Thanks for not raping us, all you ‘good men.’ But it’s not enough.

[Hawkeye10]

Let me reword this:


Voila! Just change "men" with "Muslim" and this becomes the ravings of a Trumpanzee.

PS: Yeah, Kavanaugh is a rapist. The Republicans who support him are scumbags. If it weren't for them or the likes of Harvey Weinstein, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.

Trumpanzee is Second Grade vocab I hope you understand.

Doing better is always a good idea.

 

[PirateMk1]

Male culture might include an acceptance of locker room talk which by definition is boasting of sexual conquests both real and imagined. Generally the woman talked about is not so thrilled. I would not be proud of my son if he joined in or encouraged such behavior. Just an easy example

I have heard women talk when they think no man is around, men are tame and boring comparatively speaking. I was a fly on the wall, the experience was, shall we say, enlightening.

 

[PirateMk1]

Any idea where I can find a P**** hat in size 7 5/8?:wink2:

I have a one liner thats works perfectly, that I cant use up here. I dont know if I can get away with using the spoiler alert thingy. :damn Oh the puns and innuendo opportunities I am missing with this perfect lead in, all because its up here in the polite section. Arrrrrrghhh. Oh well. :shrug:

 

[Hawkeye10]

I have heard women talk when they think no man is around, men are tame and boring comparatively speaking. I was a fly on the wall, the experience was, shall we say, enlightening.

And then when you watch an old Hen PHD like Ford on national TV pretending that she is a late blooming 13 year you understand what is happening......

 

[Tim the plumber]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/10/12/thanks-not-raping-us-all-you-good-men-its-not-enough/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.95cb224c2bc8

This seems to be what the author is pissed off about -


At the risk of being yelled at, if I'm a good guy and I don't assault women the odds are that I don't hang around with guys that do assault women. That being the case, I really don't have anyone to yell at. I suppose I could go around yelling at random people who look like they might be a sexual predator but if I did that then I would no longer be a good guy. I'd be a lunatic.

I'm not really sure what the author expects men to do. Heck, I'm not sure that the author knows what SHE expects men to do.

What is the chance the author has ever had a conversation with a man that she actually listened to?

 

[Aberration]

Why would she lower herself to listening to mansplaining?

 

[holbritter]

Let me reword this:


Voila! Just change "men" with "Muslim" and this becomes the ravings of a Trumpanzee.

PS: Yeah, Kavanaugh is a rapist. The Republicans who support him are scumbags. If it weren't for them or the likes of Harvey Weinstein, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.

You have a link? I don't remember anyone even claiming he raped them.

 

[Hawkeye10]

You have a link? I don't remember anyone even claiming he raped them.

As if the difference between rape and attempted rape means anything post #METOO....so much as a hint of either can ruin a man in days...which was rather the point.

Men must be kept in line, behind women, where we belong.

 

[straykatz]

As if the difference between rape and attempted rape means anything post #METOO....so much as a hint of either can ruin a man in days...which was rather the point.

Men must be kept in line, behind women, where we belong.

As a woman I do NOT think like that nor do the majority of women. What I do think is that many young men are not taught how to respect a female and many females are not taught how to respect themself so when you put these 2 types together you end up with a recipe for disaster which is generally in the form of some type of abuse whether it be physical, sexual, or mental.

 

[Hawkeye10]

As a woman I do NOT think like that nor do the majority of women. What I do think is that many young men are not taught how to respect a female and many females are not taught how to respect themself so when you put these 2 types together you end up with a recipe for disaster which is generally in the form of some type of abuse whether it be physical, sexual, or mental.

But women respect men and know how to treat men well and want to just fine right?

No they dont way too often, and the younger they are the worse they are.

When it comes to anyone under 30 if there is a victim gender it is men.

 

[Mithrae]

Yet I see are people attacking her, and not listening to what she was saying. The pain and heartache. You just ignore it

It's interesting and a little sad how many people feel compelled to 'take a side' on this opinion piece, to either support her or condemn her. "Gender war" was a phrase from the article which caught my eye - seems everything always has to be a war for Americans :lol:

It's kind of implied in the article that this woman was a victim of sexual assault and the recent media circus had resurfaced that trauma. That would certainly make sense of her abusive tirade at her husband, and his tolerance of it. If this were a private blog, her need to vent her feelings and regret might be understandable, even laudable.

But this is the Washington Post, and feelings really aren't a substitute for clear, reasonable communication. Even under the assumption that she had a valid point in there somewhere, on the whole the article is far more likely to create alienation than positive action. Probably the only real effect will be to help prod thousands of new MGTOWs and Jordan Peterson fans, which is quite sad.

 

[Felis Leo]

When you're ready to understand her point, it will be right there waiting for you.

What do you think her point is, Phys251? Because she seems to be ensconced in toxic, misdirected rage.

 

[Felis Leo]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/10/12/thanks-not-raping-us-all-you-good-men-its-not-enough/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.95cb224c2bc8

This seems to be what the author is pissed off about -


At the risk of being yelled at, if I'm a good guy and I don't assault women the odds are that I don't hang around with guys that do assault women. That being the case, I really don't have anyone to yell at. I suppose I could go around yelling at random people who look like they might be a sexual predator but if I did that then I would no longer be a good guy. I'd be a lunatic.

I'm not really sure what the author expects men to do. Heck, I'm not sure that the author knows what SHE expects men to do.

I do not know if anyone has mentioned it yet, I have not read everyone's responses in the thread. But you know what I dislike most about this article? The fact that this former history professor feels the need to publicly air her haranguing of her husband. I come from a tradition where private conversations, including arguments, are kept between husbands and wives and not put out on the pages of newspapers or social media. This appears like such self-indulgent, self-absorbed, overwrought emotional expectoration masquerading as some kind of deeper wisdom. One would have thought that after 70 years on this planet, this woman would have attained a greater level of wisdom, grace and dignity in approaching major problems, and certainly not use the humiliation and haranguing of her own husband as an object lesson.

 

[Felis Leo]

I think one can be a “good guy” and still be complicit in the perpetuation of rape culture.

I think the rant in the op is directed at men who need to be told something that should be self-evident: that there is something about male culture That is fundamentally toxic

Apparently "male culture" is so toxic that it can force a woman to yell and harangue her admittedly good husband at the slightest emotional pinprick and use him as her emotional punching bag. And then post an article of it on the internet where she takes no responsibility for her actions whatsoever, because she is apparently a puppet on the strings of male oppression.

 

[joko104]

I wonder what the Washington Post article in the OP says.

 

[Mason66]

Life is too short to live with a severely mentally unstable person.

 

[TobyOne]

My appreciation of delicious sandwiches?

And this is what makes anti-feminists just as evil as feminists like the woman in the OP.

 

[Gaius46]

Let me reword this:


Voila! Just change "men" with "Muslim" and this becomes the ravings of a Trumpanzee.

PS: Yeah, Kavanaugh is a rapist. The Republicans who support him are scumbags. If it weren't for them or the likes of Harvey Weinstein, we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.

No one has made that allegation. You have some secret proof? Or maybe you don't know what the work rape actually means?

 

[Gaius46]

I have heard women talk when they think no man is around, men are tame and boring comparatively speaking. I was a fly on the wall, the experience was, shall we say, enlightening.

Lol. When my brother was on the NYPD I went out with him and a bunch of cops friends - both male and female. A couple of the women were talking about some of their recent conquests in ways that if I wasn't looking right them would have had me thinking they were guys. Figured it must be a cop thing. Found out over time that there are plenty of women who can match men dirt-for-dirt.

 

[Acadia]

You have a link? I don't remember anyone even claiming he raped them.

No one did, but some people bought into the hit job and now Kav is a beer-guzzling, 'lude dropping, gang rapist:roll:

 

[Acadia]

I do not know if anyone has mentioned it yet, I have not read everyone's responses in the thread. But you know what I dislike most about this article? The fact that this former history professor feels the need to publicly air her haranguing of her husband. I come from a tradition where private conversations, including arguments, are kept between husbands and wives and not put out on the pages of newspapers or social media. This appears like such self-indulgent, self-absorbed, overwrought emotional expectoration masquerading as some kind of deeper wisdom. One would have thought that after 70 years on this planet, this woman would have attained a greater level of wisdom, grace and dignity in approaching major problems, and certainly not use the humiliation and haranguing of her own husband as an object lesson.

I thought the same thing and may have posted it yesterday. I wonder if the author asked her husband if he was OK with her publishing this excoriating attack on his humanity.
Why did she feel it appropriate to share it with the world?
I have my theories, including this sad and growing need for VALIDATION, , vis a vis social media, which has inured us to peaking behind curtains and living in transparent households.
And I'll just bet that this writer deep down knows what she did was inexcusable, but could not help herself in resisting the urge to get her conscience soothed by the 3rd-wave feminists who will rally behind her with their notions of toxic masculinity and competitive victimhood.
They won't say, "How could you do this to your husband?". They will say, "What took you so long and why don't you do it more often?".

 

[Hawkeye10]

I thought the same thing and may have posted it yesterday. I wonder if the author asked her husband if he was OK with her publishing this excoriating attack on his humanity.
Why did she feel it appropriate to share it with the world?
I have my theories, including this sad and growing need for VALIDATION, , vis a vis social media, which has inured us to peaking behind curtains and living in transparent households.
And I'll just bet that this writer deep down knows what she did was inexcusable, but could not help herself in resisting the urge to get her conscience soothed by the 3rd-wave feminists who will rally behind her with their notions of toxic masculinity and competitive victimhood.
They won't say, "How could you do this to your husband?". They will say, "What took you so long and why don't you do it more often?".

Talking about all the ways that men suck is so very in vogue.

Permission from men to talk about this is certainly not required.

 

[vesper]

If you don't mind, I'm going to "mansplain" what you just said...

The woman was raised to be a damned princess. She popped her cork on her husband of 50 years not because of anything he did or didn't do but because of something he didn't even THINK of doing. There's one reason and one reason only things got to that point...she never let him know how she felt. She comes from the school of thought that men are just supposed to know these things and act on them because she figures she's owed that "courtesy". Well, the fact of the matter is that people in general don't have a clue in the world that they're supposed do or act a certain way unless you tell them that kind of thing in advance. There isn't a man on the planet that's going to think "Gee, even though my wife hasn't said anything and even though I've never so much as looked at another woman in the 50 years we've been married and even though she's never even hinted that I should be a social activist, I'm going to round the boys up and start a 'men's awareness group regarding sexual assault'". If there are women out there that think their men SHOULD act that way...then it's only reasonable for them to let their men know BEFORE they pop a gasket.

Luther back in the day, men and women did a damn good job of working together for the sake of their children. Rich or poor, their focus was on these lives they brought into this world, not themselves. That's why divorces were so rare. That is why most kids grew up with not too many screws loose. The man was considered the head of the house but in doing so everything he made decisions on first was in consultation with his wife. The mother was seen as the heart of the home just as equal in power and purpose as the head. Head and Heart is a team that can't be defeated unless the head does not fulfill his duties or the heart goes bad. Then you have a pile of **** where the children suffer.

 

[YorkshirePete]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/10/12/thanks-not-raping-us-all-you-good-men-its-not-enough/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.95cb224c2bc8

This seems to be what the author is pissed off about -


At the risk of being yelled at, if I'm a good guy and I don't assault women the odds are that I don't hang around with guys that do assault women. That being the case, I really don't have anyone to yell at. I suppose I could go around yelling at random people who look like they might be a sexual predator but if I did that then I would no longer be a good guy. I'd be a lunatic.

I'm not really sure what the author expects men to do. Heck, I'm not sure that the author knows what SHE expects men to do.

Not really applicable to this old white fart forum where our white boys can't remember the last time they got it up.
All sucking off their socialist SS Medicare VA benefits

 

[Mithrae]

Luther back in the day, men and women did a damn good job of working together for the sake of their children. Rich or poor, their focus was on these lives they brought into this world, not themselves. That's why divorces were so rare. That is why most kids grew up with not too many screws loose. The man was considered the head of the house but in doing so everything he made decisions on first was in consultation with his wife. The mother was seen as the heart of the home just as equal in power and purpose as the head. Head and Heart is a team that can't be defeated unless the head does not fulfill his duties or the heart goes bad. Then you have a pile of **** where the children suffer.

Sure, it was a golden age of peace, love and prosperity. No-one sent their kids off to be distanced from familial love for months on end at boarding schools. There was no social stigma to divorce at all, and women's entirely equal education and career prospects further proves that they stuck together because they were happy marriages. Things like abuse and teen pregnancies were never hushed up or under-reported, they really were just a better type of humans back then.

Seriously, let's not romanticize the past. The 21st century has its own major societal challenges to deal with, some new and some just more visible now, but wistfully looking back and ignoring the progress we've made in many areas won't solve anything.