Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Showdow

[AGENT J]

Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Showdown - Business Insider

[h=1]Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Showdown
The court papers don’t tell us all that much about what happened between the couple described only as “J.B.” and “H.B.” We can assume there once was love and then, at some point, there wasn’t.[/h][h=1]Their parting, we’re told, was amicable.[/h]The problem is that J.B. and H.B. are both men. The other problem is that they live in Texas. The two were married in Massachusetts in 2006, where same-sex marriage has been legal since 2004. They later moved to Texas, and now want to get divorced. Texas, however, won’t let them. And they cannot get divorced in Massachusetts either, because that state—like all states—has a residency requirement for divorce.

Thus, unless they uproot their current lives in Texas and move to a state that will grant same-sex divorces, J.B. and H.B. are locked into their marriage. They are in perfect legal limbo. And they are in it together until death—or the state of Texas—do them part. Being trapped in a marriage one wishes to leave is a situation one court (referring to an opposite-sex marriage) once described as “cruel and unusual punishment”—placing the spouses “in a prison from which there was no parole.”

back up links:
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...as_refusal_to_grant_divorces_to_same_sex.html
http://www.policymic.com/articles/63533/inside-the-next-big-battle-for-gay-rights


and BOOM!
there you have it.
Stuff like this is the beginning to the end of discrimination and denying equal rights.

Me and many others called it when DOMA fell and then again when IRS granted equal rights no matter the state couples reside.

National equal rights for gays is coming and many cases (hopefully just a few SSCs and one SCOTUS) like these are going to make it happen. These types or gross discrimination and equality violations along with state bannings are going to HELP establish equal rights for gays.

In my opinion there's nothing right about what Texas is doing to these people and legally other similar cases have ruled its wrong also.

Like i was saying, when DOMA fell me and others said thats the first step because cases like these and 1000s of others are going to establish equal rights.

If a gay married couple lives in taxes and one of them is in the hospital does the other not get spousal visitation rights or spousal say in healthcare?
Can one of them cheat and its ok?
What if one dies, does texas take the stuff in the dead spouses name?
Can one spouse be FORCED to testify against the other since texas doesnt see their marriage?
etc etc etc etc and a 100 more examples that involve state, and local policies.

There will be cases like these springing up more and more and they will have to be dealt with. Its great because its going to be poetic justice, all these discrimination and laws banning equal rights for gays are going to be the kindling for the fire to burn the whole bigoted and or discrimination wall down.

Equal rights is going to get the last laugh!

Bigotry and discrimination are already against the ropes, their wobbled, their stunned!

Soon they will catch a left jab of equal rights and a right hook of justice, knocking their teeth out and sending them to the canvas down for the count!!!!
:2usflag::cheers::2dancing:

 

[sbrettt]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Showdown - Business Insider

back up links:
Texas and gay marriage: Will Texas’ refusal to grant divorces to same-sex couples be the next front in the marriage-equality wars? - Slate Magazine
Inside The Next Big Battle For Gay Rights


and BOOM!
there you have it.
Stuff like this is the beginning to the end of discrimination and denying equal rights.

Me and many others called it when DOMA fell and then again when IRS granted equal rights no matter the state couples reside.

National equal rights for gays is coming and many cases (hopefully just a few SSCs and one SCOTUS) like these are going to make it happen. These types or gross discrimination and equality violations along with state bannings are going to HELP establish equal rights for gays.

In my opinion there's nothing right about what Texas is doing to these people and legally other similar cases have ruled its wrong also.

Like i was saying, when DOMA fell me and others said thats the first step because cases like these and 1000s of others are going to establish equal rights.

If a gay married couple lives in taxes and one of them is in the hospital does the other not get spousal visitation rights or spousal say in healthcare?
Can one of them cheat and its ok?
What if one dies, does texas take the stuff in the dead spouses name?
Can one spouse be FORCED to testify against the other since texas doesnt see their marriage?
etc etc etc etc and a 100 more examples that involve state, and local policies.

There will be cases like these springing up more and more and they will have to be dealt with. Its great because its going to be poetic justice, all these discrimination and laws banning equal rights for gays are going to be the kindling for the fire to burn the whole bigoted and or discrimination wall down.

Equal rights is going to get the last laugh!

Bigotry and discrimination are already against the ropes, their wobbled, their stunned!

Soon they will catch a left jab of equal rights and a right hook of justice, knocking their teeth out and sending them to the canvas down for the count!!!!
:2usflag::cheers::2dancing:

I think this is one of what what will be many whimpers coming out of the traditional marriage crowd as their movement dies.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

I think this is one of what what will be many whimpers coming out of the traditional marriage crowd as their movement dies.

im sure there will be lots of crying by the extremists but its pointless the writing is on the wall and equal rights is going to win.

as far as their movement, it will probably never die and im fine with that, this has nothing to do with peoples feeling anyway, its about equal rights and fighting against that will be a lost cause.

I say that because racist, bigoted, and misogynistic movements still exists today sadly.

 

[sbrettt]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

im sure there will be lots of crying by the extremists but its pointless the writing is on the wall and equal rights is going to win.

as far as their movement, it will probably never die and im fine with that, this has nothing to do with peoples feeling anyway, its about equal rights and fighting against that will be a lost cause.

I say that because racist, bigoted, and misogynistic movements still exists today sadly.

That's true, but I think their movement will definitely be out of the mainstream, and no longer accepted as legitimate in just a few years.

 

[Carjosse]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Texas loves gay marriage so much that they do want gay couples to separate.

 

[WCH]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Their conundrum, is a legal one, on two fronts.

This smells agenda driven.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

That's true, but I think their movement will definitely be out of the mainstream, and no longer accepted as legitimate in just a few years.

hmm i dont think its ever been accepted as "legitimate" for quite some times, people accepted that the powers to be werent ready to give in and the road to equality didnt have a foundation yet.

I know right now to anybody honest, educated and objective the "traditional" argument completely fails because its made up.

 

[sangha]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Texas doesn't want to recognize their divorce because to do so would be a recognition of their SSM

So instead, they're forcing a same sex couple to stay married

WAY TO GO, TEXAS!! You're doing a fine job of eliminating SSM's :lamo

 

[AliHajiSheik]

Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional...

Maybe they should sue Massachusetts instead of complaining to the state that doesn't recognize their marriage.

 

[Thrilla]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Texas doesn't want to recognize their divorce because to do so would be a recognition of their SSM

So instead, they're forcing a same sex couple to stay married

WAY TO GO, TEXAS!! You're doing a fine job of eliminating SSM's :lamo

that's not really accurate.. as Texas law doesn't consider them to be married in the first place.

 

[WCH]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Texas doesn't want to recognize their divorce because to do so would be a recognition of their SSM

So instead, they're forcing a same sex couple to stay married

WAY TO GO, TEXAS!! You're doing a fine job of eliminating SSM's :lamo

If you think about it (which they obviously did not) why would you move to a state where not only is SSM not legal but, also SS divorce?

Again, I smell a rat here.

 

[sbrettt]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

hmm i dont think its ever been accepted as "legitimate" for quite some times, people accepted that the powers to be werent ready to give in and the road to equality didnt have a foundation yet.

I know right now to anybody honest, educated and objective the "traditional" argument completely fails because its made up.

By accepted as legitimate, I meant a majority of people used to favor excluding same sex couples, and the media used to be a lot nicer to those people.

 

[sbrettt]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

If you think about it (which they obviously did not) why would you move to a state where not only is SSM not legal but, also SS divorce?

Again, I smell a rat here.

Maybe they moved there to pursue happiness. Maybe they moved there because of work, or maybe they just like the weather.

 

[digsbe]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

They should be treated as divorced anyway, homosexual unions are not a legal marriage in TX, how can they divorce that which does not exist? Good for them for sticking to their laws and principals.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Texas doesn't want to recognize their divorce because to do so would be a recognition of their SSM

So instead, they're forcing a same sex couple to stay married

WAY TO GO, TEXAS!! You're doing a fine job of eliminating SSM's :lamo

yeah its pretty funny
bu not divorcing them there will be in fact one more SSM couple in the US.

This is exactly why states should have no say in such matters and soon they wont, at least not to this extent. Just move proof leaving this a state issue is wrong and a complete failure.

 

[sangha]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Maybe they moved there to pursue happiness. Maybe they moved there because of work, or maybe they just like the weather.

Or maybe they moved there with the intention of divorcing in order to overturn TX law

Makes no difference to me. Either way, I'm fine with it.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Maybe they moved there to pursue happiness. Maybe they moved there because of work, or maybe they just like the weather.

gotcha

 

[WCH]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Maybe they moved there to pursue happiness. Maybe they moved there because of work, or maybe they just like the weather.

They didn't move here so they could get a divorce.

Why put yourselves in this predicament unless you have ulterior motives or zero forethought.

 

[WCH]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Or maybe they moved there with the intention of divorcing in order to overturn TX law

Makes no difference to me. Either way, I'm fine with it.

Thank you for making my point. It's agenda driven.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Maybe they moved there to pursue happiness. Maybe they moved there because of work, or maybe they just like the weather.

yep or a million other legit logical reasons to people may decided to move within the united states of america. Anybody acting like they should be banned from the state is asinine.

or maybe they did go there to push the issue (which is much less likely) but even if they did, fighting for equal rights is also a great reason, just like women and minorities etc did before them.

 

[sangha]

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Thank you for making my point. It's agenda driven.

Nothing wrong with agendas or perfectly legal behavior

Thanks for making my point - the right wingers want to criminalize behavior that is legal and moral

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

Thank you for making my point. It's agenda driven.

2.) you have zero facts to support that?
2.) whats the agenda you are guessing about?

 

[WCH]

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Nothing wrong with agendas or perfectly legal behavior

Why should we Texans have to be subjected to such? We LEGALLY voted against SSM and therefore SSD.

And no I'm not sure it's legal for them to move here under that premise. It's on the same level as moving from a state where marijuana is legal to one where it's not and expecting there to be changes made in the law to conform to your habit.

It's not going to happen.

 

[WCH]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

2.) you have zero facts to support that?
2.) whats the agenda you are guessing about?

He just confirmed what I suspected.

*I have 'zero' facts to support that yet you don't know what agenda I'm talking about? Get real.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Texas' Refusal To Allow Gay Couples To Divorce May Be The Next Constitutional Sho

He just confirmed what I suspected.

thats what i thought you got nothing as usual, i love it