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The Dancing Israelis & the WTC - FBI Report [W:204]

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Henry David said:
No, not really CC.

You probably missed it here, but I've walked at least a mile in your shoes. That is, for the better part of 4 years I actually believed the Official Conspiracy Theory as you still do. I actually defended it online for several years. I know all the BS talking points, and actually used them.

Yes, I believed in that hare-brained conspiracy that you still embrace. While I had the intellectual curiosity to explore and learn, it seems you do not. Who knows, perhaps you still believe in the Tooth Fairy. I don't know and don't really care.
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Seems to me that, for whatever reason, you decided to start ignoring reality and start believing in insanity. Your choice.
 
No Captain, you misunderstand.

I have lived in your reality, for about 4 years. I tried to make the round peg fit into the square hole, but it wouldn't work. Your reality in this case is a fiction, a story told by the government to advance a certain agenda.

The facts do not support your reality, they contradict it.

Yours is similar to the "reality" offered by the Pentagon that Pat Tillman was killed by enemy fire or that the North Vietnamese attacked US ships in the Gulf of Tonkin, or on and on and on....:3oops:
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
Seems to me that, for whatever reason, you decided to start ignoring reality and start believing in insanity. Your choice.
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If the government said it was an inside job, he'd think it was a Muslim terrorist attack. It's just that simple.
 
KokomoJojo #432 said:
the guys with the funny hats and beards are orthodox jews, expressing THEIR HATRED FOR ISREAL AND ZIONISTS, THE POLITICAL ARM, are they also antisemites? Funny I just had this conversation with someone recently on another board who didnt know the difference.

Orthodox jews reject the "political" arm which is unrelated to race or religion which seems to me calling someone antisemite under those conditions is a wee bit incorrect.

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But no one ever seems to hear these guys.
I'd say there is a huge basis in reality unless of course hearing it from REAL jews is meaningless?
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Actually, "these guys", are seen out of all proportion to their number.
They are a Tiny ultra-orthodox Kool Aid sect called Neturei Karta/NKusa/NK.uk, jewsnotzionists, etc.
In NY I occasionally see a few of them with even more photographers snapping pix.

They and a few other similar Freak groups are all the rage with antisemites. "See even some Jews hate Israel, so it's not me who has an issue".
In fact, they object to Israel on Religious grounds.
They believe a state should Not exist before the Messiah comes.
IOW, Jesus ain't he.

In the name of glorifying antizionism, they Have unwisely dabbled in anti-semitism by attending things like A'jads holocaust denial conference.

Neturei Karta - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"..Neturei Karta opposes Zionism and calls for a peaceful dismantling of the State of Israel, in the Belief that Jews are forbidden to have their own state until the coming of the Jewish Messiah.[1][2]
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Neturei Karta states that no official count of the number of members exists.[3]
The Jewish Virtual Library puts their numbers at 5,000 [4]
The Anti-Defamation League estimates that fewer than 100 members of the community take part in anti-Israel activism.".."
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Sababa said:
okay show me exactly where they said they had advance knowledge....
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I said they admitted they were there to document the event, you added the rest. So, do I still have to address your straw filled red herring?
 
BmanMcfly said:
I said they admitted they were there to document the event, you added the rest. So, do I still have to address your straw filled red herring?
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They weren't given an assignment to document it, what they were saying is they chose that spot AFTER the plane hit, to film it. For themselves, as many other people did. It is a translation issue for many and a willful ignorance issue for some.
 
No Sababa, they were there BEFORE the act, and they were setting up cameras. Read it and weep.:peace
 
It happened a long time ago. We're talking about history. I did not find out yesterday, I don't keep links, I have no obligation to broaden your horizons. If you're curious, find them yourself. :peace
 
You're happy, Maus, I'm happy.

What's true is another matter, and that's fine by me. There were people who investigated that, and some that even kept records from the start, like the local police, that tell the story. It really happened.

You believe whatever you want dude, I'm happy. :mrgreen:
 
Henry David said:
You're happy, Maus, I'm happy.

What's true is another matter, and that's fine by me. There were people who investigated that, and some that even kept records from the start, like the local police, that tell the story. It really happened.

You believe whatever you want dude, I'm happy. :mrgreen:
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So, ANOTHER unsubstantiated CLAIM declared as a fact.

What was that about "shame"?

"What’s more, if you look at the full 20/20 transcript from which this story is derived, you find that Maria says she saw the van park after she’d been watching the WTC for a few minutes. And so they did not film the first impact."
 
Sababa said:
They weren't given an assignment to document it, what they were saying is they chose that spot AFTER the plane hit, to film it. For themselves, as many other people did. It is a translation issue for many and a willful ignorance issue for some.
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Prove that position?

Or are you just giving them the benefit of doubt?

Either way is fine...
 
At this stage of the game Maus, does it really matter?
 
BmanMcfly said:
Prove that position?

Or are you just giving them the benefit of doubt?

Either way is fine...
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"What’s more, if you look at the full 20/20 transcript from which this story is derived, you find that Maria says she saw the van park after she’d been watching the WTC for a few minutes. And so they did not film the first impact."
 
Henry David said:
No Captain, you misunderstand.

I have lived in your reality, for about 4 years. I tried to make the round peg fit into the square hole, but it wouldn't work. Your reality in this case is a fiction, a story told by the government to advance a certain agenda.

The facts do not support your reality, they contradict it.

Yours is similar to the "reality" offered by the Pentagon that Pat Tillman was killed by enemy fire or that the North Vietnamese attacked US ships in the Gulf of Tonkin, or on and on and on....:3oops:
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Actually, the facts support my reality and dismiss your insane position. Like all conspiracy theorists, you foolishly try to use the exception to prove the rule.
 
Fledermaus said:
"What’s more, if you look at the full 20/20 transcript from which this story is derived, you find that Maria says she saw the van park after she’d been watching the WTC for a few minutes. And so they did not film the first impact."
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To which you reply...
Fledermaus said:
So, the E-Vile Jews carrying out the destruction of billions of dollars worth of building and aircraft carry out a PUBLIC celebration....

And this makes sense to you?
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Fledermaus said:
Your point?
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Not all that long ago the mere suggestion that the situation occurred was an "Ebil joo conspuracee", and now you think yourself an expert cause you read a singular source....
 
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