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The EV revolution is stalling out. Blame prices and infrastructure

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the wave of the future? maybe -but not now
Making matters worse for potential buyers, many EVs are likely to get a lot more expensive. Spooked by the potential of cheap Chinese cars flooding the market, the Biden administration has increased the tax rate on imported EVs to 102.5% this year from 27.5% before. Morgan Stanley research suggests that the move could slow the incursion of Chinese EVs into the United States.

According to recent research by Harvard Business School, one in five charging points across the U.S. don’t work.
Layer on top a bubbling geopolitical trade war—as the U.S. and European Union introduce import tariffs on Chinese-made vehicles—and you begin to see strong headwinds against making the leap to buy an already more-expensive car than its fuel-chugging equivalent.
While parts shortages have hit all vehicles, including gas cars, it’s the computer chips and batteries that power EVs that are in acute short supply.

there would need to be an astronomical increase in the number of charging points built in the U.S. to meet forecast demand by 2030, according to Loren McDonald of industry analysts EVAdoption. In all, 2.8 million stations could be needed by 2030, according to EVAdoption.

BloombergNEF analysts recently slashed their outlook for sales of EVs through 2026 by 13%. (Plug-in hybrid vehicles could still see growth, the researchers suggested.)
 
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I can't wait to go electric! I'm holding out for the VW BUS!

Hope we find a solution, and continue to move on and get rid of this pollution causes fuel. We can barely breathe in my city!
 
BloombergNEF analysts recently slashed their outlook for sales of EVs through 2026 by 13%. (Plug-in hybrid vehicles could still see growth, the researchers suggested.)


Looks like there was even bigger, 25%, slow down from 2018 to 2019! And somehow we will be fine.


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the wave of the future? maybe -but not now
Making matters worse for potential buyers, many EVs are likely to get a lot more expensive. Spooked by the potential of cheap Chinese cars flooding the market, the Biden administration has increased the tax rate on imported EVs to 102.5% this year from 27.5% before. Morgan Stanley research suggests that the move could slow the incursion of Chinese EVs into the United States.

According to recent research by Harvard Business School, one in five charging points across the U.S. don’t work.
Layer on top a bubbling geopolitical trade war—as the U.S. and European Union introduce import tariffs on Chinese-made vehicles—and you begin to see strong headwinds against making the leap to buy an already more-expensive car than its fuel-chugging equivalent.
While parts shortages have hit all vehicles, including gas cars, it’s the computer chips and batteries that power EVs that are in acute short supply.

there would need to be an astronomical increase in the number of charging points built in the U.S. to meet forecast demand by 2030, according to Loren McDonald of industry analysts EVAdoption. In all, 2.8 million stations could be needed by 2030, according to EVAdoption.

BloombergNEF analysts recently slashed their outlook for sales of EVs through 2026 by 13%. (Plug-in hybrid vehicles could still see growth, the researchers suggested.)
see, you can find anything on the interwebs that supports your agenda


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see, you can find anything on the interwebs that supports your agenda


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you have to look at the current market conditions, The OP explains the trend
EV sales dropped 11,3% in March across the EU, while purchases in Germany slumped 28,9%.


This comes after Chinese EV manufacturers targeted European markets to benefit from the continent’s progressive green agenda. The European Council passed a law requiring all new cars and vans sold on the continent to be zero-emission by 2035.


New cars sold must cut emissions by 55% from 2030-34 compared with 2021 under the new regulations, and vans must achieve a 50% reduction.


EU politicians are discussing whether to impose import tariffs to counter China’s state subsidies for its EV industry, which is forecast to account for 25% of all electric car sales in 2024.
 
Maybe sales would really grow if they were to throw in a 7KW generator on a trailer.
 
Biden will get those car chargers in when Cowmala gets us the report on root cause of illegal migration.
 
you have to look at the current market conditions, The OP explains the trend
EV sales dropped 11,3% in March across the EU, while purchases in Germany slumped 28,9%.


This comes after Chinese EV manufacturers targeted European markets to benefit from the continent’s progressive green agenda. The European Council passed a law requiring all new cars and vans sold on the continent to be zero-emission by 2035.


New cars sold must cut emissions by 55% from 2030-34 compared with 2021 under the new regulations, and vans must achieve a 50% reduction.


EU politicians are discussing whether to impose import tariffs to counter China’s state subsidies for its EV industry, which is forecast to account for 25% of all electric car sales in 2024.
Gee, somebody should warn all those car companies that have been in the business for a hundred years that their engineers are wrong, all of them.
Not ten minutes ago there was a commercial on for electric Mustangs and F150's.
 
I just bought a 2023 Bolt EUV for $18,000 and it has about 250 miles of range. I charge at my apartment for free and you only need charging infrastructure at all for driving well out of town. And maintenance costs are so much lower.

Plus EV only parking spots are like handicap spots almost.

I honestly feels the opposite of range anxiety and more secure knowing I can get good charge overnight even from a normal wall outlet. When storms/flooding hit FL fuel trucks can’t get through and we’ve had periods were the gas stations run out or get really expensive.

Personally I think most people underestimate how nice charging at home and not ever needing to go to gas stations is.
 
We'll work it out because our lungs need us to get on board.
Typically EV's produce lower tailpipe emissions than gas fueled vehicles do, and zero tailpipe emissions when running on electricity alone.

Our cities are polluted, we need solutions so we stop killing ourselves.
 
Biden will get those car chargers in when Cowmala gets us the report on root cause of illegal migration.
What a stupid post.
You lot are letting Trump turn you into a passel of loudmouth, dimwitted teenagers.
Cowmala, fer****sakes.
 
What a stupid post.
You lot are letting Trump turn you into a passel of loudmouth, dimwitted teenagers.
Cowmala, fer****sakes.
What Trumps base has learned from Trump is "name calling" is the cool thing to do.

Indeed, not high on mosts list of accomplishment but I digress.
 
EVs are a fad that will eventually pass. Inferior and costlier tech.
They're gonna be sooo embarrassed in Dearborn and Stuttgart, not to mention Tokyo.
Maybe you should explain it to them.
 
What a stupid post.
You lot are letting Trump turn you into a passel of loudmouth, dimwitted teenagers.
Cowmala, fer****sakes.
Orange Man?

Darn teenagers

Anyway, she could win an apple eating contest.

There's a joke in there somewhere about an orange man in White County but I can't find it.
 
the wave of the future? maybe -but not now
Making matters worse for potential buyers, many EVs are likely to get a lot more expensive. Spooked by the potential of cheap Chinese cars flooding the market, the Biden administration has increased the tax rate on imported EVs to 102.5% this year from 27.5% before. Morgan Stanley research suggests that the move could slow the incursion of Chinese EVs into the United States.

According to recent research by Harvard Business School, one in five charging points across the U.S. don’t work.
Layer on top a bubbling geopolitical trade war—as the U.S. and European Union introduce import tariffs on Chinese-made vehicles—and you begin to see strong headwinds against making the leap to buy an already more-expensive car than its fuel-chugging equivalent.
While parts shortages have hit all vehicles, including gas cars, it’s the computer chips and batteries that power EVs that are in acute short supply.

there would need to be an astronomical increase in the number of charging points built in the U.S. to meet forecast demand by 2030, according to Loren McDonald of industry analysts EVAdoption. In all, 2.8 million stations could be needed by 2030, according to EVAdoption.

BloombergNEF analysts recently slashed their outlook for sales of EVs through 2026 by 13%. (Plug-in hybrid vehicles could still see growth, the researchers suggested.)
The article noted real issues, but it's not gloom and doom. How to compete with the CCP is an enduring problem for the free world. Charging infrastructure needs improvement. The article also notes a parity in cost because both EVs and ICE vehicles have specific benefits and drawbacks.

The technology is certainly not dead nor dying. How fast the transition occurs remains to be seen, but it's not going away.
 
the wave of the future? maybe -but not now
Making matters worse for potential buyers, many EVs are likely to get a lot more expensive. Spooked by the potential of cheap Chinese cars flooding the market, the Biden administration has increased the tax rate on imported EVs to 102.5% this year from 27.5% before. Morgan Stanley research suggests that the move could slow the incursion of Chinese EVs into the United States.

According to recent research by Harvard Business School, one in five charging points across the U.S. don’t work.
Not only.

Biden-favored California EV startup Fisker files for bankruptcy​

The company said “macroeconomic headwinds” prevented the company from operating efficiently, and selling its assets under Chapter 11 is the most viable option for the company to move forward.​

In addition:

White House 'Equity' Requirements Holding Back EV Charging Station Construction, Internal Docs Show
In 2021, the Biden administration pledged it would build 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations by 2030. So far, it’s built seven.​

Supported by:

Biden’s $7.5 billion investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years​


Biden's own regulations are preventing their installing charging points.

Layer on top a bubbling geopolitical trade war—as the U.S. and European Union introduce import tariffs on Chinese-made vehicles—and you begin to see strong headwinds against making the leap to buy an already more-expensive car than its fuel-chugging equivalent.
While parts shortages have hit all vehicles, including gas cars, it’s the computer chips and batteries that power EVs that are in acute short supply.

there would need to be an astronomical increase in the number of charging points built in the U.S. to meet forecast demand by 2030, according to Loren McDonald of industry analysts EVAdoption. In all, 2.8 million stations could be needed by 2030, according to EVAdoption.

BloombergNEF analysts recently slashed their outlook for sales of EVs through 2026 by 13%. (Plug-in hybrid vehicles could still see growth, the researchers suggested.)
 
Can you imagine what I-4 would have looked like if everyone in Tampa had been forced to drive an EV during the Hurricane Idalia evacuation?

I will keep my F-250 to tow the boat and camper and big block Corvette (with sidepipes) for fun. Ain’t America great?
 
Can you imagine what I-4 would have looked like if everyone in Tampa had been forced to drive an EV during the Hurricane Idalia evacuation?

I will keep my F-250 to tow the boat and camper and big block Corvette (with sidepipes) for fun. Ain’t America great?
+1 on the F-250 Super Duty 6.7 Turbo-Diesel. (y) Love my 2012
 
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Not only.

Biden-favored California EV startup Fisker files for bankruptcy​

The company said “macroeconomic headwinds” prevented the company from operating efficiently, and selling its assets under Chapter 11 is the most viable option for the company to move forward.​
Lots of companies file for bankruptcy. Lots of others succeed.




In addition:

White House 'Equity' Requirements Holding Back EV Charging Station Construction, Internal Docs Show
In 2021, the Biden administration pledged it would build 500,000 electric vehicle charging stations by 2030. So far, it’s built seven.​

Supported by:

Biden’s $7.5 billion investment in EV charging has only produced 7 stations in two years​


Biden's own regulations are preventing their installing charging points.
 
you have to look at the current market conditions, The OP explains the trend
EV sales dropped 11,3% in March across the EU, while purchases in Germany slumped 28,9%.


This comes after Chinese EV manufacturers targeted European markets to benefit from the continent’s progressive green agenda. The European Council passed a law requiring all new cars and vans sold on the continent to be zero-emission by 2035.


New cars sold must cut emissions by 55% from 2030-34 compared with 2021 under the new regulations, and vans must achieve a 50% reduction.


EU politicians are discussing whether to impose import tariffs to counter China’s state subsidies for its EV industry, which is forecast to account for 25% of all electric car sales in 2024.
Those drops were in the EU and Germany. We dont live there.

You're just going to have to deal with the fact that EV's are here to stay and they are the future.
 
Can you imagine what I-4 would have looked like if everyone in Tampa had been forced to drive an EV during the Hurricane Idalia evacuation?

I will keep my F-250 to tow the boat and camper and big block Corvette (with sidepipes) for fun. Ain’t America great?
man! you just burned all of us liberals. Man, brutal.

you dumb post is just that, dumb. No one cares how big the "unit" is.
 
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