OH? WHY? Are you afraid of what you might have learned, that you previously were ignorant about (as proved by the errors my post pointed out)?
WHERE IS ME MAKING ANY SUCH CLAIM? I only need to prove claims I actually make, not claims YOU make about what I write!
THEN YOU ARE DEFINITELY MAKING UP STUFF ABOUT WHAT I WROTE. A brain-dead adult on life-support is typically on life-support for hours, and sometimes days and weeks. There used to be court cases about the ethics of "pulling the plug" on that life-support (fairly rare nowadays), after a determination of brain-death had been verified.
MORE THAN THAT; YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A BIOLOGICAL LIFE-FORM. A bacterium can live for years with zero brain activity, but it is still considered to be alive the whole time! At **no** point in any part of the message I quoted did you specify the phrase "human being". --and therefore I was completely free to challenge statements you made that could easily/generically be erroneously talking about ordinary life-forms like bacteria and rats and cats and dogs and hogs. Like this one:
--STUPIDLY FALSE; killing is generally about stopping organized biological activity, regardless of whether or not brain activity exists!
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET A LINK FROM ME SUPPORTING SOMETHING I DID NOT CLAIM.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE GENERIC DENUNCIATION. Are you unable to point out an actual specific flaw in what I wrote? I've noted that abortion opponents routinely fall back to the failure-mode of making generic denunciations, after they discover that the idiocy they spouted was proved to be idiocy. Do you really want to be lumped with that sort of idiocy?
FACTS ARE FACTS, and I not only presented a number of facts, I provided supporting links. If you want to claim something I wrote was just an opinion, why don't you exactly specify the thing I wrote, that you claim was just an opinion? Because no one needs to believe you, if you can't do that simple thing!!!
Good point, but I was joking!
IT PROVES SOMETHING I WROTE --that the bodies of brain-dead humans can be kept alive for a long time. I said nothing about the human body being the same thing as a human person --that's an error typically made by ignorant abortion opponents. But what a living human body IS, is an animal entity, just like a living rabbit is an animal entity. IT (THE BODY ONLY) IS ALIVE, not dead.
RIGHT. THEY EITHER IGNORANTLY AND FALSELY THINK THAT THE HUMAN BODY IS THE PERSON --or they think that a dead person (the mind formerly associated with that body) can come back to life, an article of faith that they have the right to believe in a country with Freedom of Religion.
STUPIDLY FALSE. In the early part of a pregnancy a brainless fetus is very equivalent to an adult human body with a dead brain. Both BODIES are alive (and are on "life-support")!
BECAUSE YOU WILL LOSE! HAW! HAW!! HAW!!! The definition of "life" is far more about organized biological activity than mentation!
STUPIDLY FALSE. The definition of "life" is far more about organized biological activity than mentation! While in the future that definition will need some modification (because of future True Artificial Intelligences), that time is not yet "now".
THE FACTS ARE ON MY SIDE, NOT YOURS. A zygote is a single-celled living thing, extremely equivalent to many many other living single-celled organisms, like amoeba and paramecia. When it divides, there are now two such living entities. When it keeps dividing we get a large number of individual living things. In the embryo stage that mass of living cells starts the process of getting organized, generally forming a single living entity of the multi-celled type. The fetal stage begins when the organization process has been finished. For mammals generally, we care nothing about their brain activity --the fetal stage of every such mammal is considered to be alive! So why are you exhibiting Stupidity about unborn human mammals, eh?
HOW ABOUT 100,000 RESULTS REGARDING FETAL LIFE?
HAW! HAW!! HAW!!!
BECAUSE YOU LOST!!! Period.
I know you are...but I'm not.
I don't believe people who have treated others badly while they were alive...should, at their last moments, need to be given special treatment, be given forgiveness and his or her behaviors just forgotten as though they didn't happen. Or that they be pitied by his or her victims on their deathbed. I know that sounds cruel. While some people change, most don't really change who they inherently were over the course of his or her life. But a lot of people who are on their deathbed are keenly aware of just how much pain and misery that they inflicted on others. So IMO, I don't believe that they deserve a loving send off.
I had a relative who molested his a two of his young female grandchildren over several years. In his last hours - well just let's say that karma wasn't his friend. His two grown granddaughters showed up for a few minutes to remind him that he was a incestuous pedophile...and walked away. His dying moments weren't probably how he expected it to be. There were others present who were witness to his granddaughters comments to him - left his side to allow him to ponder his sins just before he died. If he was capable of feeling shame, guilt, and remorse...that's how he felt as he died. But his granddaughters had harbored all of those feelings of guilt, shame, and remorse resulting from his behaviors for a lot of years of their lives before he died. They finally felt a sense of redemption and relief. So yes, karma can be a mofo.
FALSE. You have been **proved** wrong over and over and over and over and over again.
A SUBJECTIVE CLAIM WITH ZERO OBJECTIVE SUPPORT. This is what happens when two different claims about "right" run into each other.
YET ANOTHER UNSUPPORTED AND THEREFORE WORTHLESS CLAIM. When will you start supporting your claims with actual evidence?
YOUR MERE SAY-SO IS STILL WORTHLESS WHEN NOT SUPPORTED WITH EVIDENCE.
THE DEBATE PROCESS IS INDEED THAT SIMPLE. Unsupported claims can be thrown out and ignored, **always**.
THE ISSUE OF THE MOMENT IS THAT YOU ARE SIMPLY WRONG. You have not got even one Objectively Valid reason to oppose abortion.
SINCE YOU SUPPORT THE EVILS OF SLAVERY AND GENOCIDE, WHILE PRO-CHOICERS DON'T, the answer to your question should be obvious.
BE SPECIFIC. Just because you claim that a policy is evil, that doesn't mean you are correct.
TOO BAD FOR YOU THAT YOUR "WHEN" (above) DOES NOT APPLY TO PRO-CHOICERS! Because the the conclusion doesn't apply, either!
