature (made into the image of God) – #1,091

NUTRITION (Fruits and Veggies) - #1,094
Science was created by GOD (had stopped backing atheism and pointing back to God, article) - #1,097
On MANY FLOOD and CREATION stories - #1,100, 1,119, 1,127,

The recesses of the deep (Job 38 and Psalm 107) - #1,238, 1,239


Apollo 8 Genesis Book-reading - #1,247, 1,249, #1,251


When The Morning Stars Sang Together - `#1,252


Traced: Lost Tribe of Israel In Africa - #1,253
Traced: The Ashkenazi Jews - #1,254
Traced: American Indians Linked To Askenazi Jews – 1,255

Thread 'The Bible'

Jan 18, 2022

Can the Bible ( any version ) be used to prove the the Bible to be factual truth? Why, or why not? State your case.

• Logician Man
• Replies: 1,692
• Forum: Beliefs and Skepticism

• 

*****update:

God's command to multiply - post # 647 (on this thread)





The challenge question is quite clear:


explain how the Bible can give so many information about creation - thousands of years before modern science can!

If you can't - then, zip it.

 

[tosca1]

It's more about reality than division. I don't think God would want us to remain ignorant to the age of the universe. To tell others that the Earth is only six thousand years old is willful ignorance through indoctrination and everybody else sees it.

It's not about what you think!
It's about what the Bible says.
DO NOT ADD!

Lol - before we know it - you could be condemning the young earth believers.
Hold your tongue!


If knowing the precised age of the earth is so important - then, it would've been clearly stated in the Bible.


The message in Genesis, is about GOD being the CREATOR of all things. He tells how He created them, and the instructions given to His creation.

Imho, it's not a deal breaker to believe in the literal interpretation and the scientific interpretation.......as long as you believe who the Creator is.
Both interpretations can be applied. The young earth believers simply want to take GOD's exact words to heart.

There is an issue or a challenge with carbon dating. What happens if advanced technology later on discovers that these datings are wrong?
Technology is even evolving faster as we speak.
There's been miscalculations in other science findings.......

A Crucial Archaeological Dating Tool Is Wrong, And It Could Change History as We Know It

One of the most important dating tools used in archaeology may sometimes give misleading data, new study shows - and it could change whole historical timelines as a result.

www.sciencealert.com

Carbon dating accuracy called into question after major flaw discovery

One of the most essential tools for determining an ancient object’s age, carbon dating, might not be as accurate as we once thought.

www.siliconrepublic.com

Why all we knew about planets is wrong

We thought we knew how planets form, but the discovery of hundreds outside our Solar System changed all that, even what type of world can house life like ours.

www.bbc.com

New Discovery Casts Doubt on How The Solar System Formed

Astronomers have discovered a new type of star system that defies everything we know about the formation of the Solar System.

www.sciencealert.com

Oops, Scientists May Have Severely Miscalculated How Many Humans Are on Earth

We have to start counting from 1 again...

www.popularmechanics.com

Actually - those who believe in the literal interpretation seem to be showing their faith strong - imho - since they aren't swayed by scientific claims.
Kinda like....."Blessed are those who believe yet do not see........"


Btw, I'm neutral on the issue.
Age of earth - old or young - doesn't make any difference to me.

 

[LittleNipper]

GOD came down to save man which in no way could save himself. THEY created man in THEIR image. (Let US make man in OUR image). There couldn't be an US unless GOD is multi person in nature, Several issues surprisingly cover by the Bible. GOD claims to have stretched out the stars like a curtain. GOD claims to have created LIGHT before HE created the sun and stars. Another issue is that the only way we can measure the speed of light is by timing reflected light. This assumes that first hand light (directly from a source) travels at the exact same speed ----- but we cannot be certain. The Bible says that GOD created the entire Universe in one week (resting on the 7th day). Each day is specifically presented as evening and morning intervals. The Bible presents the history of man as days with each day representing 1000 years. The Millennial Kingdom will last 1000 years, which is the last day of the week. The Millennium comes right after the 7 years of Jacob's Trouble --- also known as the Great Tribulation Period. And the Tribulation starts right after the RAPTURE or CATCHING AWAY of CHRIST's CHURCH (the body of ALL saved believers). And this event is presently what Christians are watching for. It most definitely is getting closer as opposed to moving away. One of the signs is the reestablishment of nation of Israel. Another sign is serious threats of war everywhere. And yet another sign is earthquakes happening everywhere in rapid succession. New Jersey has had 2 within the last year and they are nearly unheard of here. There is constant worry over Climate Change with more and more major hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, and volcanic activity everywhere. I mean volcanoes which have not erupted for 50 years are all beginning to become active... You can laugh all you wish, but scientists, cannot fix anything, They can only predict and make educated guesses. Only GOD has that power, but I feel that HE isn't going to wait much longer ---- time is running out, and the last time CHRIST was on the planet was about AD 31 ---- give or take approximately 4 years.

I repaired first line...... BIG mistake! I feel strongly that the seeming age of the earth resulted from its brokenness as a result of the FLOOD. The earth prior to the Flood likely resembled the NEW earth as described in Revelations in many aspects. Likely large hills (no rocky mountains). NO oceans (likely large lakes). Most of what we see presently is directly the result of Noah's Flood which was result of sin that was already changing the environment.

 

[redbeer]

It's not about what you think!
It's about what the Bible says.
DO NOT ADD!

Lol - before we know it - you could be condemning the young earth believers.
Hold your tongue!


If knowing the precised age of the earth is so important - then, it would've been clearly stated in the Bible.


The message in Genesis, is about GOD being the CREATOR of all things. He tells how He created them, and the instructions given to His creation.

Imho, it's not a deal breaker to believe in the literal interpretation and the scientific interpretation.......as long as you believe who the Creator is.
Both interpretations can be applied. The young earth believers simply want to take GOD's exact words to heart.

There is an issue or a challenge with carbon dating. What happens if advanced technology later on discovers that these datings are wrong?
Technology is even evolving faster as we speak.
There's been miscalculations in other science findings.......

A Crucial Archaeological Dating Tool Is Wrong, And It Could Change History as We Know It

One of the most important dating tools used in archaeology may sometimes give misleading data, new study shows - and it could change whole historical timelines as a result.

www.sciencealert.com

Carbon dating accuracy called into question after major flaw discovery

One of the most essential tools for determining an ancient object’s age, carbon dating, might not be as accurate as we once thought.

www.siliconrepublic.com

Why all we knew about planets is wrong

We thought we knew how planets form, but the discovery of hundreds outside our Solar System changed all that, even what type of world can house life like ours.

www.bbc.com

New Discovery Casts Doubt on How The Solar System Formed

Astronomers have discovered a new type of star system that defies everything we know about the formation of the Solar System.

www.sciencealert.com

Oops, Scientists May Have Severely Miscalculated How Many Humans Are on Earth

We have to start counting from 1 again...

www.popularmechanics.com

Actually - those who believe in the literal interpretation seem to be showing their faith strong - imho - since they aren't swayed by scientific claims.
Kinda like....."Blessed are those who believe yet do not see........"


Btw, I'm neutral on the issue.
Age of earth - old or young - doesn't make any difference to me.

So, we must believe what "you" think.......ok, I'm starting to get the picture now.

 

[tosca1]

So, we must believe what "you" think.......ok, I'm starting to get the picture now.

READ MY POST AGAIN!


AND AGAIN.


AND AGAIN.


AND AGAIN

 

[redbeer]

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READ MY POST AGAIN!


AND AGAIN.


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I understand perfectly......you do NOT want anyone questioning "young earth believers"......I say, "you don't speak for me".

 

[LittleNipper]

Everyone is free to question: however, to twist what the Bible says in order to make it fit someone's values and opinions is clearly a mistake, and a slippery slope to accepting NOTHING the Bible says at all.

 

[Daisy]

So, we must believe what "you" think.......ok, I'm starting to get the picture now.

Bingo!

 

[Daisy]

I understand perfectly......you do NOT want anyone questioning "young earth believers"......I say, "you don't speak for me".

Amen!

 

[Daisy]

Everyone is free to question: however, to twist what the Bible says in order to make it fit someone's values and opinions is clearly a mistake, and a slippery slope to accepting NOTHING the Bible says at all.

lol...then stop doing it...

 

[LittleNipper]

lol...then stop doing it...

YOU FIRST!
What JWs teach ---- What GOD's Word says. (outside the New World Translation and without Awake & Watch Tower influence)
No eternal hell/punishment ------ Revelation 14:9-11, Revelation 20:10, 14 & 15
No cross ---------- Matthew 27:32-56
Not Omnipresent ------ Psalm 139:7–10
Change the wording of the Bible ------ Proverbs 30:6

 

[Quag]

Unless you can answer the question - you're sounding like you're trying to convince yourself more than anyone else.

Can we please stop littering bs responses to this thread. You're saying nothing new that atheists who are in denial, have not said a million times already.
What makes you the authority on the matter when you don't offer any reasonable rebuttal, to say the least!

Various evidences based on different premise are spelled out CLEARLY in the OP and, we went into details with biblical evidence for creation, in the other thread, THE BIBLE.



Just because you don't know how to open your eyes doesn't mean there are no evidence(s)!
Lol - Only an idiot will measure the validity of an issue through the eyes of someone who can't see!
If you're lost - would you ask for direction from a blind guy?
That's simple logic..............no?


Lol - or...................maybe.............. you'd ask his dog?



here are the given evidence (so far), on the issue of creation that's written in the Bible:


Superiority over beasts - #21, #31
Dominion over and stewardship of all creation - #89
Hydrological Cycle - #70
Description of destruction of Sodom consistent with archeological findings - #71
Stretching Universe - #111
The biblical curse on the snake - #133
The human body - #134
Genesis creation narrative in the right order. - #180 (thanks to Patriotic Voter); #182and #183
Springs in the ocean - #288
The universe has a beginning – the Big bang - #342
One land. One ocean. - #349

Pathfinder of The Seas (Matthew Maury) - #527
SPECIES - #621
Where Did The Great Flood Water Go? - #622
WIND and the WATER CYCLE - #622
Ark Specification - #649
Physical Laws are Constant - #671
Singing Stars - #750
Orion and Arcturus - #751

Natural Laws - #944

Infant Earth (Psalm 104) - #947
"It Should never be moved" - FOUNDATIONS (Psalm 104) - #953, #955, #957, #958 (Elora), #962, #967, #991, #999, #1000, #1004, #1008, #1012, #1014
FOUNDATIONS (plural form) Psalm 104 - #982
Invisible Axis - #994


Infant Earth – #1,071
Noah's Flood and Catastrophic Plate Tectonics (videos) - #1,072, 1,073
Dinosaurs In The Bible (video) - #1,075


Theory: Criminal Law, part of Human Nature (made into the image of God) – #1,091

NUTRITION (Fruits and Veggies) - #1,094
Science was created by GOD (had stopped backing atheism and pointing back to God, article) - #1,097
On MANY FLOOD and CREATION stories - #1,100, 1,119, 1,127,

The recesses of the deep (Job 38 and Psalm 107) - #1,238, 1,239


Apollo 8 Genesis Book-reading - #1,247, 1,249, #1,251


When The Morning Stars Sang Together - `#1,252


Traced: Lost Tribe of Israel In Africa - #1,253
Traced: The Ashkenazi Jews - #1,254
Traced: American Indians Linked To Askenazi Jews – 1,255

Thread 'The Bible'

Jan 18, 2022

Can the Bible ( any version ) be used to prove the the Bible to be factual truth? Why, or why not? State your case.

• Logician Man
• Replies: 1,692
• Forum: Beliefs and Skepticism

• 

*****update:

God's command to multiply - post # 647 (on this thread)





The challenge question is quite clear:


explain how the Bible can give so many information about creation - thousands of years before modern science can!

If you can't - then, zip it.

Long text without a hint of any actual evidence
If you cant provide any actual evidnece then ZIP IT
After all this thread is supoosed to be about evidences for God.
I will continue to point that out as long as you continue to pretend to have some yet never deliver

 

[Daisy]

No eternal hell/punishment ------ Revelation 14:9-11, Revelation 20:10, 14 & 15

The punishment is eternal death/destruction...Matthew 25:46; 2 Thessalonians 1:9; 2 Peter 2:9; Revelation 21:8...

No cross ---------- Matthew 27:32-56

Who cares? Only someone who worships it...we don't worship the cross/torture stake...we worship Jehovah God...Matthew 4:10...

Not Omnipresent ------ Psalm 139:7–10

Jehovah's holy spirit is everywhere...Psalm 139:7-10...

Change the wording of the Bible ------ Proverbs 30:6

Oh, you mean like adding the trinity doctrine or the immortal soul or hellfire...like that...Proverbs 30:6..

 

[gboisjo]

Science and religion are like oil and water, they are fundamentally incompatible, inherently opposed to one another. Christians who attempt to mix the two come across as wanting, needy and hard up. Do yourself a favor, stay in your own lane when talking about Christ, the Bible and personal Christian beliefs

 

[LittleNipper]

The punishment is eternal death/destruction...Matthew 25:46; 2 Thessalonians 1:9; 2 Peter 2:9; Revelation 21:8...

Punishment that is unending

Who cares? Only someone who worships it...we don't worship the cross/torture stake...we worship Jehovah God...Matthew 4:10...

The organization known as the Jehovah's Witnesses would take exception with that.

Jehovah's holy spirit is everywhere...Psalm 139:7-10...

The FATHER is a spirit.



John 4:24 states, "God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth

Oh, you mean like adding the trinity doctrine or the immortal soul or hellfire...like that...Proverbs 30:6..

Mt 10:28 – “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the one who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

 

[LittleNipper]

Science and religion are like oil and water, they are fundamentally incompatible, inherently opposed to one another. Christians who attempt to mix the two come across as wanting, needy and hard up. Do yourself a favor, stay in your own lane when talking about Christ, the Bible and personal Christian beliefs

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Try mixing the two in a vacuum. That's called science. Your way is simply an attempt to construct a wall instead of dealing with the issues at hand.

 

[Daisy]

Punishment that is unending

Of course...they will never have a resurrection...they're dead...

The organization known as the Jehovah's Witnesses would take exception with that.

No they wouldn't, they'd agree with me...people like you make a big deal about the irrelevant...I think I know better than you...

The FATHER is a spirit.

Yes, He is but if David was speaking of Jehovah Himself, his comments would all be in the 1st person, like in verse 8...he did not so he is speaking of Jehovah's holy spirit...he makes the distinction...your/you...



7 Where can I escape from your spirit,
where can I run away from your face?+

8 If I were to ascend to heaven, you would be there,
And if I were to make my bed in the Grave,* look! you would be there.+

Mt 10:28 – “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the one who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”

Here ya go, more accurate translations...


World English Bible
Don't be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

A Faithful Version
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but do not have power to destroy the life; rather, fear Him Who has the power to destroy both life and body in Gehenna.

Literal Standard Version
And do not be afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Berean Literal Bible
And you should not be afraid of those killing the body but not being able to kill the soul. Indeed rather you should fear the One being able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Young's Literal Translation
'And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul; rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”

Mace New Testament
fear not those who can only kill the body, but cannot hurt the soul: rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Weymouth New Testament
"And do not fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul; but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Well, lookie here...the NWT says the same thing...imagine that...

"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul;+ rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/bc/r1/lp-e/1001070123/2894

 

[LittleNipper]

World English Bible
Don't be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

A Faithful Version
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but do not have power to destroy the life; rather, fear Him Who has the power to destroy both life and body in Gehenna.

Literal Standard Version
And do not be afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Berean Literal Bible
And you should not be afraid of those killing the body but not being able to kill the soul. Indeed rather you should fear the One being able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Young's Literal Translation
'And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul; rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”

Mace New Testament
fear not those who can only kill the body, but cannot hurt the soul: rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Weymouth New Testament
"And do not fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul; but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Well, lookie here...the NWT says the same thing...imagine that...

"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul;+ rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/bc/r1/lp-e/1001070123/2894

So, you totally agree that the body and the soul are two different things. Now all you need to accept is the spirit. And Christians possess the HOLY SPIRIT.

 

[Daisy]

So, you totally agree that the body and the soul are two different things. Now all you need to accept is the spirit. And Christians possess the HOLY SPIRIT.

I do not and the soul is not immortal...if it was, it could not die...killing the body and soul refers to no resurrection...

Matthew 10:28​

soul: Or “life,” that is, a person’s future life by means of a resurrection. The Greek word psy·kheʹ and its corresponding Hebrew word neʹphesh (both traditionally rendered “soul”) basically refer to (1) people, (2) animals, or (3) the life that a person or an animal has. (Ge 1:20; 2:7; Nu 31:28; 1Pe 3:20; ftns.) Examples of the use of the Greek psy·kheʹ to mean “life that a person has” may be found at Mt 6:25; 10:39; 16:25, 26; Mr 8:35-37; Lu 12:20; Joh 10:11, 15; 12:25; 13:37, 38; 15:13; Ac 20:10. Bible texts like these help to show the correct understanding of Jesus’ words here.—See Glossary.

him who can destroy both soul and body: It is only God who is able to destroy a person’s “soul” (in this context, referring to his prospects for life) or who can resurrect him to enjoy everlasting life. This is one example of where the Greek word rendered “soul” is referred to as mortal and destructible. Other examples are Mr 3:4; Lu 17:33; Joh 12:25; Ac 3:23.

Gehenna: This means everlasting destruction.—See study note on Mt 5:22 and Glossary.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwtsty/40/10#s=28&study=discover

And I see you have nothing to say about your inaccurate translation...

 

[LittleNipper]

I do not and the soul is not immortal...if it was, it could not die...killing the body and soul refers to no resurrection...

Matthew 10:28​

soul: Or “life,” that is, a person’s future life by means of a resurrection. The Greek word psy·kheʹ and its corresponding Hebrew word neʹphesh (both traditionally rendered “soul”) basically refer to (1) people, (2) animals, or (3) the life that a person or an animal has. (Ge 1:20; 2:7; Nu 31:28; 1Pe 3:20; ftns.) Examples of the use of the Greek psy·kheʹ to mean “life that a person has” may be found at Mt 6:25; 10:39; 16:25, 26; Mr 8:35-37; Lu 12:20; Joh 10:11, 15; 12:25; 13:37, 38; 15:13; Ac 20:10. Bible texts like these help to show the correct understanding of Jesus’ words here.—See Glossary.

him who can destroy both soul and body: It is only God who is able to destroy a person’s “soul” (in this context, referring to his prospects for life) or who can resurrect him to enjoy everlasting life. This is one example of where the Greek word rendered “soul” is referred to as mortal and destructible. Other examples are Mr 3:4; Lu 17:33; Joh 12:25; Ac 3:23.

Gehenna: This means everlasting destruction.—See study note on Mt 5:22 and Glossary.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/b/r1/lp-e/nwtsty/40/10#s=28&study=discover

And I see you have nothing to say about your inaccurate translation...

Matthew 10:28
Don't be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
The BODY isn't the soul. And the SOUL isn't the body. They are BOTH!

 

[redbeer]

Of course...they will never have a resurrection...they're dead...


No they wouldn't, they'd agree with me...people like you make a big deal about the irrelevant...I think I know better than you...


Yes, He is but if David was speaking of Jehovah Himself, his comments would all be in the 1st person, like in verse 8...he did not so he is speaking of Jehovah's holy spirit...he makes the distinction...your/you...



7 Where can I escape from your spirit,
where can I run away from your face?+

8 If I were to ascend to heaven, you would be there,
And if I were to make my bed in the Grave,* look! you would be there.+


Here ya go, more accurate translations...


World English Bible
Don't be afraid of those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul. Rather, fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

A Faithful Version
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body, but do not have power to destroy the life; rather, fear Him Who has the power to destroy both life and body in Gehenna.

Literal Standard Version
And do not be afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Berean Literal Bible
And you should not be afraid of those killing the body but not being able to kill the soul. Indeed rather you should fear the One being able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Young's Literal Translation
'And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
“And you shall not be afraid of those who kill the body that are not able to kill the soul; rather be afraid of him who can destroy soul and body in Gehenna.”

Mace New Testament
fear not those who can only kill the body, but cannot hurt the soul: rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Weymouth New Testament
"And do not fear those who kill the body, but cannot kill the soul; but rather fear him who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.

Well, lookie here...the NWT says the same thing...imagine that...

"And do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul;+ rather, fear him who can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/bc/r1/lp-e/1001070123/2894

"Gehenna" has significance to Israel. First, we must go to where its' meaning comes from. Many years prior, the Israelites were fornicating with foreign gods, contrary to God's commandments and sacrificing their children to the false god Molech and burning them in fire. This incensed God, to wonder why they would do such a detestable thing, such terrible atrocities which never even entered into the heart or mind of God.

Later in time, it became the name "Gehenna" and it was the place outside the gates of Jerusalem where they would burn their refuse with a fire which was never quenched for they kept fueling it with garbage. Now, how this ended up being a place God made where the immortal souls of sinners would go and suffer in fire for an eternity is beyond scripture and comes from other false religions mixed into Christianity.

Seems God's people keep doing/teachings things contrary to God's character. Simply look at the life of Christ and it's clearly seen that this idea of a God who will burn and torture His creation for a literal eternity is ridiculous, unscriptural and shows great disrespect not only to God, but Christ, His Son who came to reveal to us this One True God.

 

[Daisy]

And the SOUL isn't the body. They are BOTH!

Now you're talkin'...you've finally seen the light! One can be a living soul or a dead soul...it is the whole being...