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The Biggest Problem the U.S. has with Trump is.........

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The biggest problem the U.S. has with Trump are his enablers:

Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Reince Priebus
Mike Pence
Lindsey Graham
John McCain
Sarah Ellison
John Bolton
Mike Pompeo
The Republican Party
The Media
The Democratic Party

Read About it:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-enablers

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/23/17155796/john-bolton-trump-mike-pompeo-war-cabinet

Robert Reich (Trump?s Three Biggest Enablers)
I kinda get your point. I think we can more broadly say that Trump’s candidacy was a stress-test on the United States’ political, social, and cultural strength and cohesion. And we failed...badly. There’s plenty of blame to go around, though his poor, downtrodden, “economically anxious” base and his whores in Congress bear the brunt. I’m of the mind that we’ll emerge from it stronger and more cautious of the evils of nationalism and intranational cultural and class warfare. Of course, we might just be headed for political hell in a handbasket. Suit up, I guess. ;)
 
I kinda get your point. I think we can more broadly say that Trump’s candidacy was a stress-test on the United States’ political, social, and cultural strength and cohesion. And we failed...badly. There’s plenty of blame to go around, though his poor, downtrodden, “economically anxious” base and his whores in Congress bear the brunt. I’m of the mind that we’ll emerge from it stronger and more cautious of the evils of nationalism and intranational cultural and class warfare. Of course, we might just be headed for political hell in a handbasket. Suit up, I guess. ;)

It gets worse from here....there is zero will to fix the problems with America, the real ones I mean...I am not speaking of the imaginary ones, which has long been the case.
 
I’d rather not have #45’s name associated with my answer, or any politician.

Instead, I’ll say Infrastructure, Infrastructure, Infrastructure.

After that, Real Issues, Real Issues, and Real Issues.
 
The biggest problem the U.S. has with Trump are his enablers:

Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Reince Priebus
Mike Pence
Lindsey Graham
John McCain
Sarah Ellison
John Bolton
Mike Pompeo
The Republican Party
The Media
The Democratic Party

Read About it:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-enablers

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/23/17155796/john-bolton-trump-mike-pompeo-war-cabinet

Robert Reich (Trump?s Three Biggest Enablers)

Translation: there needs to be a third political party where someone money can't come into politics and there has to be some type of metric to measure really if the elected leaders are working towards the best interest of their constituents.

I can dream, can't I?
 
Translation: there needs to be a third political party where someone money can't come into politics and there has to be some type of metric to measure really if the elected leaders are working towards the best interest of their constituents.

I can dream, can't I?
I'm not convinced a 3rd party is possible without changes that the two-party system won't allow.
 
I'm not convinced a 3rd party is possible without changes that the two-party system won't allow.

Thanks, Mr. Buzzkill for making my dreams go, "Kabluee" :)

Yes, I realize the current two parties have a stranglehold on power. Making that change would take:

1. A large grass roots effort and;

2. People of different idologica backgrounds would have to cooperate.

Both very difficult to make happen!
 
The Biggest Problem the U.S. has with Trump is.........

I was going to say that ridiculous combover...but, whatever. :shrug:
 
The biggest problem the U.S. has with Trump are his enablers:

Paul Ryan
Mitch McConnell
Reince Priebus
Mike Pence
Lindsey Graham
John McCain
Sarah Ellison
John Bolton
Mike Pompeo
The Republican Party
The Media
The Democratic Party

Read About it:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/06/donald-trump-enablers

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/23/17155796/john-bolton-trump-mike-pompeo-war-cabinet

Robert Reich (Trump?s Three Biggest Enablers)

Sorry, I refuse to any longer step anywhere near the bloviating blather you folks are drowning in.

What you folks dont seem to recognize as you climb over each other in the race to be first over the cliff... is that America appreciates, more and more, just what this president is doing for all of us.

Not just trying to do. Doing.

You arent credible, nobody, but yourselves,takes you folks seriously any more. So now we just laugh. :lamo
 
Reich nails it.



I used to strongly dislike the guy, but now he is a favorite. Too bad Democrats pay lip service to his wisdom but then ignore him when it matters.
 
The Biggest Problem the U.S. has with Trump is.........
...that Trump is the POTUS. Trump's enablers aren't the problem. He is the problem.
 
Sorry, I refuse to any longer step anywhere near the bloviating blather you folks are drowning in.

What you folks dont seem to recognize as you climb over each other in the race to be first over the cliff... is that America appreciates, more and more, just what this president is doing for all of us.

Not just trying to do. Doing.

You arent credible, nobody, but yourselves,takes you folks seriously any more. So now we just laugh. :lamo

For the sake of giving you a voice in what this nation does, would you be so kind to tell us exactly what President Trump has DONE that is so much more than any other President. Please be specific as to things that HE has actually accomplished and not what he "says" he has accomplished. The man is a known liar so his words are meaningless.

By the way, before you mention Tax Reform, Stock Market Rally, and Better Economic conditions, please understand that all of those were Republican goals "before Trump" and were accomplished by the Republicans being in office (House and Senate being under Republican control) and not because of Trump. ANY Republican would have accomplished the same.

Please give specific accomplishments.
 
It gets worse from here....there is zero will to fix the problems with America, the real ones I mean...I am not speaking of the imaginary ones, which has long been the case.

It got worse today. Today Trump made clear that the U.S. is second to Russia and that we will allow anything and everything done to us by Putin. What else could Putin do, other than attack us militarily, that Trump would criticize? He attacked us Cyber-wise and Trump himself denies that Putin did anything. Is this Treason?

Below is a list of how Trump attacks everyone and note at the bottom of the list the words he has used for Putin:

Trudeau: Meek and dishonest
Rosie O’Donnell: Loser
Bryant Gumbel: Dumb Racist
Michelle Malkin: Stupid
Bernie Sanders: Weak and Pathetic
Danny Zuker: Pathetic and easy
Obama: Incompetent
Chuck Todd: Pathetic
Frank Luntz: Total joke
Barney Frank: Disgusting
Mitt Romney: Awkward and Goofy
Mika Brzezinski: A total mess
Vladimir Putin: Smart, Tough, Nice

What else is it going to take to make the base and the Republicans realize that Trump is a Traitor and that all he really wants to do is Make Russia Great Again. It is not MAGA but MRGA!
 
It got worse today. Today Trump made clear that the U.S. is second to Russia and that we will allow anything and everything done to us by Putin. What else could Putin do, other than attack us militarily, that Trump would criticize? He attacked us Cyber-wise and Trump himself denies that Putin did anything. Is this Treason?

Below is a list of how Trump attacks everyone and note at the bottom of the list the words he has used for Putin:

Trudeau: Meek and dishonest
Rosie O’Donnell: Loser
Bryant Gumbel: Dumb Racist
Michelle Malkin: Stupid
Bernie Sanders: Weak and Pathetic
Danny Zuker: Pathetic and easy
Obama: Incompetent
Chuck Todd: Pathetic
Frank Luntz: Total joke
Barney Frank: Disgusting
Mitt Romney: Awkward and Goofy
Mika Brzezinski: A total mess
Vladimir Putin: Smart, Tough, Nice

What else is it going to take to make the base and the Republicans realize that Trump is a Traitor and that all he really wants to do is Make Russia Great Again. It is not MAGA but MRGA!

Trump is here BECAUSE America has failed.

Until you can understand this you are no place.
 
Trump is here BECAUSE America has failed.

Until you can understand this you are no place.

America failed? you need to define that statement because America is a Nation and Nations don't fail, the people in the Nation fail and though I do agree with you that the people in this Nation have failed, I need to point out that it was the Republicans that started the lack of partisanship because a Black man was elected and the racism stopped them from even trying to compromise with him. That is when the failure started, with all the Republicans sitting at the first State of the Union address even when Obama said something as patriotic to everyone as the Pledge of Allegiance.

Ridiculous.
 
America failed? you need to define that statement because America is a Nation and Nations don't fail, the people in the Nation fail and though I do agree with you that the people in this Nation have failed, I need to point out that it was the Republicans that started the lack of partisanship because a Black man was elected and the racism stopped them from even trying to compromise with him. That is when the failure started, with all the Republicans sitting at the first State of the Union address even when Obama said something as patriotic to everyone as the Pledge of Allegiance.

Ridiculous.

Both parties have failed America, all of the leadership class has failed America over the span of nearly 60 years, if you dont understand that the you are no place.
 
Below is a list of how Trump attacks everyone and note at the bottom of the list the words he has used for Putin:

Trudeau: Meek and dishonest
Rosie O’Donnell: Loser
Bryant Gumbel: Dumb Racist
Michelle Malkin: Stupid
Bernie Sanders: Weak and Pathetic
Danny Zuker: Pathetic and easy
Obama: Incompetent
Chuck Todd: Pathetic
Frank Luntz: Total joke
Barney Frank: Disgusting
Mitt Romney: Awkward and Goofy
Mika Brzezinski: A total mess
Vladimir Putin: Smart, Tough, Nice

Trump also praised brutal dictator Kim Jong Un........a pattern is developing.
 
Both parties have failed America, all of the leadership class has failed America over the span of nearly 60 years, if you dont understand that the you are no place.

I do agree but there is another reason that does span at least 40 years and is also one of the main problems and it is greed. In 1984 a poll was taken about what was the most important thing to a person and 34% said "money". The same poll was taken in 1996 and the money answer was up to 66%.

Greed is a big divider because it divides the Democrats from the Republicans. The Republicans believe in Capitalism and the Democrats believe in a somewhat even distribution of money and the fact that greed doubled in 15 years made the Republicans and Democrats even more distant from each other.

I don't know if you agree but I believe that any extreme is bad, both as far as greed and as far as sharing. Take away some of the greed and limit some of the sharing and things will get better. By the same token, I have no idea how that can be done, short of a cataclismic event that destroys everything and makes people "have to work together" to survive.

It is a sad situation and one I believe has no solution other than a catastrophe.
 
For the sake of giving you a voice in what this nation does, would you be so kind to tell us exactly what President Trump has DONE that is so much more than any other President. Please be specific as to things that HE has actually accomplished and not what he "says" he has accomplished. The man is a known liar so his words are meaningless.

By the way, before you mention Tax Reform, Stock Market Rally, and Better Economic conditions, please understand that all of those were Republican goals "before Trump" and were accomplished by the Republicans being in office (House and Senate being under Republican control) and not because of Trump. ANY Republican would have accomplished the same.

Please give specific accomplishments.

Go back and research my other posts here, some quite lengthy that often get criticized as being overly done by the one liner vacuous trash slingers onsite (making as if they are actually "contributing")...I tire of writing at length to brick wall keyboarders. Suffice to say, by your open yet indirect acknowledgement of the specific areas you mention, that those have been generally accomplished, but you want specifics. There are tons of specifics regarding Supreme Court, unemployment, bad international deals ended, the ISIS attempted caliphate in ruin, immigration enforceme nt, deporting illegal gang members, etc, etc...again, said all this and more before.

I will here mention that having common goals are distinct from specifically having accomplished those goals. None have arrived at accomplished historic goals near as rapidly, with many more goals in the batting box and line up in the second innong of what will probably be a 8 inning game. The main reason we have GOP control of the national legislature is because of Trump coattails. Besides, he has often had to drag them kicking and screaming over the finish line to win.

Seek and ye shall find.
 
Go back and research my other posts here, some quite lengthy that often get criticized as being overly done by the one liner vacuous trash slingers onsite (making as if they are actually "contributing")...I tire of writing at length to brick wall keyboarders. Suffice to say, by your open yet indirect acknowledgement of the specific areas you mention, that those have been generally accomplished, but you want specifics. There are tons of specifics regarding Supreme Court, unemployment, bad international deals ended, the ISIS attempted caliphate in ruin, immigration enforceme nt, deporting illegal gang members, etc, etc...again, said all this and more before.

I will here mention that having common goals are distinct from specifically having accomplished those goals. None have arrived at accomplished historic goals near as rapidly, with many more goals in the batting box and line up in the second innong of what will probably be a 8 inning game. The main reason we have GOP control of the national legislature is because of Trump coattails. Besides, he has often had to drag them kicking and screaming over the finish line to win.

Seek and ye shall find.

It is perplexing that no Trumpian has taken the opportunity to laud Trump's accomplishments, suggesting that they evidently can't.
 
I just did...are you blind? Maybe need a bigger magnifying glass?

You are funny.

There are tons of specifics regarding Supreme Court, unemployment, bad international deals ended, the ISIS attempted caliphate in ruin, immigration enforceme nt, deporting illegal gang members, etc, etc...again, said all this and more before.

I will here mention that having common goals are distinct from specifically having accomplished those goals. None have arrived at accomplished historic goals near as rapidly, with many more goals in the batting box and line up in the second innong of what will probably be a 8 inning game. The main reason we have GOP control of the national legislature is because of Trump coattails. Besides, he has often had to drag them kicking and screaming over the finish line to win.


Lets talk about specifics of these:

1) Supreme Court. Yes, here the Republicans have had success. Then again, the only reason they have had success is because they have a majority in the House and Congress. It has not been Trump! Goofy would have been able to be confirmed by the majority if they wanted to. As such, it is not a Trump accomplishment.

2) Bad international deals ended? Well, he did end the trade deals but whether it is a success or not is yet to be determined. Lots of people on the opposite side have said ending them was the wrong decision. For example, ending the TTP has given China a huge advantage in the East. That may end up being a huge mistake.

3) ISIS? Isis was already on the run with Obama and all that occurred with Trump is that the military continued the plan. Trump has done absolutely nothing to make the plan better.

4) Deporting illegal gang members. You need to research your numbers before stating this. Deporting illegals has only gone up about 5% under Trump than under Obama and Obama had already deported almost 50% more illegals than Bush did. As such, Trump's accomplishments on this is negligible. On the other side of the coin, the amount of damage done by Trump in separating families of illegals and legal immigration has done untold damage to future elections.

5) etc, etc, etc, needs to be stated exactly.

In the process of doing what little Trump has actually done, the damage to the standing of the U.S. throughout the world has been enormous. We are now looked upon as a nation run by a mad impetuous child that does not fulfill its commitments and no longer represents Democracy. Having been the pillar of Democracy for over 70 years, this was a disaster. This will result in less desire to help when we do get in trouble, such as the help we received on 9/11. In addition, many of his "Executive Orders" signings are likely to cause tremendous damage. First of all, it was the lack of regulations in 2007 that brought about the economic collapse of the U.S. in 2008 that if it wasn't for Obama would have destroyed this nation. As such, the lack of restrictions will help the rich (as it helped them in 2007) but may end up causing a second economic disaster which we will not have Obama to help us out of. Secondly, you may not believe in Global Warming but mother nature has a way of teaching us hard lessons and that is damage that the end result is yet to be seen but when seen will destroy this planet, all thanks to Trump and his greed objectives.

As such, you can beat your chest all you want regarding Trump but the reality is that he has actually done more harm than good and what little good he has done would have been done by any other Republican President without the damage.

Trump is and will remain "the worst President the U.S. has ever and will ever have".
 
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You are funny.

There are tons of specifics regarding Supreme Court, unemployment, bad international deals ended, the ISIS attempted caliphate in ruin, immigration enforceme nt, deporting illegal gang members, etc, etc...again, said all this and more before.

I will here mention that having common goals are distinct from specifically having accomplished those goals. None have arrived at accomplished historic goals near as rapidly, with many more goals in the batting box and line up in the second innong of what will probably be a 8 inning game. The main reason we have GOP control of the national legislature is because of Trump coattails. Besides, he has often had to drag them kicking and screaming over the finish line to win.

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Lets talk about specifics of these:

1) Supreme Court. Yes, here the Republicans have had success. Then again, the only reason they have had success is because they have a majority in the House and Congress. It has not been Trump! Goofy would have been able to be confirmed by the majority if they wanted to. As such, it is not a Trump accomplishment.

2) Bad international deals ended? Well, he did end the trade deals but whether it is a success or not is yet to be determined. Lots of people on the opposite side have said ending them was the wrong decision. For example, ending the TTP has given China a huge advantage in the East. That may end up being a huge mistake.

3) ISIS? Isis was already on the run with Obama and all that occurred with Trump is that the military continued the plan. Trump has done absolutely nothing to make the plan better.

4) Deporting illegal gang members. You need to research your numbers before stating this. Deporting illegals has only gone up about 5% under Trump than under Obama and Obama had already deported almost 50% more illegals than Bush did. As such, Trump's accomplishments on this is negligible. On the other side of the coin, the amount of damage done by Trump in separating families of illegals and legal immigration has done untold damage to future elections.

5) etc, etc, etc, needs to be stated exactly.

In the process of doing what little Trump has actually done, the damage to the standing of the U.S. throughout the world has been enormous. We are now looked upon as a nation run by a mad impetuous child that does not fulfill its commitments and no longer represents Democracy. Having been the pillar of Democracy for over 70 years, this was a disaster. This will result in less desire to help when we do get in trouble, such as the help we received on 9/11. In addition, many of his "Executive Orders" signings are likely to cause tremendous damage. First of all, it was the lack of regulations in 2007 that brought about the economic collapse of the U.S. in 2008 that if it wasn't for Obama would have destroyed this nation. As such, the lack of restrictions will help the rich (as it helped them in 2007) but may end up causing a second economic disaster which we will not have Obama to help us out of. Secondly, you may not believe in Global Warming but mother nature has a way of teaching us hard lessons and that is damage that the end result is yet to be seen but when seen will destroy this planet, all thanks to Trump and his greed objectives.

As such, you can beat your chest all you want regarding Trump but the reality is that he has actually done more harm than good and what little good he has done would have been done by any other Republican President without the damage.

Trump is and will remain "the worst President the U.S. has ever and will ever have".

Doesnt matter whatever evidence you folks are given...its tribal, ugga booga Trump bad man.

Americans of all stripes are seeing, noticing the tremendous differences in the doldrums economy of slenderman and now. See Trump making our allies and NATO partners pony up to their agreed to ends of the bargain, not avoiding the inequites in almost all our weak trade deals of the past, getting us out of TPP and the leftist scare of the disastorious Paris Accords , ISIS on the run? Hell, slenderman wouldnt even speak the words readical Islamic terrorism, much less actually do the right things to stop it. See the false promises of past, ie, moving our embassy to Jerusalem, appointing real conservatives identified ahead of time to the SCOTUS instead of wishy washy ones, etc...

The ects, ects...btw, are seemingly endless as he has allready done so much...with the stark differences of the misadministration prior its easy to see.

Sorry if your declining remaining numbers dont like what he is accomplishing, WE see it. Your leftist media has done its best to hide it...but WE see despite the garbage, fake news, put out by that media.

Hey, be or become a patriot, open your eyes, just walk away... if you are smart.
 
Doesnt matter whatever evidence you folks are given...its tribal, ugga booga Trump bad man.

Americans of all stripes are seeing, noticing the tremendous differences in the doldrums economy of slenderman and now. See Trump making our allies and NATO partners pony up to their agreed to ends of the bargain, not avoiding the inequites in almost all our weak trade deals of the past, getting us out of TPP and the leftist scare of the disastorious Paris Accords , ISIS on the run? Hell, slenderman wouldnt even speak the words readical Islamic terrorism, much less actually do the right things to stop it. See the false promises of past, ie, moving our embassy to Jerusalem, appointing real conservatives identified ahead of time to the SCOTUS instead of wishy washy ones, etc...

The ects, ects...btw, are seemingly endless as he has allready done so much...with the stark differences of the misadministration prior its easy to see.

Sorry if your declining remaining numbers dont like what he is accomplishing, WE see it. Your leftist media has done its best to hide it...but WE see despite the garbage, fake news, put out by that media.

Hey, be or become a patriot, open your eyes, just walk away... if you are smart.

You know, there is something I was taught by my parents at a young age and then confirmed over and over again by just about every respectable person in my life. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Honor, respect, and principles are still important.

I don't necessarily agree that the things that Trump has accomplished are all wrong. Nonetheless, the way he has done them is all wrong. The ends do not justify the means and this is where I divorce myself from him and any of the things he has done.

I truly believe that any other Republican would have accomplished the same but every other Republican would have done it better and without the negatives involved. In addition, most of what Trump has been able to do is economic in nature and to me economics is only 1 of the 5 things in life that are important. On the other 4, he fails miserably. As such and like with a report card, when a student in School gets an "D" or an "F" on his grades card, it isn't because he got everything wrong but because he got most of it wrong. Trump is getting most of the things wrong.

He is supporting anger, hate, underhanded behavior, lack of respect for institutions, laws, and general decency. He is supporting Bullying, debasing of others and Fascism or Autocracy.

If your goal in life is purely economic, then I understand your support for Trump but if you have any morality, humanity, decency, honor and respect for others, then I do not understand your support.

End of story.
 
You know, there is something I was taught by my parents at a young age and then confirmed over and over again by just about every respectable person in my life. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. Honor, respect, and principles are still important.

I don't necessarily agree that the things that Trump has accomplished are all wrong. Nonetheless, the way he has done them is all wrong. The ends do not justify the means and this is where I divorce myself from him and any of the things he has done.

I truly believe that any other Republican would have accomplished the same but every other Republican would have done it better and without the negatives involved. In addition, most of what Trump has been able to do is economic in nature and to me economics is only 1 of the 5 things in life that are important. On the other 4, he fails miserably. As such and like with a report card, when a student in School gets an "D" or an "F" on his grades card, it isn't because he got everything wrong but because he got most of it wrong. Trump is getting most of the things wrong.

He is supporting anger, hate, underhanded behavior, lack of respect for institutions, laws, and general decency. He is supporting Bullying, debasing of others and Fascism or Autocracy.

If your goal in life is purely economic, then I understand your support for Trump but if you have any morality, humanity, decency, honor and respect for others, then I do not understand your support.

End of story.
You demand specifics...

And give me this, your VERY BROAD BRUSHED generic demonization along the current establishment, political, Hollywood, academia media complex lines. WE sent him there to kick that table over, to identify individuals, groups and institutions that work daily against the everyday American. The corrupt cheats that hold, and have long held, the levers of power and manipulation.

Trump is like Dorothy and Toto trying to get America back home. He is picking up allies as he follows the yellow brick road, with the wicked witch hunting him at every step along the road, throwing every obstacle imaginable in his path. He has reached Oz, has approached the facade put up by the powerful but fake wizards, has seen them behind the curtain as they pull the false levers, pulled back the curtain to expose them to all that will open their eyes.

Did you not see the sham of the Hillary email investigation? The unequal standard applied to those under the Trump investigation? The Muel investigation indicting 13 Russian companies, two of which didn't even exist during the alleged meddling (just to get something on the board sounding Russian), the muel thought he would never have to worry ...until they sent their lawyers to fight), now 12 specific Russian intel agents that he thought were safer, than those companies proved, to indict...but thats now falling apart, too...the curtain thrown back exposing the fakeness.

You do not see that they have yet to have any proof of collusion by Trump? You did not see that the DNC rigged the campaign so that Bernie was not to win against Hillary? Did you not see that even tho we are at the point, from those on your side, to go to war with Russia...that this supposed national security breach of DNC server was never investigated by the FBI technology forensic team relying on dubious Crowdstrike, wholly in the pocket of the DNC (what are they hiding...and why didn't the FBI demand them to properly investigate the Russian meddling)...these go on and on endlessly as well…

We are lucky to have Trump, you just don't have the wherewithal to see it.
 
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