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The coup attempt against President Trump

No, if you're too lazy to quote it, I won't waste my time.

I already know more about it than you do, and it NEVER claimed Comey was fired for "talking" about anything.

Compounding the error, the Director ignored another longstanding principle: we do not hold press conferences to release derogatory information about the subject of a declined criminal investigation. Derogatory information sometimes is disclosed in the course of criminal investigations and prosecutions, but we never release it gratuitously. The Director laid out his version of the facts for the news media as if it were a closing argument, but without a trial. It is a textbook example of what federal prosecutors and agents are taught not to do.

What do the words "derogatory information" mean? Hint, it doesn't mean talking carefully and in general terms like Barr has.

Never mind the other stunningly unethical things Comey did.

Game, set and match, but I'm sure you'll come up with more nonsense.
 
It goes well beyond "talking about an open investigation". You're willing to debate the topic but clearly aren't familiar with the facts.
'Unsatisfactory across the board': Horowitz doesn’t trust FBI’s explanations for FISA abuses

It is a big agency and FISA is a very small part of their enforcement objectives, I am all for having the FBI narrow their scope and re-write the FISA laws.
Director Wray has accepted all findings and has been making the changes directed to him.
 
What do the words "derogatory information" mean? Hint, it doesn't mean talking carefully and in general terms like Barr has.

Never mind the other stunningly unethical things Comey did.

Game, set and match, but I'm sure you'll come up with more nonsense.

Barr doesn’t care what others think, he is playing to Trump and the base. I do not expect you to be reasonable or rational.
 
It is a big agency and FISA is a very small part of their enforcement objectives, I am all for having the FBI narrow their scope and re-write the FISA laws.
Director Wray has accepted all findings and has been making the changes directed to him.
Members of the FBI lied regarding FISA and the consequences of these lies and omissions were huge. We had the government tied up in the phoney Mueller investigation and then, when that didn't pan out, they went directly into an equally phony impeachment inquiry. Now the Democrats appear to want a formal investigation into the Coronavirus response.

All this turmoil began quite deliberately during the Obama Administration and the Left doesn't seem to catch on yet that they are being played.
 
Wow, so every conservative source in the country is "fact free, brainwashed, fake news?"

You actually expect people to believe that?:lol:

:lamo
This seems to be one of your go-to lines in defense of your fact-free, brainwashed arguments, I see.

Of course, I neither stated, nor implied, that "every conservative source in the country is fact-free...". In REALITY, I have simply asked you to identify which forum you came from before recently joining the DP board. Obviously (after what, 3 or 4 dodges of my question) you're too timid, or just ashamed to say what people already know about you.

It's a shame, because I would have enjoyed debunking all of the ignorant faux-facts and wingnut conspiracy theories in your OP>


I love unintentional liberal humor.;)

This is false bravado.

In reality, you're clearly just another intellectually weak right-winger who is unequipped to defend himself in a substantive debate of ideas. This is why you deflect and dissemble when challenged.

So, contrary to your attempted chest-thumping, the TRUTH here is that it is I who is getting a nice chuckle out of making another low-info rightie (who has CLEARLY spent time on reaffirming wingnut social media/fake news sites that have deluded him into thinking he's an educated political observer)...squirm.
 
What do the words "derogatory information" mean? Hint, it doesn't mean talking carefully and in general terms like Barr has.

Never mind the other stunningly unethical things Comey did.

Game, set and match, but I'm sure you'll come up with more nonsense.

Oh yea AG Barr was quite non-derogatory

Attorney General said the FBI's Russian collusion counterintelligence probe into the Trump campaign was one of the "greatest travesties in American history." In an interview with FNC's Laura Ingraham, Barr said the investigation was started "without any basis" and what happened after the election was a pattern of events "to sabotage the presidency."
 
Vanity Fair?

You're kidding, right?

What does a left wing arts magazine know about criminal investigations and politics?

What's next, Field and Stream?:lol:
:lamo

...says a fake-newser who posts links from conspiratorial/propaganda based fake-news sites like Gateway Pundit and CNS

You people don't lend yourselves much credibility when conflate, confuse or just misrepresent IDEOLOGY with factual ACCURACY.

No intelligent person cares about the ideology of OPINION pieces in a given publication. What matters is the ACCURACY of the hard news.

Vanity fair is well respected for it's accurate and in-depth news reporting. Gateway Pundit and CNS are well known for being purveyors of fringe conservative propaganda and bat-crap-crazy wingnut conspiracy theories. To argue otherwise is to be made the fool.
 
Members of the FBI lied regarding FISA and the consequences of these lies and omissions were huge. We had the government tied up in the phoney Mueller investigation and then, when that didn't pan out, they went directly into an equally phony impeachment inquiry. Now the Democrats appear to want a formal investigation into the Coronavirus response.

All this turmoil began quite deliberately during the Obama Administration and the Left doesn't seem to catch on yet that they are being played.

Assumptions and speculation. Intent you have prove there was the intent. I do not think you understand what that is at all.
 
:lamo

...says a fake-newser who posts links from conspiratorial/propaganda based fake-news sites like Gateway Pundit and CNS

You people don't lend yourselves much credibility when conflate, confuse or just misrepresent IDEOLOGY with factual ACCURACY.

No intelligent person cares about the ideology of OPINION pieces in a given publication. What matters is the ACCURACY of the hard news.

Vanity fair is well respected for it's accurate and in-depth news reporting. Gateway Pundit and CNS are well known for being purveyors of fringe conservative propaganda and bat-crap-crazy wingnut conspiracy theories. To argue otherwise is to be made the fool.

He doesn’t want to read anything that doesn’t agree with his rightwing conspiracy theories. I used Vanity Fair because he gave they linked to the interview.
 
Wow, so every conservative source in the country is "fact free, brainwashed, fake news?"

You actually expect people to believe that?:lol:

I love unintentional liberal humor.;)

:lamo
This seems to be one of your go-to lines in defense of your fact-free, brainwashed arguments, I see.

0Of course, I neither stated, nor implied, that "every conservative source in the country is fact-free...".

Given that I cited said sources, you obviously believe they are, too.

And speaking of "fact free," which of us has cited fact-filled sources with both quotes and links, you or me?

Run, Forrest, run!
 
Given that I cited said sources, you obviously believe they are, too.

And speaking of "fact free," which of us has cited fact-filled sources with both quotes and links, you or me?

Run, Forrest, run!

You bring up random rightwingers.
 
In REALITY, I have simply asked you to identify which forum you came from before recently joining the DP board. Obviously (after what, 3 or 4 dodges of my question) you're too timid, or just ashamed to say what people already know about you.

IN REALITY, I answered you and told you that the site has crashed.

At which point you falsely accused me of lying.

It's a shame, because I would have enjoyed debunking all of the ignorant faux-facts and wingnut conspiracy theories in your OP>

Well here I am live in the flesh. What have you done to refute any claims I've made?

Off the top of my head, absolutely nothing.

But feel free to try. I'll be greatly amused.:lol:


This is false bravado.

In reality, you're clearly just another intellectually weak right-winger who is unequipped to defend himself in a substantive debate of ideas. This is why you deflect and dissemble when challenged.

So, contrary to your attempted chest-thumping, the TRUTH here is that it is I who is getting a nice chuckle out of making another low-info rightie (who has CLEARLY spent time on reaffirming wingnut social media/fake news sites that have deluded him into thinking he's an educated political observer)...squirm.

Wow, look at all that grandiose empty rhetoric.

So challenge me on issues. I'll be more than happy to kick your cyber-butt.;)
 
:lamo

...says a fake-newser who posts links from conspiratorial/propaganda based fake-news sites like Gateway Pundit and CNS

You people don't lend yourselves much credibility when conflate, confuse or just misrepresent IDEOLOGY with factual ACCURACY.

No intelligent person cares about the ideology of OPINION pieces in a given publication. What matters is the ACCURACY of the hard news.

Vanity fair is well respected for it's accurate and in-depth news reporting. Gateway Pundit and CNS are well known for being purveyors of fringe conservative propaganda and bat-crap-crazy wingnut conspiracy theories. To argue otherwise is to be made the fool.

Well here's a test. Which publication carried three years of anti-Trump Fake News, lies, propaganda and utter BS about the now debunked Russian Collusion Hoax, the Treason Hoax, the Michael Avenatti for president Hoax, the Impeachment Clown Show Hoax, the illegal campaign contribution hoax, the Russian money laundering hoax and all the rest of that hooey?

Gateway and my sources or Vanity Fair?

and off the top of your head, no googling, what big mistakes has Gateway made?

No cheating.
 
Well here's a test. Which publication carried three years of anti-Trump Fake News, lies, propaganda and utter BS about the now debunked Russian Collusion Hoax, the Treason Hoax, the Michael Avenatti for president Hoax, the Impeachment Clown Show Hoax, the illegal campaign contribution hoax, the Russian money laundering hoax and all the rest of that hooey?

Gateway and my sources or Vanity Fair?

and off the top of your head, no googling, what big mistakes has Gateway made?

No cheating.

FOX NEWS headlines, wow you don’t say?
 
Holy lord everyone will be indicted!!! You want and need to believe this BS.

I would live to see how the traitor Rod Rosenstein looks in a noose.
 
:lamo
This seems to be one of your go-to lines in defense of your fact-free, brainwashed arguments, I see.

Of course, I neither stated, nor implied, that "every conservative source in the country is fact-free...". In REALITY, I have simply asked you to identify which forum you came from before recently joining the DP board. Obviously (after what, 3 or 4 dodges of my question) you're too timid, or just ashamed to say what people already know about you.

It's a shame, because I would have enjoyed debunking all of the ignorant faux-facts and wingnut conspiracy theories in your OP>




This is false bravado.

In reality, you're clearly just another intellectually weak right-winger who is unequipped to defend himself in a substantive debate of ideas. This is why you deflect and dissemble when challenged.

So, contrary to your attempted chest-thumping, the TRUTH here is that it is I who is getting a nice chuckle out of making another low-info rightie (who has CLEARLY spent time on reaffirming wingnut social media/fake news sites that have deluded him into thinking he's an educated political observer)...squirm.

Oh my, I hate squirming.:(

here's highly respected National Review. Ever heard of it?

Welcome to the Real Russia Scandal
By DAVID HARSANYI
April 16, 2020 4:30 PM
The FBI was warned that the Steele Dossier might contain Russian disinformation.
Here’s what we know: The Obama administration opened an investigation into the Republican Party’s presidential campaign during a highly contested election predominantly using dubious evidence that was paid for by the Democratic Party — and that likely included Russian disinformation.

Catherine Herridge at CBS News, who has done notably excellent work on an issue few in the legacy media want to cover, reports that newly declassified footnotes show that the FBI relied on the DNC’s Steele dossier to secure warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, even though agents were warned multiple times that Russians had likely corrupted the evidence.

Herridge offers numerous instances, but here are just a couple:

Footnote 350 reads in part, “The (redacted) stated that it did not have high confidence in this subset of Steele’s reporting and assessed that the referenced subset was part of a Russian disinformation campaign to denigrate US foreign relations.”

Footnote 302 is related to the FBI’s efforts to verify information contained in the Steele dossier.

“According to a document circulated among Crossfire Hurricane team members and supervisors in early October 2016, Person 1 had historical contact with persons and entities suspected of being linked to RIS (Russian Intel).”

According to CBS, the FBI also warned that one Russian source for the Steele dossier also voiced “strong support” for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

Will any reporter with access to the DNC ask someone over there whether the organization had been advised that aspects of their opposition research contained Kremlin falsehoods? And if so, did they know this before they handed it to CNN or BuzzFeed et al., which breathlessly regurgitated the information as reporting?


Will someone with access ask former high-ranking Justice Department officials such as James Comey whether they were aware that the warrants obtained for eavesdropping on a presidential campaign were partisan documents contaminated with information from a foreign intelligence agency?

It should be reiterated that the FISA applications sought by the FBI were almost “entirely” predicated on the fabulist Steele dossier, according to Inspector General Michael Horowitz. Further, the agents also left out contradictory, exculpatory evidence when kicking off the spying against Carter Page. And Horowitz recently reported that, from October 2014 to September 2019, virtually every application for a FISA warrant featured “significant inaccuracies and omissions” and “fraudulent” evidence.

After Trump won the election in 2016, Obama holdovers and opponents of the president in new administration began leaking misleading snippets of the Trump–Russia investigation to a largely pliant media, which used to it fuel partisan hysteria that dominated American media coverage for three years.


All of this then sparked an open-ended independent Robert Mueller investigation that, though it failed to come back with a single indictment against anyone for criminal conspiracy with Russia during the 2016 campaign, succeeded in overwhelming our news coverage and convincing many gullible voters that the Russians had stolen the election.

Seems like there’s a huge and important story to tell here
Trump & Russia & DNC’s Steele Dossier -- Welcome to the Real Russia Scandal | National Review
 
Okay, we have an historian intelligent enough and learned enough to work at the respected Hoover Institute, publish history books and appear on Fox and elsewhere for his opinions.

Then we have you.

Enough said.:lol::lol::lol:
So, according to your logic, if someone has advanced degrees, prestigious appointments, has written books, and has held high level positions in the U.S. government their words are golden?

I’ll be sure to remind you of that the next time you question the words of former President Obama, Clinton (husband and wife), Nancy Pelosi, James Comey, John Brennan, Condoleezza Rice, James Comey and others. ;)

As if you have the slightest clue. You've never heard of him until today.
Funny. You been here about 30 minutes and already you think you know what anyone does or doesn’t know.

I will give you credit though, for quickly making clear how little you know and that your ignorance/bias is included in every comment you post.

He was right about the death panels as even Obama officials and Obama himself admitted.
I look forward to reviewing links that you will post, proving your (complete bull****) assertion.

And gosh, he supported a highly respected mayor for president? Gasp!
:2rofll: Giuliani hasn’t been “highly respected” for a long time. He did good following the attacks, but then milked that respect for every nickel he could squeeze out of it. He is so unworthy of respect that his own children refused to support his candidacy for president. ****, even Trump’s kids supported their bigoted sexual predator father when he threw his hat in the ring. Of course, they’ve been cashing in, big time, since then, but that’s another discussion.
 
Holy lord everyone will be indicted!!! You want and need to believe this BS.
That "everyone will indicted" is your claim, not mine. Few are so foolish to believe that.
 
Assumptions and speculation. Intent you have prove there was the intent. I do not think you understand what that is at all.
Are you denying that's what occurred? Nothing substantive?
 
Are you denying that's what occurred? Nothing substantive?

Criminal intent means the intent to do something wrong or forbidden by law. Intent refers to the state of mind accompanying an act especially a forbidden act. It is the outline of the mental pattern which is necessary to do the crime.
 
Given that I cited said sources, you obviously believe they are, too.

And speaking of "fact free," which of us has cited fact-filled sources with both quotes and links, you or me?

Run, Forrest, run!

:lamo
More false bravado from an alt-rightie who can't back up his own arguments with credible sources. Nothing new, here.

Your fragility is beginning to show. And that's always funny to see you people start to fumble when you realize you're in WAY over your head.:cool:

Of course, any/all righties who trust and rely upon KNOWN wingnut conspiracy/propaganda sites like Gateway Pundit, CNS, etc....are BY DEFINITION, ignorant and uneducated. The reason you people rely upon fake news sources like those is because you KNOW that legitimate news organizations (left, right and center) simply will not promote the ignorant right-wing lies that you folk call "news".

It's only a matter of time, I'm sure, before you post links to Alex Jones and Qanon. :lamo

So, tell us...what are your views on Jade Helm??...Fast and Furious??...Obama's birth certificate?? :lamo

Wingnuts will always do what ONLY wingnuts can do.

That's really the bottom line, here.
 
Okay, we have an historian intelligent enough and learned enough to work at the respected Hoover Institute, publish history books and appear on Fox and elsewhere for his opinions.

Then we have you.

Enough said.:lol::lol::lol:

ignorant faux-facts and wingnut conspiracy theories So, according to your logic, if someone has advanced degrees, prestigious appointments, has written books, and has held high level positions in the U.S. government their words are golden?

Not at all. You riodiculously claimed that I spread "fact-free, brainwashed arguments and ignorant faux-facts and wingnut conspiracy theories."

That's just freaking ridiculous.

Scholars like Hanson and other sources I cite do not spread such things.

I do not spread such things.

You have no clue what the facts are.

You have no clue who espouses my claims.

No clue what Barr has said.

No clue what the FISA court has said.

No clue about almost anything about this massive scandal.
 
:lamo
More false bravado from an alt-rightie who can't back up his own arguments with credible sources. Nothing new, here.

What sources have I cited that are not credible?

And what sources with quotes have you cited?

Which of my claims have you refuted?

Run, Forrest, run!
 
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