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The 14th Amendment Birthright Citizenship was intended for the children of freed slaves

And now it's going again.

The basis of the 1898 case is different in this respect, at least:
"That, at the time of his said birth, his mother and father were domiciled residents of the United States, and had established and enjoyed a permanent domicil and residence therein at said city and county of San Francisco, State aforesaid."

In the application of the Amendment today, there is no notice of whether the mother and father of the infant "were domiciled residents of the United States, and had established and enjoyed a permanent domicil." These days, a baby born an hour after the mother somehow makes it across the border, even if illegally, is given citizenship.
Because they are born here....as per the 14th Amendment.
 
With slow learners repetition works best
”All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
 
This is not complex.
It is a truth of history
And so I will repeat.
The 14th amendment Birthright Citizen clause was intended to protect the citizenship of the children born from freed slaves.
It was never intended for the children of people who are not citizens and who illegally entered out country.
This a fact.
It is a reality.
”All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
 
where does it say non citizens who illegally crossed our boarder
It doesn't ...but if their children are born here....that is addressed in the 14th.
 
my citation is the constitution
”All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
 
Why? there is no way to actually succeed in amending the constitution in the modern hyperpartisan environment, no matter what the policy argument is.

There will never be another successful amendment passed and ratified. Your proposed discussion is as relevant in our world as the Vulcan mindmelt.
"Vulcan Mindmeld"......I return you to our regularly scheduled thread.
 
If the "long settled black letter law" AS APPLIED

clashes against our right

to form a more perfect Union,
establish Justice,
insure domestic Tranquility,
promote the general Welfare,
and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".

Then its got to go
You know that's the Preamble, right? Not an Article nor an Amendment.
 
Even before then. The Girardoni rifle was in service in the Austrian army as early as 1780. This was preceded by more crude weapons like the Kalthoff repeater. The concept of repeating arms and magazines in general likely goes back to at least the ancient Greek and/or Roman polybolos.
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Even before then. The Girardoni rifle was in service in the Austrian army as early as 1780. This was preceded by more crude weapons like the Kalthoff repeater. The concept of repeating arms and magazines in general likely goes back to at least the ancient Greek and/or Roman polybolos.
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That's spears....not muskets.
 
Post-Civil War reforms focused on injustices to African Americans.
The 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868 to protect the rights of native-born Black Americans, whose rights were being denied as recently-freed slaves.
It was written in a manner so as to prevent state governments from ever denying citizenship to Blacks born in the United States.
But in 1868, the United States had no formal immigration policy, and the authors therefore saw no need to address immigration explicitly in the amendment.
The United States did not limit immigration in 1868 when the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified.
Thus by definition there were no illegal immigrants and the issue of citizenship for children of those here in violation of the law was nonexistent.
The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" was intended to exclude American-born persons from automatic citizenship whose allegiance to the United States was not complete.
With illegal aliens who are unlawfully in the United States, their native country has a claim of allegiance on the child.
Thus, the completeness of their allegiance to the United States is impaired, which therefore precludes automatic citizenship.

Comment:
Birthright Citizenship was never intended for the children of people who illegally entered our country.
It was intended to protect the children of freed slaves.
It is automatically assumed that Birthright Citizenship includes the children of American citizens.
Therefore if neither of the parents of a child who is born on American soil are American citizens, then that child should not be granted birthright citizenship.
Futher EVIDENCE that the 14A ONLY gave citizenship to Afro-Americans - Congress treated each state territory or ethnic group specifically

ALASKANS


The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924, granting full citizenship to American Indians and Alaska Native Americans.

Puerto Ricans
Puerto Ricans were granted US citizenship by the Jones-Shafroth Act on March 2, 1917

American Indians
The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924, granting full citizenship to American Indians and Alaska Native Americans.

Hawaiians
A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. (June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch
 
If the "long settled black letter law" AS APPLIED

clashes against our right

to form a more perfect Union,
establish Justice,
insure domestic Tranquility,
promote the general Welfare,
and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity".
It doesn’t.
Then its got to go
You don’t get a say lol. It’song settled black letter law. You can whine into your pillow all night long. Nobody cares.
 
Irrelevant

The STate of New Jersey - a NORTHERN STATE OBJECTED TO THE 14A Thusly


The New Jersey Legislature by Resolution on March 27, 1868, protested as follows:

The said proposed amendment not having yet received the assent of three fourths of the States, which is necessary to make it valid, the natural and constitutional right of this State to withdraw its assent is undeniable....
That it being necessary by the Constitution that every amendment to the same should be proposed by two thirds of both houses of Congress, the authors of said proposition, for the purpose of securing the assent of the requisite majority, determined to, and did, exclude from the said two houses eighty representatives from eleven States of the Union, upon the pretense that there were no such States in the Union; but, finding that two thirds of the remainder of the said houses could not be brought to assent to the said proposition, they deliberately formed and carried out the design of mutilating the integrity of the United States Senate, and without any pretext or justification, other than the possession of the power, without the right, and in the palpable violation of the Constitution, ejected a member of their own body, representing this State, and thus practically denied to New Jersey its equal suffrage in the Senate, and thereby nominally secured the vote of two thirds of the said house.(3)

(3) New Jersey Acts, 27 March 1868.​
Meaningless
 
Futher EVIDENCE that the 14A ONLY gave citizenship to Afro-Americans - Congress treated each state territory or ethnic group specifically

ALASKANS


The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924, granting full citizenship to American Indians and Alaska Native Americans.

Puerto Ricans
Puerto Ricans were granted US citizenship by the Jones-Shafroth Act on March 2, 1917

American Indians
The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924, granting full citizenship to American Indians and Alaska Native Americans.

Hawaiians
A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. (June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch
US v Wong Kim Ark.

You lose
 
Futher EVIDENCE that the 14A ONLY gave citizenship to Afro-Americans - Congress treated each state territory or ethnic group specifically

ALASKANS


The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924, granting full citizenship to American Indians and Alaska Native Americans.

Puerto Ricans
Puerto Ricans were granted US citizenship by the Jones-Shafroth Act on March 2, 1917

American Indians
The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924, granting full citizenship to American Indians and Alaska Native Americans.

Hawaiians
A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. (June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch

”All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
 
Futher EVIDENCE that the 14A ONLY gave citizenship to Afro-Americans - Congress treated each state territory or ethnic group specifically

ALASKANS


The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924, granting full citizenship to American Indians and Alaska Native Americans.

Puerto Ricans
Puerto Ricans were granted US citizenship by the Jones-Shafroth Act on March 2, 1917

American Indians
The Indian Citizenship Act of 1924, also known as the Snyder Act, was signed into law by President Calvin Coolidge on June 2, 1924, granting full citizenship to American Indians and Alaska Native Americans.

Hawaiians
A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. (June 27, 1952, ch. 477, title III, ch
The children of foreign diplomats who are born on American soil are also not granted birthright citizenship because they under the jurisdiction of another country, not America.
This jurisdiction word confuses the dumbass Woksters.

 
The children of foreign diplomats who are born on American soil are also not granted birthright citizenship because they under the jurisdiction of another country, not America.
This jurisdiction word confuses the dumbass Woksters.

They are the sole exception to 14th amendment birthright citizenship, as they have diplomatic immunity. Every other person on US soil is subject to US jurisdiction. Immigration status is completely meaningless. Plyler v doe.
 
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