The Decline of Anti-Trumpism

[ataraxia]

Why does the Right fear formal education? I believe their Dear Leader attended one of those Elitist East Coast Schools. Incidentally, that was the last time Trump read a book, other than The Con of the Deal.

Whoever actually gave him a diploma oughta be shot. He uses the grammar and vocabulary of a 5th grader. No way he should have even gotten INTO college, let alone allowed to graduate. How much you wanna bet daddy greased some palms to make that happen?

 

[yankintx]

"Formal Education" you mean those Marxist indoctrination courses that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and provide no practical career/job skills, that make a person dumber coming out than they were going in?

Two words stood out in your post; Marxist and dumber. You must have gone to Trump University:2wave:

 

[ataraxia]

"Formal Education" you mean those Marxist indoctrination courses that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and provide no practical career/job skills, that make a person dumber coming out than they were going in?

Yeah, they indoctrinate them by teaching them that the Earth is not 6000 years old, trickle down economics doesn't work, the founding fathers wanted separation of church and state, and global warming is not a Chinese hoax.OUTRAGE

 

[Tanngrisnir]

"Formal Education" you mean those Marxist indoctrination courses that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and provide no practical career/job skills, that make a person dumber coming out than they were going in?

You should really learn what 'Marxist' means before trying to use it and embarrassing yourself.

 

[yankintx]

Leftist Ideology is the religion of American Progressive/Liberal/Socialists.

The obvious policy successes of President Trump so easily compared to the obvious policy failures of Obama is destroying that religion, and it's driving them insane.

How was that ACA repeal and replace ?:2wave:

I got all my marbles, your boy, not so much:lamo

 

[Casca XV]

Yeah, they indoctrinate them by teaching them that the Earth is not 6000 years old, trickle down economics doesn't work, the founding fathers wanted separation of church and state, and global warming is not a Chinese hoax.OUTRAGE

The concept that the Earth is only 6000 years old is almost but not quite as stupid the idea that Marxist Socialism is a viable economic policy.

Trickle Down AKA Supply Side economics doesn't work? You obviously are not paying much attention to current events.

Yes, the Founding Fathers wanted Separation of Church and state. But what most Leftist lie about is what it means. The phrase was not in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights. It was in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a Baptist Minister explaining that the 1st Amendment is meant to protect the Church form the State not visa versa.

Al Gores concept of manmade Global Warming is defiantly a hoax. I disagree with President Trump that its from China.

 

[Casca XV]

How was that ACA repeal and replace ?:2wave:

I got all my marbles, your boy, not so much:lamo

ACA? oh you mean Obamacare, that is now as dead as dogs**t with the mandate to buy insurance now outlawed under the new Trump tax law.

Of course President Trump effectively neutered it 7 months ago when he announced he would instruct the IRS not to enforce the Obamacare mandate. One of the biggest reason the economy is doing so well.

 

[Casca XV]

You should really learn what 'Marxist' means before trying to use it and embarrassing yourself.

"Embarrassing" what did you finally find your big words dictionary?

What do I know about Marxism......I know it's the basis of modern day Leftist Ideology. I also know that over the last 100 years it has killed more people than were diagnosed to have died from cancer. "Kills more people than cancer." That says it all.

 

[Casper]

David Brooks at the New York Times writes about the decline of anti-Trumpism. And by decline he doesn't mean it's going away but that it's declining in quality and relevance.



But, David, David, when have Democrats ever not reduced everything to a fairy tale complete with unicorns and rainbows and a pie in the sky utopia off in the future somewhere? When have they ever not lied about and distorted the message of Republicans? The news is that conservatives like you, who yearn for the halcyon days of a classy blue blooded conservatism that never was, have joined them. You sold your soul for a neatly creased pants cuff, David.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/anti-trump-opposition.html?_r=0

I am sure glad you added your thoughtful and to the point opinion, even though it pure BS.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

"Embarrassing" what did you finally find your big words dictionary?

What do I know about Marxism......I know it's the basis of modern day Leftist Ideology. I also know that over the last 100 years it has killed more people than were diagnosed to have died from cancer. "Kills more people than cancer." That says it all.

So, IOW, you're openly admitted that you don't know squat about Marxism.

Thanks for coming clean about that so quickly.

 

[Casca XV]

So, IOW, you're openly admitted that you don't know squat about Marxism.

Thanks for coming clean about that so quickly.

Wow you just did a Snopes. Misquote or take a comment out of context to make your point.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Wow you just did a Snopes. Misquote or take a comment out of context to make your point.

No, nothing's out of context. You blathered about Marxism and tried to pretend you know what it means. I pointed that out.

Nothing was misquoted.

 

[Casca XV]

No, nothing's out of context. You blathered about Marxism and tried to pretend you know what it means. I pointed that out.

Nothing was misquoted.

Oh, please educate me what does it mean, and clearly explain how I misused the term?

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Oh, please educate me what does it mean, and clearly explain how I misused the term?

Why would I? You're not interested in knowing, it would be a waste of time and it would serve no purpose?

You misused it in the very first post of yours that I replied to here.

""Formal Education" you mean those Marxist indoctrination courses that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and provide no practical career/job skills, that make a person dumber coming out than they were going in? "

There are no such Marxist indoctrination courses, nor can you demonstrate that there are.

Game. Set. Match.

 

[Casca XV]

Why would I? You're not interested in knowing, it would be a waste of time and it would serve no purpose?

You misused it in the very first post of yours that I replied to here.

""Formal Education" you mean those Marxist indoctrination courses that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and provide no practical career/job skills, that make a person dumber coming out than they were going in? "

There are no such Marxist indoctrination courses, nor can you demonstrate that there are.

Game. Set. Match.

No, there are no courses called Marxist Indoctrination. Being purposely obtuse is a current Leftist tactic to finagle in an unwinnable argument.

Most American Leftist don't like being called Marxists for the same reason most White Supremacists don't like being called Nazis.

Every useless liberal arts program today has a Marxist core to it. The Marxism is mixed into subjects like Gender Studies or Ethnic Studies. Try to get a job with a degree in one of those especially after being taught that the free market is evil.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

No, there are no courses called Marxist Indoctrination. Being purposely obtuse is a current Leftist tactic to finagle in an unwinnable argument.

Ah, good, than you admit you lied in that statement I cited. Excellent.

Most American Leftist don't like being called Marxists for the same reason most White Supremacists don't like being called Nazis.

So, again, you admit you have no idea what Marxism is.

Every useless liberal arts program today has a Marxist core to it. The Marxism is mixed into subjects like Gender Studies or Ethnic Studies. Try to get a job with a degree in one of those especially after being taught that the free market is evil.

So, yet again and in the same post, you trumpet from the rooftops that you don't know what Marxism is.

Thanks again for proving my point.

 

[RAMOSS]

So, yet again and in the same post, you trumpet from the rooftops that you don't know what Marxism is.

Thanks again for proving my point.

I love Marxism. My favorite Marx quote is 'Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.'

And

'Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.'

 

[Puigb]

If you read closely, I said MODERATES and independents.

The Democrats could lose both and win elections. The Republicans can't.

 

[Dirt Sands]

Your confidence is evidence you are ignoring history. The Dems said the EXACT same thing in 2010.:lamo What Alabama has shown is that the Dem machine is taking nothing for granted and got out their vote, something they failed to do Nov 2016, lesson learned. We shall see how many of these GOP incumbents distance themselves from Trump.

I believe you stated you were a Democrat, you sure don't sound like one, but whatever.:roll:

I'm such a Democrat that I've never even voted for a person, ever. I'm a straight party voter. I just see things by surrounding the issue, or issues. Jones doesn't have a prayer in the next election. If I'm not mistaken, Sessions won by 23 % the last time. If I'm wrong, I apologize. I should have googled it first. Clearly Alabama is totally red.

When people can't predict was going to happen it's because they aren't looking at the totallity of the facts. For instance, Trump's at 40%, which means his support is etching up, not much, but still up. By dividing us, he's actually gaining support.

Reagan was famous for asking voters "are you better off now than you were four years ago". Voters could say they are, don't you think that's possible? Also, many of the bad things Trump is for, doesn't negatively effect them, like the wall. When it comes right down to it, alot of people don't, and won't, give a ****. How does opening up Anwar negatively effect someone?

Trump won because people agreed with him. Many still do.

About this investigation, as I said a couple of weeks ago, every day I wake up, there's another negative story about it. Just pay attention to the next news story, which will be tomorrow. With every bad thing said about Trump, it doesn't move people. There are no more people believing Trump is a criminal today, than at the beginning of all this. But, many more people believe Trump's getting a bad wrap. Even Alan Derschowitz believes if Trump colluded with the Russians, it wasn't a crime. And then, so many people think that all politicians are crooks. So if he's guilty of lying to the feds, many will think that's just par for the course. If it's not significant, for example, that he laundered money from the Russian mafia, then Trump ain't goin' nowhere. He probably thought he was beating the system, by getting help from the Russians. Did he even know Russia is an enemy? Clinton and Yeltsin had a good relationship so he may not have known. Remember, he's an idiot. America is great again. It's hard to argue were not. Its inspite of him, however. We were already great.

I so hope for a big win this year, buts it won't happen. All those midterm elections were voters turned on the party in charge will absolutely not happen this time around. Who is the leader of the democratic party? You see? The Republicans oppostion, the Democrats, are still notoriously bad at the game of politics. For instance, the DACAs. The Dems can be painted as holding up the budget for foreigners. What if somebody asks "why can't they hold the budget up for me"? Trump even gets to play like he "loves the DACAs", when you and I know he doesn't give a crap about them. But, he gets to win at politics.

This is just an honest assessment.

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[Moderate Right]

The Democrats could lose both and win elections. The Republicans can't.

Well, that's just not true. More people identify themselves as "conservative" than they do liberal. Independents and moderates on both sides are the ones who actually decide elections. That's why Trump won, because voters are disgusted with both Democrats and Republicans. That was Hillary's fatal mistake. She was so busy laughing at "Republicans" voting for Trump as their nominee that she failed to realize that "Democrats" didn't really want to vote for Democrats either. If there was no such thing as superdelegates, and Hillary and the DNC rigging the election, Bernie (the Independent) would have been up against Trump the "Nationalist/Populist) in the general.

 

[Fiddytree]

Yes, elitism runs with leftist thinking.

Elitism has become a needed thing. But I'm not much of a left-wing elitist, considering I have a great many beefs with the anti-intellectualism found in trendy leftism and new age hippies.

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[Fiddytree]

I love Marxism. My favorite Marx quote is 'Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.'

And

'Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read.'

Or, "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don’t let that fool you, he really is an idiot."

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[Fiddytree]

Well, that's just not true. More people identify themselves as "conservative" than they do liberal. Independents and moderates on both sides are the ones who actually decide elections. That's why Trump won, because voters are disgusted with both Democrats and Republicans. That was Hillary's fatal mistake. She was so busy laughing at "Republicans" voting for Trump as their nominee that she failed to realize that "Democrats" didn't really want to vote for Democrats either. If there was no such thing as superdelegates, and Hillary and the DNC rigging the election, Bernie (the Independent) would have been up against Trump the "Nationalist/Populist) in the general.

A couple issues.

1) Before the inauguration, indeed more Americans identified as conservative than liberal. However, the gap was narrowing rather than maintaining or increasing. Meanwhile the share of independents and/or moderates was shrinking. Further the definition of independent has come under scrutiny in recent years. We are seeing a phenomena where indendent really means "I'm a conservative/liberal, but I don't think my party is going far enough that direction." The moderate vote, if you will, shrunk.
U.S. Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin

This was making partisans, of which I am not, make a somewhat convincing case that it's largely a game of playing to the bases now. And I don't think Clinton's popular vote plurality is going to change that for the party. I wish it wasn't so, but, you folks have made it so.

2) Hillary Clinton was going to win the primary no matter what, sans any consideration of superdelegates and DNC internal politics. The vote totals and struggles of Sanders with women and minority voters was becoming a hard and fast rule (less so with younger voters, however).

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[Moderate Right]

A couple issues.

1) Before the inauguration, indeed more Americans identified as conservative than liberal. However, the gap was narrowing rather than maintaining or increasing. Meanwhile the share of independents and/or moderates was shrinking. Further the definition of independent has come under scrutiny in recent years. We are seeing a phenomena where indendent really means "I'm a conservative/liberal, but I don't think my party is going far enough that direction." The moderate vote, if you will, shrunk.
U.S. Conservatives Outnumber Liberals by Narrowing Margin

This was making partisans, of which I am not, make a somewhat convincing case that it's largely a game of playing to the bases now. And I don't think Clinton's popular vote plurality is going to change that for the party. I wish it wasn't so, but, you folks have made it so.

2) Hillary Clinton was going to win the primary no matter what, sans any consideration of superdelegates and DNC internal politics. The vote totals and struggles of Sanders with women and minority voters was becoming a hard and fast rule (less so with younger voters, however).

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I appreciate you not offering up partisan garbage. However, I do believe some of your analysis is wrong. Yes, the conservative/liberal percentage has shrunk, although conservatives do still outnumber liberals. I'm not so sure that the independent/moderate "base" has shrunk, even though you could argue that and maybe even back it up with some stats. But, many independents/moderates have been forced by both parties to choose sides and if the environment was right, they could easily bale from their perspective sides and go back to being independent/moderate once again. The fact that Trump was elected I believe was the result of both Democrats and Republicans not wanting to vote for their own party so they voted for Trump. Trump represented a third party. I also seriously question whether Hillary would have won if not for her and the DNC rigging the election and the superdelegates.

 

[Linc]

Chocolate messiah? What're you, the cum-skinned prophet?

Imagine our orange ****hole in chief honoring the chocolate MLK Jr today.

Quite a way to honor the 50th anniversary of assassinating MLK Jr, still a popular assassination with trump's base ,,,