THC toxicity

[JacksinPA]

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My only problem with THC (capsule form) is the very rapid build-up of tolerance.

 

[HIP56948]

I'm a cheap high, sort of as a cheap drunk. 'bout 2 hits and I'm pretty much flying.
(Yes, I have the Florida card and all that) One of the few things that Florida does right.

 

[MamboDervish]

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There has never been a documented human fatality solely from overdosing on tetrahydrocannabinol or cannabis in its natural form. However, numerous reports have suggested an association of cannabis smoking with an increased risk of myocardial infarction.
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My only problem with THC (capsule form) is the very rapid build-up of tolerance.

Perhaps this is true, but I do personally know one challenged idiot, still in his late 20's, who has been hospitalized, not once, not twice, but three times for overdosing on pot.

(I know, I know. How is that even possible? But there it is.)

Granted, I don't know if it was "... in it's natural form." He might have been gobbling up edibles and vaping at the same time, but ... Geeez! How bad do your own survival instincts have to be to not know you've exceeded your red line ..... again?

 

[ModernDiogenes]

I'm a cheap high, sort of as a cheap drunk. 'bout 2 hits and I'm pretty much flying.
(Yes, I have the Florida card and all that) One of the few things that Florida does right.

I think cannabis is a great antidepressant. At least it has been for me. I never smoked pot until I was in my late fifties. Having a government job that could require me to pee in a bottle and all. Plus I don’t really like the feeling of being intoxicated. Too much of a control freak to surrender control to a substance changed state I suppose.

Still, the pain that comes with aging and the damage of what I use to do (physically and mentally) makes for a bit of the blues now and then. Every once and awhile I get down without my usual return and it lingers. I find just
a couple of tokes, it never takes much, in the right company and I remember how to laugh again. It stays and I don’t require more. I smoke maybe two or three times a year when I feel it will help. Glad it’s there at those times.

I wish there was more study into cannabinoids.

 

[Superfly]

I think cannabis is a great antidepressant. At least it has been for me. I never smoked pot until I was in my late fifties. Having a government job that could require me to pee in a bottle and all. Plus I don’t really like the feeling of being intoxicated. Too much of a control freak to surrender control to a substance changed state I suppose.

Still, the pain that comes with aging and the damage of what I use to do (physically and mentally) makes for a bit of the blues now and then. Every once and awhile I get down without my usual return and it lingers. I find just
a couple of tokes, it never takes much, in the right company and I remember how to laugh again. It stays and I don’t require more. I smoke maybe two or three times a year when I feel it will help. Glad it’s there at those times.

I wish there was more study into cannabinoids.

I could have written almost this entire post myself. I ache all day. I wake up at about a 6 and hover there all day. If a front is coming, I bounce up to a 7.

I can’t take anything. Nothing works. My doctors have tried everything, but I have both arthritis and fibromyalgia, and I just don’t have anything that helps with my pain - except for weed.

Also helps with my anxiety and sleeplessness.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

Perhaps this is true, but I do personally know one challenged idiot, still in his late 20's, who has been hospitalized, not once, not twice, but three times for overdosing on pot.

(I know, I know. How is that even possible? But there it is.)

Granted, I don't know if it was "... in it's natural form." He might have been gobbling up edibles and vaping at the same time, but ... Geeez! How bad do your own survival instincts have to be to not know you've exceeded your red line ..... again?

Light weight wannabes be checking themself in. Thats funny shit.

 

[The Stars Tremble]

Light weight wannabes be checking themself in. Thats funny shit.

It's really not. People with schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, or even bipolar disorder, shouldn't smoke pot. They probably shouldn't drink either.

 

[MamboDervish]

Light weight wannabes be checking themself in. Thats funny shit.

One might think ... but not in this case. Out cold, taken by ambulance, and a couple of days in the hospital on each occasion. There must be some threshold of toxicity - and he must have reached it.

 

[JacksinPA]

Perhaps this is true, but I do personally know one challenged idiot, still in his late 20's, who has been hospitalized, not once, not twice, but three times for overdosing on pot.

(I know, I know. How is that even possible? But there it is.)

Granted, I don't know if it was "... in it's natural form." He might have been gobbling up edibles and vaping at the same time, but ... Geeez! How bad do your own survival instincts have to be to not know you've exceeded your red line ..... again?

Sounds like he was doing a combo. Pot will get you into fits of hysterical laughter (my own experience) but the only way it could get you hospitalized is by droppiong a 10-lb brick of it on your foot.

 

[MamboDervish]

Sounds like he was doing a combo. Pot will get you into fits of hysterical laughter (my own experience) but the only way it could get you hospitalized is by droppiong a 10-lb brick of it on your foot.

He wasn't, but I suspect he may have other health deficiencies that are aggravated by .... vaping??

In any event, for it to happen more than once is astonishing. More than twice !!?? WTF? He's the son of a friend, and he needs help, but after totally destroying 4 cars, his dad is washing his hands of him. He's an "adult", he's been arrested, and he's been warned multiple times. Either he'll get the message, or wind up institutionalized ... one way or another.

 

[samiam5211]

Perhaps this is true, but I do personally know one challenged idiot, still in his late 20's, who has been hospitalized, not once, not twice, but three times for overdosing on pot.

(I know, I know. How is that even possible? But there it is.)

Granted, I don't know if it was "... in it's natural form." He might have been gobbling up edibles and vaping at the same time, but ... Geeez! How bad do your own survival instincts have to be to not know you've exceeded your red line ..... again?

he did not overdose on pot.

 

[MamboDervish]

he did not overdose on pot.

Tell the doctor. That was his medical diagnosis.

 

[JacksinPA]

He wasn't, but I suspect he may have other health deficiencies that are aggravated by .... vaping??

In any event, for it to happen more than once is astonishing. More than twice !!?? WTF? He's the son of a friend, and he needs help, but after totally destroying 4 cars, his dad is washing his hands of him. He's an "adult", he's been arrested, and he's been warned multiple times. Either he'll get the message, or wind up institutionalized ... one way or another.

I loved Manhattan when I lived on W87th St back in the late 60s. Near Columbus Ave. Worked at Union Carbide: Park Ave & 47th. Used to take a different routes walking from work to Columbus Cir. after work every day, just following the traffic lights at each intersection. Saw a lot of that part of NYC. Wish I could do it again.

Back then I loved collecting VPLs from the ladies I passed. Developed a keen obsession for female underwear as a young guy who was still a virgin.

 

[MamboDervish]

I loved Manhattan when I lived on W87th St back in the late 60s. Near Columbus Ave. Worked at Union Carbide: Park Ave & 47th. Used to take a different routes walking from work to Columbus Cir. after work every day, just following the traffic lights at each intersection. Saw a lot of that part of NYC. Wish I could do it again.

I'm sure NYC would welcome you. I've lived up here in Harlem for more than 15 years now, and I rue the day I'll be forced into retirement, and have to leave for economic reasons. I love my neighbors and my neighborhood, I love being able to walk to anything I need or want, and I love NYC mass transit when I can't. I'm lucky to be here.

 

[JacksinPA]

I loved Manhattan when I lived on W87th St back in the late 60s. Near Columbus Ave. Worked at Union Carbide: Park Ave & 47th. Used to take a different routes walking from work to Columbus Cir. after work every day, just following the traffic lights at each intersection. Saw a lot of that part of NYC. Wish I could do it again.

I'm sure NYC would welcome you. I've lived up here in Harlem for more than 15 years now, and I rue the day I'll be forced into retirement, and have to leave for economic reasons. I love my neighbors and my neighborhood, I love being able to walk to anything I need or want, and I love NYC mass transit when I can't. I'm lucky to be here.

A ride on the LL train, which switched from CPW to an ave to the east cost me 15 cents then. Now it's around $3.

The LL no longer runs for some reason. Saved me a lot of AM walking.

 

[justabubba]

It's really not. People with schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, or even bipolar disorder, shouldn't smoke pot. They probably shouldn't drink either.

re schizophrenia
my limited experience is that neither of the afflicted were inclined to take their prescribed drugs
both benefitted from smoking MJ. it toned down their manic behaviors. their prescriptions would probably have been the better choice, but they avoided that experience

re bipolar
that individual i knew to be so afflicted avoided her meds and MJ
but when she imbibed MJ socially, it seemed to de-escalate her inclination toward behaviors

in ^ those instances, becoming mellow was a positive

 

[samiam5211]

Tell the doctor. That was his medical diagnosis.

Then the doctor was wrong, or your friend was lying.

He may have had a panic attack, but he didn't OD on weed. There wasn't anything that the doctor did to save his life, he would have been fine if he had stayed at home and watched a few episodes of Family Guy.

 

[MamboDervish]

A ride on the LL train, which switched from CPW to an ave to the east cost me 15 cents then. Now it's around $3.

The LL no longer runs for some reason. Saved me a lot of AM walking.

Many big changes since your day, and at least a few that, alas, I probably won't live long enough to see.

There's a 2nd Ave subway that already goes up to 96th Street, and the governor plans to have it advance to 125th, and go clear across town to B'way - a brilliant move IMO, as I recommended that back in '05.

The 7 Line now continues west to 10th, then south to the Javits convention center, sparking huge development over the Hudson Train Yards at the north end of the High Line elevated park. We have Michael Bloomberg to thank for that one. (No train lines or stations can be built anywhere without having at least one strong politician shepherding the project.)

And there've been murmurings of finally starting to reclaim the existing right-of-way for the Triboro Rx, which would make it the only major subway line to serve three outer boroughs, while completely circumnavigating Manhattan - a long over due enterprise.

Interborough Express

Running 24 miles on existing track from Co-op City in the Bronx to Bay Ridge in Brooklyn, the Triboro would be an above-ground rail line connecting 17 subway lines and 4 commuter lines.

rpa.org

 

[MamboDervish]

Then the doctor was wrong, or your friend was lying.

He may have had a panic attack, but he didn't OD on weed. There wasn't anything that the doctor did to save his life, he would have been fine if he had stayed at home and watched a few episodes of Family Guy.

Like I said, tell the doctor. Panic attacks don't require hospital stays.

 

[samiam5211]

Like I said, tell the doctor. Panic attacks don't require hospital stays.

If you provide me the Dr's contact info, i will happily tell him.

 

[anatta]

re schizophrenia
my limited experience is that neither of the afflicted were inclined to take their prescribed drugs
both benefitted from smoking MJ. it toned down their manic behaviors. their prescriptions would probably have been the better choice, but they avoided that experience

re bipolar
that individual i knew to be so afflicted avoided her meds and MJ
but when she imbibed MJ socially, it seemed to de-escalate her inclination toward behaviors

in ^ those instances, becoming mellow was a positive

good point. both types of condition management depend on taking meds. Im not sure why but both types of cases can be resistent to taking their meds

 

[MamboDervish]

If you provide me the Dr's contact info, i will happily tell him.

Needless to say, why would I bother? I'm just relating the details from his father. I really don't give a shit if you believe it or not.

Like I said, the kid has other health issues. For all I know, for all anyone knows, including you, he's allergic to pot. But panic attacks don't leave a person unconscious and hospitalized for days.

And, for the record, you can overdose on anything. Even Oxygen and water, both of which are essential to life. So ... there's that.

 

[Grand Mal]

I think cannabis is a great antidepressant. At least it has been for me. I never smoked pot until I was in my late fifties. Having a government job that could require me to pee in a bottle and all. Plus I don’t really like the feeling of being intoxicated. Too much of a control freak to surrender control to a substance changed state I suppose.

Still, the pain that comes with aging and the damage of what I use to do (physically and mentally) makes for a bit of the blues now and then. Every once and awhile I get down without my usual return and it lingers. I find just
a couple of tokes, it never takes much, in the right company and I remember how to laugh again. It stays and I don’t require more. I smoke maybe two or three times a year when I feel it will help. Glad it’s there at those times.

I wish there was more study into cannabinoids.

It's possible that it isn't the THC that you're benefiting from but CBD, another active compound in pot. CBD doesn't get you high. There's varieties that have high CBD content and low THC.

 

[Grand Mal]

I could have written almost this entire post myself. I ache all day. I wake up at about a 6 and hover there all day. If a front is coming, I bounce up to a 7.

I can’t take anything. Nothing works. My doctors have tried everything, but I have both arthritis and fibromyalgia, and I just don’t have anything that helps with my pain - except for weed.

Also helps with my anxiety and sleeplessness.

Have you tried a high-CBD, low-THC variety? Sometimes it's the CBD that relieved pain, not THC. CBD doesn't get you stoned.

 

[anatta]

Have you tried a high-CBD, low-THC variety? Sometimes it's the CBD that relieved pain, not THC. CBD doesn't get you stoned.

ive never had any luck with pain relief on CBD. My doc agrees it doesnt help. might help with inflammation that leads to pain
It does help with regulation of the endocannibinoid system -cannabinoid receptors that help regulate several functions in the human body.

Endocannabinoids: What are they and what do they do?

What are endocannabinoids and the endocannabinoid system? Read on to discover more about the ECS, including its function and potential therapeutic uses.

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