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It isn't just people on the left that feel this way. Mach seems to think if everyone had a HS diploma there would be less unemployment and better wages for everyone. While I agree minimum wages/benefits need to somehow match cost of living better than it seems to do, there will always be low-paying jobs.I agree PARTLY. But I see NO NEED to import unskilled or semi-skilled FORIEGN labor SIMPLY to artificially depress wages and increase profits IN THE USA. No job, doing honest, hard work is BENEATH an American citizen, that sends a VERY BAD message to our children. Not everyone is going to be capable of "better" work. We now pay 15% of our population to do NOTHING; look at the OWS loons DEMANDING high wages for doing less difficult jobs, simply because they have a piece of peper saying that they are "educated". Nobody deserves a hand out, REGARDLESS of their "education", if work needs to be done then a wage sufficient to attract U.S. workers needs to be paid, no less and no more. The insane idea of the left is that a college degree, even in underwater basket weaving, somehow entitles one to be paid WAY more than their work is REALLY worth, yet someone, WITHOUT that degree, must accept whatever scraps are offered as "fair" compensation for their labor, if not, they will get gov't "permission" to use TEMPORARY foreigners to do it.
:lamoWe did just end 136 years of Democrat party rule.
You talk about knee-jerk reactions but that's exactly what numbers without context incite. I know, you guys don't like comparisons because it often makes you look bad - but without them you have no context.Why? Is it that every crappy over reach that Obama does, it has to have an immediate knee jerk, 'Well, Bush....." It's such BS!
:lamo Deceitful every step of the way![...] And that, along with almost every single state office of relevance has been in the hands of liberal democrats for 136 years.
And he repeats the lie - no doubt going by the typical Republican tenet that if you repeat the same lie often enough, people will start to believe it.This state has been dominated by liberal democrats for more than one hundred years.
When you're at the bottom all motion results in upward movement ...Our best days are ahead of us. Your best days are behind you.
People get paid based on how much value they bring to the job.
Unless they're in a Union...
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I don't know that it matters. Farmers have been exploiting illegal aliens for years. In Alabama we don't want to participate in the New Slavery.Then your (Alabama's) harvest should have been better than normal since all those illegals weren't dragging down the skill levels of the farm workers ... :lol:
The hard left democrats were swept out of all state offices that matter. The legislature is now in the hands of the Republicans some of whom are conservatives.:lamo
The last of the George Wallace Democrats! "Southern Democrat" hasn't come close to being Democrat (liberal) for about thirty years - and well over fourty years in many states. All you guys did was finally replace all the D's with an R as the old Southern Democrats died or retired.
Only their names have changed. You can always tell them. They have cozy relationships with unions. They reward their friends with plum jobs (of the sort that Moochelle got) and send work to people who will funnel campaign contributions back to them.:lamo Deceitful every step of the way!
Liberal Democrats haven't been around that long.
Back again to you. The Democrats are gone. Good riddance.Ed:
And he repeats the lie - no doubt going by the typical Republican tenet that if you repeat the same lie often enough, people will start to believe it.
We are heading the right direction now that the Democrats have been swept out of office.When you're at the bottom all motion results in upward movement ...
Yeah - your opinion is worth all of the electrons it cost to post.
if it's good enough for the NFL (some of the BEST paid people in the country) it's good enough for the rest of us.So you're a pro-union guy?
this is not always the case.People get paid based on how much value they bring to the job.
because when the illegal goes home that money goes much further there then here and them getting paid less brings down the wage of the legals (which greedy scumbag employers love). as to your BTW... semantics.If it's a livable wage for an illegal alien, why isn't it a livable wage for a citizen?
(BTW, don't show your ignorance: A person does not need to be a citizen to be legal. It always amazes me how people can be oblivious enough about this issue to assume legal = citizen while also entertaining the absurd notion that they have the tools necessary to make an intelligent point in an immigration debate. That's an impossibility)
this is not always the case.
because when the illegal goes home that money goes much further there then here and them getting paid less brings down the wage of the legals (which greedy scumbag employers love).
as to your BTW... semantics.
again semantics.... it dosen't matter if it is them or the money either way it goes elsewhere. legals can't live on the same wage because it costs FAR more to live here then to live where these people are from. what is the excuse for YOUR ignorance?False premise. Most illegals do not go home. They often send money home to their families, though, which means that their livable wage is even lower than what they get paid. Why can't legals live on the same wage?
That's just some nonsense people say in order to excuse their ignorance.
I wrote, "People get paid based on how much value they bring to the job." To which you replied...
But that is the way to bet. Unions and government, or at its very worst a combination of the two, distort this concept. The result is usually increased unemployment at the margins where an employer no longer gets a greater value from the employee than it costs to use him or her.
again semantics.... it dosen't matter if it is them or the money either way it goes elsewhere. legals can't live on the same wage because it costs FAR more to live here then to live where these people are from. what is the excuse for YOUR ignorance?
i think he said they were sending the money back home (as in where they originally came from).But they ARE living here; I think that was his point.
i think he said they were sending the money back home (as in where they originally came from).
again semantics....
it dosen't matter if it is them or the money either way it goes elsewhere. legals can't live on the same wage because it costs FAR more to live here then to live where these people are from.
what is the excuse for YOUR ignorance?
Yes, that's what he said. But they are still living here ... and on even less than their low wages, as they're sending some of their wages home.
False premise. Most illegals do not go home. They often send money home to their families, though, which means that their livable wage is even lower than what they get paid. Why can't legals live on the same wage?
That's just some nonsense people say in order to excuse their ignorance.
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