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The Apocalypse of Peter

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The Apocalypse of Peter is a text we only have incomplete fragments of today. We have two incomplete fragments, one in Greek and another in Ethiopic. The text is believed to originate between 100- 150 AD. The text is listed on the Muratorian fragment, a list of texts that were used by the early church. It's an apocalyptic text of the Apostle Peter getting a vision from God about both Heaven and Hell.

Apocalypse of Peter​

Apocalypse of Peter​


The most colorful parts of the text is about how sinners of different kind are punished in Hell. Here are some juicy examples:
  • Women who had premarital sex have their flesh torn to pieces.
  • Disobedient slaves gnaw their tongues eternally.
  • Those who do not heed the counsel of their elders are attacked by flesh-devouring birds.
  • Men who take on the role of women in a sexual way, and lesbians, fall from the precipice of a great cliff repeatedly.
Note that there are no punishment for men who has premarital sex. The punishment for adultery:
  • Women who adorn themselves for the purpose of adultery are hung by their hair over a bubbling mire. The men who had adulterous relationships with them are hung by their genitals next to them.
So only if a man has an affair with a married woman will he be punished in Hell. This all honestly checks with the societal norms of the time it was written. And that's important to remember about these ancient texts. They descibe the world around them, and the morals of their age, ans has to be treates as that. However there are other texts that has the name: Apocalypse of Peter. A so called Gnostic Apocalypse of Peter, which is another text altogether was found in the Nag Hammadi library.

Gnostic Apocalypse of Peter​

The conclusion we can draw is that there were just alot of texts produced by early Christians. That many saw themselves inspired by their religion to produce holy texts, and of course that different traditions within the early church was eager to get their theology on text.

So why is the Apocalypse of Peter not in the Bible? We don't know. Unless many texts where some of the church fathers or other high ranking officials can give us a reason or clue, we simply have no comments on why this text was left out. It might have been considered too young (though there are texts in the New Testament from roughly the same time). Or it might have simply not caught on as important by enough of the early congregations. Or it might have been part of a theological dispute that is forgotten.
 
joluoto said:
So why is the Apocalypse of Peter not in the Bible? We don't know. Unless many texts where some of the church fathers or other high ranking officials can give us a reason or clue, we simply have no comments on why this text was left out. It might have been considered too young (though there are texts in the New Testament from roughly the same time). Or it might have simply not caught on as important by enough of the early congregations. Or it might have been part of a theological dispute that is forgotten.
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The Apocalypse of Peter was not accepted by early Christians into the collection of scriptures that became the Bible.
There were some early Christian writers who considered it inspired, but the general consensus left it out of the final canon of Scripture.
Not only do both versions of the text include imagery clearly drawn from Greek mythology, but the Apocalypse of Peter also diverges from well-established Biblical principles.
For these reasons, the Apocalypse of Peter was not included in the list of books of the Bible.

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What is the Apocalypse of Peter? Should the Apocalypse of Peter be in the Bible? Was the Apostle Peter the author of the Apocalypse of Peter?
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joluoto said:
The Apocalypse of Peter is a text we only have incomplete fragments of today. We have two incomplete fragments, one in Greek and another in Ethiopic. The text is believed to originate between 100- 150 AD. The text is listed on the Muratorian fragment, a list of texts that were used by the early church. It's an apocalyptic text of the Apostle Peter getting a vision from God about both Heaven and Hell.

Apocalypse of Peter​

Apocalypse of Peter​


The most colorful parts of the text is about how sinners of different kind are punished in Hell. Here are some juicy examples:
  • Women who had premarital sex have their flesh torn to pieces.
  • Disobedient slaves gnaw their tongues eternally.
  • Those who do not heed the counsel of their elders are attacked by flesh-devouring birds.
  • Men who take on the role of women in a sexual way, and lesbians, fall from the precipice of a great cliff repeatedly.
Note that there are no punishment for men who has premarital sex. The punishment for adultery:
  • Women who adorn themselves for the purpose of adultery are hung by their hair over a bubbling mire. The men who had adulterous relationships with them are hung by their genitals next to them.
So only if a man has an affair with a married woman will he be punished in Hell. This all honestly checks with the societal norms of the time it was written. And that's important to remember about these ancient texts. They descibe the world around them, and the morals of their age, ans has to be treates as that. However there are other texts that has the name: Apocalypse of Peter. A so called Gnostic Apocalypse of Peter, which is another text altogether was found in the Nag Hammadi library.

Gnostic Apocalypse of Peter​

The conclusion we can draw is that there were just alot of texts produced by early Christians. That many saw themselves inspired by their religion to produce holy texts, and of course that different traditions within the early church was eager to get their theology on text.

So why is the Apocalypse of Peter not in the Bible? We don't know. Unless many texts where some of the church fathers or other high ranking officials can give us a reason or clue, we simply have no comments on why this text was left out. It might have been considered too young (though there are texts in the New Testament from roughly the same time). Or it might have simply not caught on as important by enough of the early congregations. Or it might have been part of a theological dispute that is forgotten.
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This is a bunch of sick shit meant to scare the hell out of people.
 
joluoto said:
The Apocalypse of Peter is a text we only have incomplete fragments of today. We have two incomplete fragments, one in Greek and another in Ethiopic. The text is believed to originate between 100- 150 AD. The text is listed on the Muratorian fragment, a list of texts that were used by the early church. It's an apocalyptic text of the Apostle Peter getting a vision from God about both Heaven and Hell.

Apocalypse of Peter​

Apocalypse of Peter​


The most colorful parts of the text is about how sinners of different kind are punished in Hell. Here are some juicy examples:
  • Women who had premarital sex have their flesh torn to pieces.
  • Disobedient slaves gnaw their tongues eternally.
  • Those who do not heed the counsel of their elders are attacked by flesh-devouring birds.
  • Men who take on the role of women in a sexual way, and lesbians, fall from the precipice of a great cliff repeatedly.
Note that there are no punishment for men who has premarital sex. The punishment for adultery:
  • Women who adorn themselves for the purpose of adultery are hung by their hair over a bubbling mire. The men who had adulterous relationships with them are hung by their genitals next to them.
So only if a man has an affair with a married woman will he be punished in Hell. This all honestly checks with the societal norms of the time it was written. And that's important to remember about these ancient texts. They descibe the world around them, and the morals of their age, ans has to be treates as that. However there are other texts that has the name: Apocalypse of Peter. A so called Gnostic Apocalypse of Peter, which is another text altogether was found in the Nag Hammadi library.

Gnostic Apocalypse of Peter​

The conclusion we can draw is that there were just alot of texts produced by early Christians. That many saw themselves inspired by their religion to produce holy texts, and of course that different traditions within the early church was eager to get their theology on text.

So why is the Apocalypse of Peter not in the Bible? We don't know. Unless many texts where some of the church fathers or other high ranking officials can give us a reason or clue, we simply have no comments on why this text was left out. It might have been considered too young (though there are texts in the New Testament from roughly the same time). Or it might have simply not caught on as important by enough of the early congregations. Or it might have been part of a theological dispute that is forgotten.
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Apocalypse of Peter, also called Revelation To Peter, pseudepigraphal (noncanonical and unauthentic) Christian writing dating from the first half of the 2nd century ad. The unknown author, who claimed to be Peter the Apostle, relied on the canonical Gospels and on Revelation to John to construct a conversation between himself and Jesus regarding events at the end of the world. Unlike Revelation to John, however, the Apocalypse of Peter dwells on eternal rewards and punishments. The graphic account of the torments to be borne by sinful men was apparently borrowed from Orphic and Pythagorean religious texts, thereby introducing pagan ideas of heaven and hell into Christian literature. The most complete extant version (in Ethiopic) was discovered in 1910.


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Apocalypse of Peter | pseudepigraphal Christian writing

Apocalypse of Peter, also called Revelation To Peter, pseudepigraphal (noncanonical and unauthentic) Christian writing dating from the first half of the 2nd century ad. The unknown author, who claimed to be Peter the Apostle, relied on the canonical Gospels and on Revelation to John to...
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joluoto said:
So why is the Apocalypse of Peter not in the Bible? We don't know.
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The same reason none of the Gnostic Gospels are in the bible. The editor(s) couldn't reconcile the severity of the contradictions with other selected texts, or they just didn't feel some of the content supported the narrative they were looking for.
 
MamboDervish said:
The same reason none of the Gnostic Gospels are in the bible. The editor(s) couldn't reconcile the severity of the contradictions with other selected texts, or they just didn't feel some of the content supported the narrative they were looking for.
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Well when it comes to gnostic texts we have condemnations of some of them from early church leaders and thus have more meat on the bone to go with, we know why they did not like certain gnostic texts and can surmise they did not like other gnostic texts for the same reason. When it comes to texts like the Apocalypse of Peter where we have less clues we can guess the reasoning, but we simply don't know exactly why they didn't make the cut.
 
There's a fairly good chance that there is no God and there is no heaven and if that's the case then a gazillion people have argued about what ancient people said forever ago and live their lives by stuff they made up.
 
I always find Frontline helpful. Thank God for PBS.

From Jesus To Christ - The First Christians | FRONTLINE | PBS

FRONTLINE explores the life of Jesus and the rise of Christianity. Drawing upon new and sometimes controversial historical evidence and interviews with the nation's leading New Testament scholars, the program challenges familiar assumptions about the origins of Christianity
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This FRONTLINE series is an intellectual and visual guide to the new and controversial historical evidence which challenges familiar assumptions about the life of Jesus and the epic rise of Christianity.

For an overview of the series read the Synopsis. It includes links to some of the stories and material on this web site which expand the narrative.

This site is anchored by the testimony of New Testament theologians, archaeologists and historians who serve as both critics and storytellers. They address dozens of key issues, disagreements and critical problems relating to Jesus' life and the evolution of Christianity. Throughout the site, maps, charts (for example, the fortress of Masada), ancient texts (including Perpetua's diary), pictures of the archaeological discoveries, ancient imagery, and audio excerpts from the television program complement and illuminate the scholars'commentary.

A new addition to this site is the edited transcript of a two-day symposium at Harvard University. This symposium was a follow-up to the FRONTLINE broadcast and featured scholars' presentations, workshops and audience discussion.
 
joluoto said:
Well when it comes to gnostic texts we have condemnations of some of them from early church leaders and thus have more meat on the bone to go with, we know why they did not like certain gnostic texts and can surmise they did not like other gnostic texts for the same reason. When it comes to texts like the Apocalypse of Peter where we have less clues we can guess the reasoning, but we simply don't know exactly why they didn't make the cut.
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Because it wasn't written by Peter.
 
Logicman said:
Because it wasn't written by Peter.
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Since when has that stopped anything. The Gospels are not written by the people they were named after either.
 
joluoto said:
Since when has that stopped anything. The Gospels are not written by the people they were named after either.
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Why don't you guys ever do your homework?

FYI, the early church fathers were UNANIMOUS that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John wrote the Gospels that bear their names, thus making Matthew and John (plus Peter via Mark and Peter in his epistle) CONTEMPORARY EYEWITNESSES TO JESUS AND HIS RESURRECTION.
 
Loulit01 said:
This FRONTLINE series is an intellectual and visual guide to the new and controversial historical evidence which challenges familiar assumptions about the life of Jesus and the epic rise of Christianity.
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Leave it to Ivy League symposiums to question or deny the historical Gospels and Jesus Christ.
 
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