Texas loosens gun laws, bans 'red flag' orders

[rahl]

Of course that's not true.

Well, it’s empirically true lol. Since we began tracking this data, which was 1986, guns increased by over 270 million while the homicide rate fell 40%. Violent crime rate fell over 30%.

There is no correlation between firearms and homicide, suicide or violent crime rates.

 

[rahl]

True! Also, the earth is flat; the tooth fairy is real; and only virgins can ride unicorns.

If you are ignorant of a topic, in this case guns, crime rates etc, then you should refrain from posting

 

[braindrain]

The scores of dead school children in this country apparently died of a hoax then. Spare me the gun fetishism.

Yeah must be why places like South Korea and japan have a higher suicide rate than us. It is because they have all the guns.

Or why despite the fact that there have been hundreds of millions more guns sold in America in the last few decades the homicide rate has gone down.

I am sorry but actual facts prove your claims to be the idiotic bs we all know they are.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Yeah must be why places like South Korea and japan have a higher suicide rate than us.

What's their murder rate via gunshot?

 

[Loulit01]

Yeah must be why places like South Korea and japan have a higher suicide rate than us. It is because they have all the guns.

Or why despite the fact that there have been hundreds of millions more guns sold in America in the last few decades the homicide rate has gone down.

I am sorry but actual facts prove your claims to be the idiotic bs we all know they are.

What's life like in fantasy land?

Japan has almost completely eliminated gun deaths — here's how

A recent spate of mass shootings has prompted renewed calls for gun control in the US. Japan may offer some insight into preventing future attacks.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[braindrain]

What's their murder rate via gunshot?

Maybe go back and reread the post I was responding to and stop trying to move the goal posts.

But if you want to play this game, if your claims were true then a state with a much higher percentage of gun ownership like say Idaho would have a higher homicide rate then a state like New York.
How about you look up those numbers and let me know what you find out.

Or look up the suicide rates in South Korea and compare that to the US and then just for fun see what the gun ownership level is in SK.


But I know facts are not friendly to the far left so I expect a lot of excuses and a couple strawman. I am sure you won’t disappoint.

 

[Loulit01]

Maybe go back and reread the post I was responding to and stop trying to move the goal posts.

But if you want to play this game, if your claims were true then a state with a much higher percentage of gun ownership like say Idaho would have a higher homicide rate then a state like New York.
How about you look up those numbers and let me know what you find out.

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

www.cdc.gov

Murders involving firearms by state U.S. 2023| Statista

In 2023, about 1,459 homicides were committed with the use of firearms in Texas.

www.statista.com

Gun Deaths per Capita by State 2023 - Wisevoter

Gun deaths and gun death rates vary significantly across different states in the United States. According to the data provided, Mississippi has the highest gun deaths per capita, with 28.6 gun deaths per 100,000 population, resulting in a total of 818 gun deaths. Louisiana follows closely behind...

wisevoter.com

What did you think was going to happen?

 

[braindrain]

What's their murder rate via gunshot?

So you think you are less dead if you are shot to death vs stabbed to death.

But it rather telling that you are already desperatly trying to carry those goalposts off the field. It tells everyone else reading this just hope dishonest your posts are. And how pathetic your arguments are as well.

 

[The Brad Dad]

Maybe go back and reread the post I was responding to and stop trying to move the goal posts.

But if you want to play this game, if your claims were true then a state with a much higher percentage of gun ownership like say Idaho would have a higher homicide rate then a state like New York.
How about you look up those numbers and let me know what you find out.

Tell me what SK's murder rate is via guns. You brought up their high suicide rate to prove guns don't have an effect, so what's their murder rate via guns vs ours? This is your comp. I already know the answer, and my guess is you do too which is why you're running harder than JD Vance at a lazy boy clearance sale.

Idaho has a population of 2m, NY has a pop of 9m. Idaho has a significantly lower crime rate than, say, TEXAS, as well. In fact, in general red states have higher rates of violent crime than blue states. Why do you think red states in general are more dangerous than blue states? Why is violent crime so out of control in your states?

 

[braindrain]

What's life like in fantasy land?

Japan has almost completely eliminated gun deaths — here's how

A recent spate of mass shootings has prompted renewed calls for gun control in the US. Japan may offer some insight into preventing future attacks.

www.businessinsider.com

Talking about fairly land while you pretend that the only part of an argument that counts are the ones you cherry pick is pretty hilarious.

look I get you are desperate to not talk about their suicide rate, despite that being one of the original claims, because it runs your argument but I doubt too many people can’t see through your BS.

 

[braindrain]

Not a problem. I knew you would be back.

More whining about people trying to have the last word while you can’t stop responding to them.

That you don’t see just how ridiculous you look is hilarious.

 

[RF667799]

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

www.cdc.gov

Murders involving firearms by state U.S. 2023| Statista

In 2023, about 1,459 homicides were committed with the use of firearms in Texas.

www.statista.com

Gun Deaths per Capita by State 2023 - Wisevoter

Gun deaths and gun death rates vary significantly across different states in the United States. According to the data provided, Mississippi has the highest gun deaths per capita, with 28.6 gun deaths per 100,000 population, resulting in a total of 818 gun deaths. Louisiana follows closely behind...

wisevoter.com

What did you think was going to happen?

Now do rope deaths since you think murder, suicide, and accidents are all the same thing.

However, from one of your sources we see that New York has over 10 times the murders committed using firearms than does Idaho.

 

[braindrain]

Tell me what SK's murder rate is via guns. You brought up their high suicide rate to prove guns don't have an effect, so what's their murder rate via guns vs ours? This is your comp. I already know the answer, and my guess is you do too which is why you're running harder than JD Vance at a lazy boy clearance sale.

Idaho has a population of 2m, NY has a pop of 9m. Idaho has a significantly lower crime rate than, say, TEXAS, as well. In fact, in general red states have higher rates of violent crime than blue states. Why do you think red states in general are more dangerous than blue states? Why is violent crime so out of control in your states?

You really seem to be waffling on your claims here. You claimed that it is a lie that guns have no relevance on homicide, suicide or violent crime.
South Korea has a significantly higher suicide rate than us. And yet almost no firearms.
Prove how you claim us correct.

Idaho has vastly more firearms then New York but significantly lower homicide rate.
Prove how you claim is bot incorrect.

Look I get that you are desperate to cherry pick what information counts and what doesn’t but you are doing nothing but embarrassing yourself.

Tell me where is all the crime coming from in those red states. Last I checked it was from the blue cities with in the states.
Stop having the deep blue areas drive up the crime rates and things would look quite a bit different.

 

[braindrain]

Stats of the States - Firearm Mortality

www.cdc.gov

Murders involving firearms by state U.S. 2023| Statista

In 2023, about 1,459 homicides were committed with the use of firearms in Texas.

www.statista.com

Gun Deaths per Capita by State 2023 - Wisevoter

Gun deaths and gun death rates vary significantly across different states in the United States. According to the data provided, Mississippi has the highest gun deaths per capita, with 28.6 gun deaths per 100,000 population, resulting in a total of 818 gun deaths. Louisiana follows closely behind...

wisevoter.com

What did you think was going to happen?

So you are one of those people who think you are extra special dead if you are murdered by a gun vs only regular dead if you are murdered any other way.

Tell me where do you think you are safer from homicide. Idaho with a very high gun ownership rate. Or new your with a very low gun ownership rate
Let’s see if you can answer this question honestly.

My money is either deflection or you run away. But let’s see.

 

[Hari Seldon]

More whining about people trying to have the last word while you can’t stop responding to them.

That you don’t see just how ridiculous you look is hilarious.

I'm just having fun. You seem to have the problem. I could care less how I look to you.

 

[braindrain]

Now do rope deaths since you think murder, suicide, and accidents are all the same thing.

However, from one of your sources we see that New York has over 10 times the murders committed using firearms than does Idaho.

Wait do you not realize that you are super dead if you murdered by a gun and only regular dead if you are stabbed to death.
Obviously super dead is much worse then regular dead.

 

[braindrain]

I'm just having fun. You seem to have the problem. I could care less how I look to you.

It’s hilarious that you think you will fool anyone with that weak ass excuse.

Your pathetic little bit was as obvious as it was stupid. But hey it was coming from you so I doubt anyone was surprised

 

[RF667799]

I think letting people have weapons to kill people when they have demonstrated extreme mental deficiency or anger management to be an obscenity.

You mean like that guy in Wisconsin they let have a Ford Explorer and the guy in New Orleans they let have an electric F-150?

I think they should have had to pass a Criminal Background Check to have possession of those.

I sure as hell don't need your permission or approval to post. That's the admins job or are you applying foe the position. Your opinion on what is insubstantial is also just your opinion.
Nighty night.

 

[Bodecea]

Texas loosens gun laws, bans 'red flag' orders

Gov. Greg Abbott signed several bills over the weekend making it easier to own certain firearms and restricting gun control measures.

www.fox7austin.com

And sawed off shotguns are now legal in Texas. I guess they were too long for... hiding under trench coats? I dunno.

Texas is certainly trying hard to drive away anyone who thought of visiting.

 

[Bodecea]

Yep no authoritarians here this isn't the state for you.

How Ironic....

 

[Bodecea]

Yep stay out.

A win/win.

 

[Bodecea]

I've heard they want to eat puppies alive and sacrificed children to Moloch.

Having been stationed in texas....this actually would not surprise me if con-servatives advocated it for BS religious reasons.

 

[rahl]

What's life like in fantasy land?

Japan has almost completely eliminated gun deaths — here's how

A recent spate of mass shootings has prompted renewed calls for gun control in the US. Japan may offer some insight into preventing future attacks.

www.businessinsider.com

They have a higher suicide rate. Guns are irrelevant to homicide, suicide and violent crime rates.

 

[Bodecea]

No, I was too busy mocking the idea that anyone would want to come to Illinois.

All in all, it's still better than Texas.

 

[Bodecea]

What if he stabs his wife? Is that a reason to take his gun away? What if he doesn't even have a gun?

What if you stepped back and considered these scenarios you think might make some sort of point?

Domestic violence is cool?