Then the federal government needs marriages and divorces every state recognizes just like with hetero marriage. After all some benefits are federal not just state
1.) yeah weirdos why do they think they can just move around the county as they see fit
2.) yep again they choose to have their rights violated
3.) wow, you nailed it, all they have to do is uproot their lives family and work/businesses they have had the last 5 years or so in texas, move back to mass, live there for a year THEN they can start the divorce procedure
4.) yep you got this all figured out, you nailed it.
1.)Thank you for numbering my points as it seems you can't keep track of them without that.
2.)You seem to argue just for the sake of arguing. You missed the point of what I was trying to say, which is OK.
3.)If you are a Smart person, which these two are not, you do not move to a state you know doesn't recognize your marriage if you intend on enforcing any provision of said marriage in that state.
4.)They did not have to chose to have their rights violated, as they don't have the right in the state of Texas.
5.) They uprooted their lives from Mass. to move to Texas so they can go back to Mass to get their divorce.
6.)Texas should not have to change its laws to accomadate two lazy people that don't want to follow the law.
7.)You can vry equal right all day long, and that won't change anything.
The fed has decided that some federal benefits should be paid to SS couples. AFAIK, the federal government has not recognized SS marriage. I'm not sure if the feds recognize SS divorce. Interesting point since presumably those SS benefits would go away in the event of a SS divorce.
Back to the OP, all this couple has to do as far as Texas is concerned is to go their own ways If they want a divorce in the traditional sense, shouldn't that happen where SS divorce is legal.
The Feds recognize the marriage. What about those issues like w SS benefits
The fed has decided that some federal benefits should be paid to SS couples. AFAIK, the federal government has not recognized SS marriage. I'm not sure if the feds recognize SS divorce. Interesting point since presumably those SS benefits would go away in the event of a SS divorce.
Back to the OP, all this couple has to do as far as Texas is concerned is to go their own ways If they want a divorce in the traditional sense, shouldn't that happen where SS divorce is legal.
Wouldn't that infringe on states rights
I challenge you to find a marriage licence of any sort with a Federal stamp/seal on it.
I challenge you to find a marriage licence of any sort with a Federal stamp/seal on it.
Funny you should mention that.
This whole issue is about state's rights.
I don't think since the fed has to recognize the marriage from MA. If Texas is not willing to grant a divorce that marriage still holds from MA
Funny you should mention that.
This whole issue is about state's rights.
It doesn't yet as far as federal benefits of marriage they are recognized. In hetero marriages and now gay marriages
That would be in error.
The couple, since DOMA Section 3 is not operative, can be married in MA, move to Texas and still file Federal Taxes as Civilly Married. Even though Texas doesn't recognize the Civil Marriage it is still valid in 13 States, DC, and considered valid by the Federal government.
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I don't think since the fed has to recognize the marriage from MA. If Texas is not willing to grant a divorce that marriage still holds from MA
Actually, that marriage still holds IN Ma. Texas sees it differently.
And that is half my point. The other half is the Feds still recognize the marriage as far as SS benefits the ten year thing and tax thing. If Texas does not grant a divorce these things are still going to be there
The feds have decided to pay benefits. Not recognize the marriage. The point of this thread is Texas is not willing to grant a divorce pertaining to a mariage that Texas law does not recognize.
Texas doesn't want to recognize their divorce because to do so would be a recognition of their SSM
So instead, they're forcing a same sex couple to stay married
WAY TO GO, TEXAS!! You're doing a fine job of eliminating SSM's :lamo
The feds have decided to pay benefits. Not recognize the marriage. The point of this thread is Texas is not willing to grant a divorce pertaining to a marriage that Texas law does not recognize.
All Legal Same-Sex Marriages Will Be Recognized for Federal Tax Purposes
8/29/2013
Ruling Provides Certainty, Benefits and Protections Under Federal Tax Law for Same-Sex Married Couples
The U.S. Department of the Treasury and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) today ruled that same-sex couples, legally married in jurisdictions that recognize their marriages, will be treated as married for federal tax purposes. The ruling applies regardless of whether the couple lives in a jurisdiction that recognizes same-sex marriage or a jurisdiction that does not recognize same-sex marriage.
Unbelievable lack of logic, Did this couple know when the moved to Texas what the same sex laws were (I'm gonna say yes, because this sounds like a set up)? So their decision to move to Texas and their decision to request divorce is because Texas discriminates? Texas is passive in this case, not discriminatory. The couple is not locked they will just have to go back to the state that sanctioned their marriage and request there. That state was active in this case.
that is recognizing the marriage.
it doesnt make it a national law yet but that is recognizing the marriage. If the marriage want recognized no benefits would be granted.
All Legal Same-Sex Marriages Will Be Recognized for Federal Tax Purposes
Unbelievable lack of logic, Did this couple know when the moved to Texas what the same sex laws were (I'm gonna say yes, because this sounds like a set up)? So their decision to move to Texas and their decision to request divorce is because Texas discriminates? Texas is passive in this case, not discriminatory. The couple is not locked they will just have to go back to the state that sanctioned their marriage and request there. That state was active in this case.
1.)Your posted article makes my point. "for federal tax purposes". Then you go further and state that this not a national law. At least we agree on those points.
2.)Fact is that this is not about benefits. It is about divorce. I doubt that the feds are all that interested in getting involved in marriage or divorce unless they can make it about discrimination.
3.) Marriage and divorce are states rights as of now.
Your posted article makes my point. "for federal tax purposes". Then you go further and state that this not a national law. At least we agree on those points.
Fact is that this is not about benefits. It is about divorce. I doubt that the feds are all that interested in getting involved in marriage or divorce unless they can make it about discrimination. Marriage and divorce are states rights as of now.
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