I noticed about your citation, suicides by gun are considered mass shootings?
After all, the citation I posted was specific to mass shootings, your citation wanders all over the place, like the movies, for some strange reason.
I read extensively about that conflict. do you disbelieve what I said or do you not like my point and hope to try to challenge it with such a question?
That's a new one. What do you think would happen if every inmate had a gun?
You have any source for your claims of Finnish civilian gun ownership and the make up of the 450,000 Soviets that invaded Finland in the Winter War?
2/3ds of those are suicides.
...there's no way to stop suicide by gun without completely repealing the 2A because at its most basic, an adult citizen has the right to own a gun.
Repeal AND house to house confiscation.
2/3ds of those are suicides.
...there's no way to stop suicide by gun without completely repealing the 2A because at its most basic, an adult citizen has the right to own a gun.
Repeal AND house to house confiscation.
It must be the sushi!!!!
It works very well in the US. Lowest crime and murder rates in the western world by far
I would be very interested to read the comments here if the man in El Paso that murdered 20 men, women and children in Walmart, or the man in Dayton, Ohio that gunned down 9 people, or the guy from Odessa yesterday that randomly shot and killed 7 people and injured 22 others including a 17 month old little girl that had half her face shot off, looked like one of these men. What would gun clutchers say then? I know for sure that the conversation would be very different.
Funny how the point of view can change depending on what influences their beliefs.
Then it should be a simple task for you to provide a source. Unsubstantiated statements are only opinion.
You can google it yourself. You don't have an honest belief what I said was untruthful. You are merely being dilatory
Gun policy nor ownership has little to do with it. We've discussed this before.
A guy in Norway killed 90+ people with a single rifle.
Any other western country I can think of allows adult citizens to own a rifle. So what is stopping all those adult citizens from carrying out mass shootings (4 or more deaths)? That doesnt even take an unusual amount of ammo.
They have the necessary guns. Why dont they have the same number of mass shootings as the US? We can see it's not about how many guns individuals own.
Obviously, it's not because of the number of guns...the Europeans and other western nationals are armed and capable enough to have mass shootings every day. But they dont. WHY?
Because it's not about guns...it's about the desire to kill. That is what we need to examine and address here in America. Not the # of guns in law-abiding citizens' hands but how we are producing so many POS loser males that have this desire. Apparently, the other western nations are producing far fewer.
Or do you foresee the US courts repealing the 2A? Because reduced to its absolute minimum, it still means American adults could own a rifle.
Yes, and if you leave out suicides, the numbers aren't so impressive, except in one respect:
From 1999 to 2015, there was an 8.4% increase in the per capita gun homicide rate (even while there was a 5.6% decrease in the overall homicide rate).
From 2015 to 2017, there was an 11.1% increase in the per capita gun homicide rate (while at the same time there was about a 9% increase in the overall homicide rate).
So, yes, quite impressively, the 2 year increase from 2015 (Ferguson) to 2017 was greater than the 16-year increase from 1999 to 2015 (during which the the overall homicide rate fell)
2/3ds of those are suicides.
Do those homicides include suicides?
The number of criminals would drop rapidly.
And you think that helps you...why?
Gun policy nor ownership has little to do with it. We've discussed this before.
A guy in Norway killed 90+ people with a single rifle.
Any other western country I can think of allows adult citizens to own a rifle. So what is stopping all those adult citizens from carrying out mass shootings (4 or more deaths)? That doesnt even take an unusual amount of ammo.
They have the necessary guns. Why dont they have the same number of mass shootings as the US? We can see it's not about how many guns individuals own.
Obviously, it's not because of the number of guns...the Europeans and other western nationals are armed and capable enough to have mass shootings every day. But they dont. WHY?
Because it's not about guns...it's about the desire to kill. That is what we need to examine and address here in America. Not the # of guns in law-abiding citizens' hands but how we are producing so many POS loser males that have this desire. Apparently, the other western nations are producing far fewer.
Or do you foresee the US courts repealing the 2A? Because reduced to its absolute minimum, it still means American adults could own a rifle.
Gun ownership in Norway is four times less than that of the United States (per capita of course). The United States has 4.43 firearm-related homicides per 100,000 people, whereas Norway has .13 firearm-related homicides per 100,000 people.
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Not sure why you felt that Norway was an example that would help you.
There have been some mass shootings in Europe.[19] Recent examples including the 1987 Hungerford massacre, the 1996 Dunblane massacre and the 2010 Cumbria shootings in the United Kingdom, the 1990 Puerto Hurraco massacre in Spain, the 2001 Zug massacre in Switzerland, the 2002 Erfurt school massacre, the 2009 Winnenden school shooting, the 2011 Frankfurt Airport shooting and the 2016 Munich shooting in Germany, the 2007 Jokela school shooting and the 2008 Kauhajoki school shooting in Finland, the 2010 Bratislava shooting in Slovakia, the 2012 Toulouse and Montauban shootings the January 2015 Charlie Hebdo shooting (and related attacks) and the November 2015 Paris attacks in France and the 2018 Macerata attack in Italy. The deadliest mass shooting of all time (to have been perpetrated by a single person) occurred in Europe with the 2011 Norway attacks in Norway, in which 69 people were shot and killed (in addition to 8 others by a bomb).[19]
Mass shooting - Wikipedia
Please tell me you're kidding.
So you wont address the actual content of the post? Here are more examples:
Now will you please address the direct questions in my post?
And you think that helps you...why?
I wasn’t expecting much more. Make a statement and when asked for a source, tell me to Google it myself, brilliant!
Those are anecdotal. The reason why anecdotes are bad debate sources is because they don't present the whole picture. And the whole picture is that our firearm related deaths are greater than that of every developed country in the world, and we have the greatest private gun ownership...period.
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