Sherman123
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It's not nice to mess with mother nature. Mother nature always has a reaction to a man made reaction.
I thought you said you understood symbiotic relationships?
Your post seems to reflect entirely disregarding such.
Yields must be balanced with propagating healthy soil, and frankly concern for the soil itself must come first.
Feed the worms and they will do the rest has always been my approach to growing and my yields are amazing.
I think your just trying to find any excuse to get out of doing the work yourself.
I think when the system shuts down, the people who choose as you apparently have will be very hungry, better not let'm take your gun cuz your gonna need it when you come for my food
First thing is a ballot measure cannot change patent law.
To amend patent law at this point it would take either the Mother of all civil law suits (the likes of which has yet to be dreamed of let alone filed) to overturn existing case law or an Act of congress and congress wont act on such because Monsanto et al has well feathered that nest with enough layers including the trump card of contracting for 'national security' projects etc to be safe/protected from any such efforts.
What about diversity? Life continues on in part due to its diverse nature, like if you were trying to cover all your bets, wont you lose as well if that diversity is manipulated into monopoly? We live in symbiotic relationships with all other life, even if that life sees us as lunch, but this issue has no relation to self defense no matter how sweet Monsanto et al says their candy is, this issue is about nothing less than central control and ultimate power.
"I have similar issues with music riffs, too"
Genetic engineering from Monsanto et al is to nature what Hitler was to music shall we say in that it all had to be approved by the state.
NAZI APPROVED MUSIC
Under the Nazi regime, all music produced had to fit within certain standards defined as "good" German music. Suppression of specific artists and their works was common, yet musicians were permitted limited artistic freedom. The Nazis attempted to create a balance between censorship and creativity in music to appease the German people.
This blend of art and politics led to a three-prong policy regarding musicians and artists:
Loyal Nazi members who were talented musicians were guaranteed a job.
Loyal Nazi members who were not talented musicians were not guaranteed a job.
Any non-Jewish person who demonstrated a "genius" for music and was a member of the Reichsmusikkammer (Reich Music Chamber) was permitted employment. This exception in policy permitted musicians like conductor Wilhelm Furtwangler and composer Richard Strauss to continue working.
Music Approved of by the Third Reich
Art of the Holocaust
Music and Politics in Hitler’s Germany:
http://web.jmu.edu/history/mhr/Cathcart/Cathcart.pdf
The Downside of Human Genetic Engineering
Human Genetic Engineering Cons: Why This Branch of Science is so Controversial
Arguing For and Against Genetic Engineering
Arguing For and Against Genetic Engineering
I don't think of them as symbiotic, since that's a very specific biological term, but, yes, I do understand the inter-relationships between species.I thought you said you understood symbiotic relationships?
Your post seems to reflect entirely disregarding such.
Yields must be balanced with propagating healthy soil, and frankly concern for the soil itself must come first.
Feed the worms and they will do the rest has always been my approach to growing and my yields are amazing.
I think your just trying to find any excuse to get out of doing the work yourself.
Again you have no clue. I own no guns and when I shoot animals at all it's with a camera. However, my hunting friends (and the family farmer!) take up the slack for me and keep the deer population in check. Otherwise there would be no food for anyone.I think when the system shuts down, the people who choose as you apparently have will be very hungry, better not let'm take your gun cuz your gonna need it when you come for my food
That is part of nature's plan. There are many good guy bacteria.
Viruses? Maybe used to control over population by man. Size does not matter to nature.
Maintaining healthy top-soil content and silt deposits is very important for agriculture. Luckily we can maintain enormous yields on a constant basis (we no longer have to leave fields lying fallow) because of our abundant access to agricultural chemicals and increasing advances in engineered crops. It is a problem that we will continue to grapple with but we will have to overcome, and I see no reason that we wont.
Right. We should never have built houses, never tilled fields, never experimented with crop modification (which goes back thousands of years and is a direct contributor to civilization), never created vaccines, never dicked around with penicillin, never touched chemistry, etc etc etc. This kind of absurd naturalistic fallacy is the extreme of ridiculousness.
Dude you are a lunatic.
I don't think of them as symbiotic, since that's a very specific biological term, but, yes, I do understand the inter-relationships between species.
Not at all. You're talking about those idiot industrial farm corps, not the family farmer. Family farmers pass farms down through the generations. They are VERY careful about the land and soil since they expect it to be in the family for generations - unlike your 0.1 acre subdivision plot that people buy and sell by the thousands per day. Get your facts straight, dude.
Again you have no clue. I own no guns and when I shoot animals at all it's with a camera. However, my hunting friends (and the family farmer!) take up the slack for me and keep the deer population in check. Otherwise there would be no food for anyone.
I voted no because the only part of the proposal I agree with is that DNA shouldn't fall under intellectual property law. I have similar issues with music riffs, too.
I don't think of them as symbiotic, since that's a very specific biological term, but, yes, I do understand the inter-relationships between species.
Not at all. You're talking about those idiot industrial farm corps, not the family farmer. Family farmers pass farms down through the generations. They are VERY careful about the land and soil since they expect it to be in the family for generations - unlike your 0.1 acre subdivision plot that people buy and sell by the thousands per day. Get your facts straight, dude.
Again you have no clue. I own no guns and when I shoot animals at all it's with a camera. However, my hunting friends (and the family farmer!) take up the slack for me and keep the deer population in check. Otherwise there would be no food for anyone.
Nature does not have a plan. 'Nature' is not a conscience anthropomorphic thing, nor is it a force. It is simply the word we use to explain the natural rules, laws, and orders of the Universe. This includes physics, biology, chemistry, everything. It is a catchall word that too many new-ager's have stolen to mean whatever pseudoreligious thing they want.
So my answer to that is this: "Nature" can go screw itself. Mankind should do whatever is within its power to make life more prosperous, healthy, and fulfilling that it can. This means taming nature, down from the smallest microbe to the sun of our stellar system. The glory of mankind is our mastery of the Universe and the march of technology.
Ignorant anti-science nonsense. Here's a specific example of genetic engineering: Bananas.
You know what also has unintended consequences?
Everything.
You are using words that in english have an actual definition, but when you arrange them the way you do and with the videos scattered on top it just looks like gibberish.
Maybe you should order me to be arrested and executed as a savage?
Or maybe your statement shows all the signs of denial in a desperate paranoid delusional attempt to regain command of the battle?
Everything about this thread is about a simple story as easy as adding 123 and it all goes to your conscience...that place where when I refer to it you undoubtedly wonder what I mean.
I hereby order you to be arrested and executed as a savage.
Be careful with whom you ally with.
This thread is supported by nothing other than, "nature knows better."
Which is a faulty premise.
Ally? Really? No one on this site it my ally or enemy, I just post here.
OMG I love the G man, but as you can imagine I'm especially partial to harpo, not sure of your intent here though, is this video an original thought for you? did my sentence trigger such? lol...have you even read the thread?
Lets take some stock of this site shall we, so far i've had two mods warn me to 'shape up or ship out' in pm's and a gang'o mods on this thread clearly trying to intimidate me and others from even taking part with an opinion...this is a development I actually did not anticipate when designing this thread challenge to conscience and ideology, but it goes even further to demonstrate not just whats going on at this forum, but it reflects on how the corpsgov/USA interacts with the rest of the world.
The tactic taken above by Goshin is as old and tainted as toilet paper that's been reused by every modern day master racer on the circuit and seems to rely more on font size then debunking 'lies'...you and your gang have been stripped naked and clearly exposed for the type of folks you are so I think you'll need to do a little better than that Goshin lol...
Except for the lack fibers, which is countered by it's use as a food and feed/hay/straw, alfalfa is also an excellent crop for rotation."How hemp helps restore soil fertility"
How hemp helps restore soil fertility
"Building Soil Health"
http://www.columbiaccd.org/diversity_to_improve_soil_joel_hunter.pdf
I'm sorry if my long-distance ESP isn't up to your standards but on the Internet one never knows if a comment is ignorance, sarcasm, or bigotry. It's not like a can see your frowning forehead or maybe that half-grin you might have when you type it. So, what's the problem with making things clear - just to be sure?The gun remark was sarcasm and its irrelevant to whether you personally own a gun...if you couldn't understand even that, how in the world could you ever expect to respond in any coherent way to anything I write?
"Defending suicidal behaviors"? By saying industrial farms are run by a bunch of idiots? Or by wanting to reduce the use of herbicides and pesticides? LOL!Get my facts right? WTH are talking about? I'm the one arguing for families to grow their own and you are the one defending all other suicidal behaviors in terms of farming etc...lol
Its hard to stay on whatever page you keep turning to in your mind...
And here he just slammed me for not getting HIS humor. Interesting, isn't it? LOL!It's called humor... possibly you've encountered the concept at some point in your life.
Or perhaps not.... zealots rarely do.
It's called humor... possibly you've encountered the concept at some point in your life.
Or perhaps not.... zealots rarely do.
Except for the lack fibers, which is countered by it's use as a food and feed/hay/straw, alfalfa is also an excellent crop for rotation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfalfa
I'm sorry if my long-distance ESP isn't up to your standards but on the Internet one never knows if a comment is ignorance, sarcasm, or bigotry. It's not like a can see your frowning forehead or maybe that half-grin you might have when you type it. So, what's the problem with making things clear - just to be sure?
"Defending suicidal behaviors"? By saying industrial farms are run by a bunch of idiots? Or by wanting to reduce the use of herbicides and pesticides? LOL!
lol maybe that explains why you don't get mine?
That response was called sarcastic humor and Oh my Goshin you missed it by a long shot.
Modern day Nazi sympathizers often do.
Pardon, are you calling me a Nazi sympathizer?
Really?
Well your credibility just went flush down the ol' WC.
Pardon, are you calling me a Nazi sympathizer?
Really?
Well your credibility just went flush down the ol' WC.
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