The Decline of Anti-Trumpism

[LowDown]

David Brooks at the New York Times writes about the decline of anti-Trumpism. And by decline he doesn't mean it's going away but that it's declining in quality and relevance.

...the anti-Trump movement, of which I’m a proud member, seems to be getting dumber. It seems to be settling into a smug, fairy tale version of reality that filters out discordant information. More anti-Trumpers seem to be telling themselves a “Madness of King George” narrative: Trump is a semiliterate madman surrounded by sycophants who are morally, intellectually and psychologically inferior to people like us.

I’d like to think it’s possible to be fervently anti-Trump while also not reducing everything to a fairy tale.

But, David, David, when have Democrats ever not reduced everything to a fairy tale complete with unicorns and rainbows and a pie in the sky utopia off in the future somewhere? When have they ever not lied about and distorted the message of Republicans? The news is that conservatives like you, who yearn for the halcyon days of a classy blue blooded conservatism that never was, have joined them. You sold your soul for a neatly creased pants cuff, David.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/anti-trump-opposition.html?_r=0

 

[Phys251]

David Brooks at the New York Times writes about the decline of anti-Trumpism. And by decline he doesn't mean it's going away but that it's declining in quality and relevance.



But, David, David, when have Democrats ever not reduced everything to a fairy tale complete with unicorns and rainbows and a pie in the sky utopia off in the future somewhere? When have they ever not lied about and distorted the message of Republicans? The news is that conservatives like you, who yearn for the halcyon days of a classy blue blooded conservatism that never was, have joined them. You sold your soul for a neatly creased pants cuff, David.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/anti-trump-opposition.html?_r=0

Oh please think that going into the midterm elections. Go ahead and underestimate how fired up we are. Please. I dare you.

 

[JackA]

David Brooks at the New York Times writes about the decline of anti-Trumpism. And by decline he doesn't mean it's going away but that it's declining in quality and relevance.



But, David, David, when have Democrats ever not reduced everything to a fairy tale complete with unicorns and rainbows and a pie in the sky utopia off in the future somewhere?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/anti-trump-opposition.html?_r=0

You mean like taking their news from the nytimes instead of FOX.

 

[tres borrachos]

David Brooks at the New York Times writes about the decline of anti-Trumpism. And by decline he doesn't mean it's going away but that it's declining in quality and relevance.



But, David, David, when have Democrats ever not reduced everything to a fairy tale complete with unicorns and rainbows and a pie in the sky utopia off in the future somewhere? When have they ever not lied about and distorted the message of Republicans? The news is that conservatives like you, who yearn for the halcyon days of a classy blue blooded conservatism that never was, have joined them. You sold your soul for a neatly creased pants cuff, David.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/anti-trump-opposition.html?_r=0

So the NY Times isn't peddling fake news today?

I'm getting vertigo from this. It's fake news. No it isn't! Yes it is! No it isn't (because today we like it!).

But I'll say one thing I agree with. That's the anti-Trumpers who think that Trump is a semiliterate madman surrounded by sycophants who are morally, intellectually, and psychologically inferior to people like us . He is, and he is. Steve Miller is a classic example of is #2. Trump proves #1 to be true every time he opens his eyes in the morning.

 

[chuckiechan]

David Brooks at the New York Times writes about the decline of anti-Trumpism. And by decline he doesn't mean it's going away but that it's declining in quality and relevance.



But, David, David, when have Democrats ever not reduced everything to a fairy tale complete with unicorns and rainbows and a pie in the sky utopia off in the future somewhere? When have they ever not lied about and distorted the message of Republicans? The news is that conservatives like you, who yearn for the halcyon days of a classy blue blooded conservatism that never was, have joined them. You sold your soul for a neatly creased pants cuff, David.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/anti-trump-opposition.html?_r=0

A ranking democrat talking head was seen wondering "What if the millennials see more money in their pockets and leave us?"

It's pointless to see the anti-tax lie when there are so many new ones to push!

 

[PeteEU]

It is increasing and the more the great cheeto says, the more it will increase. At some point, even the GOP congress will turn on him... if he either gets too hot to handle or refuses to implement their draconian ideas. Only reason he is still in the White House, is that they passed the disaster of a tax reformation. Had that failed, which it should have.. but of course the GOP rammed it through with no regard for procedure or democracy.. then he would be gone by now.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Oh please think that going into the midterm elections. Go ahead and underestimate how fired up we are. Please. I dare you.

:lamo

Good luck.

 

[yankintx]

:lamo

Good luck.

No luck required, the women in this country are fired up and Will be voting in Nov. You think the ***** grabber has increased his female base ?

 

[Fiddytree]

I think we can take Brooks down a notch or two in his appraisal of the situation. Brooks relies on the notion that there are two White Houses we are talking about: 1) the crazy one on t.v. 2) the (not his term) "deep state" getting along with the new boys White House.

To some extent this is true. There are a myriad of things the West Wing is up to, much of it deeply unsexy. The operations have also improved somewhat with Kelly at the helm at CoS.

The problem is that proportionately the normal operations of the White House are significantly less than they used to be with prior administrations, Republican and Democrat. The State Department remains a mess, with less of a goal in mind than some abstract notion of corporat-ish streamlining. Defense is chugging along fine. The HHS is doing okay, but certainly having a bit of an identity crisis, which wasn't helped with Price's scandal and departure. The Education Department is also having an identity crisis, extending so far into what DeVos even wants to accomplish. The administration has experienced an unusually high turn-over in the first year, at something like 35%.

Furthermore, the President matters. When the President makes the crazy White House Brooks sees, he still touches the silent one's work. When he issues contradictory demands or Senior officials contradict the contradictions, it creates problems for any administrative tasks. When administration officials get wrapped up in scandals as significant as the Mueller investigation (such as creating an atmosphere where people wonder who to trust or wondering if they need to protect themselves, or if their work is going to get passed over because of the need for constant damage control), it matters.



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[DamnYankee]

...the anti-Trump movement...seems to be getting dumber.

Keep up the good work.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

No luck required, the women in this country are fired up and Will be voting in Nov. You think the ***** grabber has increased his female base ?

Oh? Its a sure thing then! Good, go with all that confidence, it never hurt you in the past.

 

[Lutherf]

David Brooks at the New York Times writes about the decline of anti-Trumpism. And by decline he doesn't mean it's going away but that it's declining in quality and relevance.



But, David, David, when have Democrats ever not reduced everything to a fairy tale complete with unicorns and rainbows and a pie in the sky utopia off in the future somewhere? When have they ever not lied about and distorted the message of Republicans? The news is that conservatives like you, who yearn for the halcyon days of a classy blue blooded conservatism that never was, have joined them. You sold your soul for a neatly creased pants cuff, David.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/anti-trump-opposition.html?_r=0

When your argument has been reduced to "he's mentally unstable" you have lost.

 

[Dirt Sands]

Trump is gaining in popularity. There are also many people who believe in cherry picked issues. Many are in favor of a wall (both Hillary and Obama voted for funding for a fence), but not in favor of his tax reform. If the economy is doing well during the midterms, and it clearly will, they will vote Republican. Then you throw in how Democrats screw up politicking and you have a perfect storm for Trump. Ya, Trump and Republicans. But since no one sees it,. It most definitely will happen.

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[NeverTrump]

David Brooks at the New York Times writes about the decline of anti-Trumpism. And by decline he doesn't mean it's going away but that it's declining in quality and relevance.



But, David, David, when have Democrats ever not reduced everything to a fairy tale complete with unicorns and rainbows and a pie in the sky utopia off in the future somewhere? When have they ever not lied about and distorted the message of Republicans? The news is that conservatives like you, who yearn for the halcyon days of a classy blue blooded conservatism that never was, have joined them. You sold your soul for a neatly creased pants cuff, David.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/anti-trump-opposition.html?_r=0

Two words: Doug Jones


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[Tigerace117]

David Brooks at the New York Times writes about the decline of anti-Trumpism. And by decline he doesn't mean it's going away but that it's declining in quality and relevance.



But, David, David, when have Democrats ever not reduced everything to a fairy tale complete with unicorns and rainbows and a pie in the sky utopia off in the future somewhere? When have they ever not lied about and distorted the message of Republicans? The news is that conservatives like you, who yearn for the halcyon days of a classy blue blooded conservatism that never was, have joined them. You sold your soul for a neatly creased pants cuff, David.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/08/opinion/anti-trump-opposition.html?_r=0

Yep, Trump's supporters do fit the role of "moronic sycophants" quite well, and as for the rest, well, you Trump cultists' defense of his attacks on POWs is a clear sign of moral, intellectual, and psychological inferiority.

 

[yankintx]

Oh? Its a sure thing then! Good, go with all that confidence, it never hurt you in the past.

Thanks

 

[Dirt Sands]

Two words: Doug Jones


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This is what I'm talking about. The Doug Jones seat totally goes Republican. Any doubt? Republicans 1, Democrats 0.

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[yankintx]

Oh? Its a sure thing then! Good, go with all that confidence, it never hurt you in the past.

Most of America now knows Trump is a serial liar. Enjoy Nov 2018.

 

[yankintx]

Trump is gaining in popularity. There are also many people who believe in cherry picked issues. Many are in favor of a wall (both Hillary and Obama voted for funding for a fence), but not in favor of his tax reform. If the economy is doing well during the midterms, and it clearly will, they will vote Republican. Then you throw in how Democrats screw up politicking and you have a perfect storm for Trump. Ya, Trump and Republicans. But since no one sees it,. It most definitely will happen.

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You conveniently left out the Mueller factor, not surprised, click your heels together three times and see if the Russia investigation goes away.

 

[Dirt Sands]

You conveniently left out the Mueller factor, not surprised, click your heels together three times and see if the Russia investigation goes away.

You're right, not counting the truth, the politics of it are totally going in Trump's favor. You now have the right half of Congress believing that there getting the shaft. Imagine if the politics of such where Republicans want to distance themselves from an imploding president. They aren't. That's proof that Republicans are winning. Remember, after the verdict is read, the populace has to have confidence in the system; that the FBI and Mueller investigation we're fair. If they don't, please understand, Nothing Will Happen. My handycap has Trump up, not down.

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[yankintx]

You're right, not counting the truth, the politics of it are totally going in Trump's favor. You now have the right half of Congress believing that there getting the shaft. Imagine if the politics of such where Republicans want to distance themselves from an imploding president. They aren't. That's proof that Republicans are winning. Remember, after the verdict is read, the populace has to have confidence in the system; that the FBI and Mueller investigation we're fair. If they don't, please understand, Nothing Will Happen. My handycap has Trump up, not down.

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Time will tell if you are correct. I would not put a dime on the GOP keeping the House.

 

[DamnYankee]

When your argument has been reduced to "he's mentally unstable" you have lost.

Classic leftist attack. Every GOP'er president since the 60's have been "mentally unstable." It's become cliche. Normal people hear that and their eyes glaze over and the leftists get ignored.

 

[Lutherf]

Classic leftist attack. Every GOP'er president since the 60's have been "mentally unstable." It's become cliche. Normal people hear that and their eyes glaze over and the leftists get ignored.

It's a crock of a charge too. If you say "I'm not crazy" they call you a liar and if you admit to being crazy, well...

 

[Dirt Sands]

Time will tell if you are correct. I would not put a dime on the GOP keeping the House.

Here's a little data. Watch how this plays out. In the last election, 90% of all counties voted for one presidential candidate or another by more than 10%. This means that only 10% of counties voted for one candidate or the other by 10% or less. So unless, in 90% of the counties swing by more than 10%, the winner remains the same as 2016. Therefore, 10% of the counties, only 10%, have a fair chance to flip. Otherwise the shift in counties would have to be bigger than 10%. And that would have to be a tectonic shift. Politics have shifted, but I'm not seeing, even with all the crazy ****, that it matters to anybody that it didn't already matter to. Politically, him dividing the country has worked out very well for him. He's got his tax bill, has an effective foreign policy with enemies ( not with allies, but that's not my point), a booming economy, and he will get the wall. Next year is looking very good for Republicans and not the democrats. I'm a Democrat. This is just how I see it.

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[yankintx]

Here's a little data. Watch how this plays out. In the last election, 90% of all counties voted for one presidential candidate or another by more than 10%. This means that only 10% of counties voted for one candidate or the other by 10% or less. So unless, in 90% of the counties swing by more than 10%, the winner remains the same as 2016. Therefore, 10% of the counties, only 10%, have a fair chance to flip. Otherwise the shift in counties would have to be bigger than 10%. And that would have to be a tectonic shift. Politics have shifted, but I'm not seeing, even with all the crazy ****, that it matters to anybody that it didn't already matter to. Politically, him dividing the country has worked out very well for him. He's got his tax bill, has an effective foreign policy with enemies ( not with allies, but that's not my point), a booming economy, and he will get the wall. Next year is looking very good for Republicans and not the democrats. I'm a Democrat. This is just how I see it.

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We will see how correct you are in Nov.