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Texas Inmates Likely to Be Exonerated After Committee Discovers Wrongful Convictions

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So do you wish to over throw our justice system and the way we do things?

If someone is stupid enough to confess to killing someone in cold blood? Well yeah put em down.

Why do we have a right? Well it goes back to a jury of your peers and what they think. Criminals know it and so do you.

Get some dressings to put over your bleeding heart and get real.
 
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ric27 said:
Seriously, read Romans 13:1-7
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Read Ezekiel 18:23
MrVicchio said:
They volunteer to die by their actions. Why do you act like they are victims of the State?
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Wait, they think "I chose to die because I want to burn the Koran"? Or "I chose to die because I feel like committing adultery"? They are victims of society who do not value life and would rather deem certain people unworthy of living because of past actions. I agree that we should punish criminals, and sick minded ilk that commit atrocious crimes deserve harsh punishments, but what is the benefit of death? Why not hard labor? Why not a life of imprisonment?

Kali said:
So do you wish to over throw our justice system and the way we do things?
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I wish to reform our justice system to protect the sanctity of life and also to bring about justice.
If someone is stupid enough to confess to killing someone in cold blood? Well yeah put em down.
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So they condemn themselves to die by doing the "right" thing and admit to a crime? Why should anyone confess or feel remorse for actions if they are going to be put to death anyway?
Why do we have a right? Well it goes back to a jury of your peers and what they think. Criminals know it and so do you.
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I do know that, and that is why I addressed why I believe it's wrong for our peers to put a value on life. Again, would it be okay to put a child to death for stealing bread if a jury believes that it is an appropriate punishment?
Get some dressings to put over your bleeding heart and get real.
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I will not respond to this.
 
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digsbe said:
Read Ezekiel 18:23
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You apparently do not understand the conceptual difference between innocent and not-innocent/criminal punishment. The definitive scriptures (Romans) from the New Testament covers the issue. That covers "who gets to decide". When imposed as a punishment by law by the legal government.
 
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Read Ephesian 6:2. The Bible does not state that government is the highest power and is infallible. It tells us to respect the laws, but that they aren't always the moral decision and at times we must fight against them. So, do you interpret that passage to mean that the government could decide to kill all Christians and God gives his stamp of approval on it because He gives them the right to decide right and wrong?
 
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Two black men convicted wrongly in Texas.. who would have thought that could happen...

As for only getting 2 million.. gezz.. it should be 10s of millions at least.
 
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PeteEU said:
Two black men convicted wrongly in Texas.. who would have thought that could happen...

As for only getting 2 million.. gezz.. it should be 10s of millions at least.
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I would take it before a jury and make the corrupt state of Texas pay out their redneck asses for what occurred.
 
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Vader said:
THe republicanazi douchebags that put him there need to pay out 500 times that amount.
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What do republicans and Nazi's have to do with this? Please grow up.
 
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Vader said:
I would take it before a jury and make the corrupt state of Texas pay out their redneck asses for what occurred.
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How is Texas any more corrupt than any other state? What gives you the right to call them all rednecks? Seriously, your stereotypes are irritating and immature.
 
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At least the "republicanazis" in Texas voted and passed a law that compensates the wrongfully convicted and Punished. Maybe the dems in Oregon and Washington should consider passing a bill like Texas has :ssst:
 
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texmaster said:
Groan. Can you even show where its been proven a single man was killed by the state in the last 30 years who was proven innocent?

I prefer people who have true moral issues with the dealth penalty other than asking for a perfect system
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There are several who would have been, were it not for the delays introduced by the lengthy appeals process so often decried by fans of capital punishment.
 
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Rightwingnutjob said:
There are times when you can be sure of the crimes a person committed. At these times the death penalty should be on the table. Further, rapists and murderers should suffer in some way.
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Just an unfortunate incident that if after 27 years the man the State of Texas has executed was then found to be innocent.
Yes I do know that I have taken Michael Anthony Green's case out of context, but had he actually been executed and 27 years later was subsequently found to be innocent, no amount of compensation would repair that damage.
I would also state that IMHO you cannot compensate for taking a mans life for 27 years and think that throwing money at him will adequately compensate him for not only his suffering but also his Family.
It would be so better if those that wrongfully prosecuted him were to suffer a penalty, perhaps in that way, greater dilligence would be paid to assembling and proving evidence, rather than reliance (in Court) on the rhetoric of a silver tongued prosecutor.
We in the US are learning what the results of having a silver tongued orator will have on all our lives.
 
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Read my first sentence over again. I don't condone the death penalty unless there is 0 doubt. If a guy confesses, then give him the death penalty if there is also some sort of proof to back it up. He shouldn't be confessing if it isn't true. Like I said, certain cases you CAN be SURE, in these cases the death penalty should be on the table.
 
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Unfortunately, there's no "zero doubt" situations in any human enterprise.

That's why I oppose the death penalty.
 
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TacticalEvilDan said:
Unfortunately, there's no "zero doubt" situations in any human enterprise.

That's why I oppose the death penalty.
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2+2=4 and I have "0 doubt" about that. I have no qualms about sentencing someone with the death penalty in a case where they confess.
 
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Rightwingnutjob said:
2+2=4 and I have "0 doubt" about that. I have no qualms about sentencing someone with the death penalty in a case where they confess.
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Maybe they're confessing to protect someone else. Maybe they've been pressured into confessing.

A confession is a long, long way from absolute certainty.
 
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Okay,

Look. Mistakes happen. Law Enforcement has changed over the last 20 years. The standard of proof has gotten higher, the scientific requirements have gotten higher, the way Police Operate has greately improved. Lowering the chance for a false conviction. This I think we shall all aggree is a good thing yes?

To those blathering on with bigoted hate and idiocy towards Texas because of this incident... you don't know, and I don't know all the circumstances as to why these two were arrested to behin with. Was it bigotry? Were they just in the wrong place, wrong time? What other circumstances are you NOT hearing in this liberal wet dream of a perfect story showing the "EEVVIILLSS" of a southern state?

There is always the "rest of the story". I'm sad they spent so much time behind bars, I'm GLAD they hav ebeen set free, and I understand that we have to try out best, and we have to accept that sometimes he system fails. It WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE RISK OF FAILING.
 
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TacticalEvilDan said:
Maybe they're confessing to protect someone else. Maybe they've been pressured into confessing.

A confession is a long, long way from absolute certainty.
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They shouldn't be confessing then.
 
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Then lets ban all laws because no system is perfect. that is what you are saying.
 
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Your Star said:
Can you show where anyone has even tried to figure that out?
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You aren't making sense. Please read my post again.
 
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TacticalEvilDan said:
There are several who would have been, were it not for the delays introduced by the lengthy appeals process so often decried by fans of capital punishment.
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I'm not willing to throw out the death penalty because we don't have a flawless system.
 
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Yep.


Yep.

MrVicchio said:
I'm sad they spent so much time behind bars, I'm GLAD they hav ebeen set free, and I understand that we have to try out best, and we have to accept that sometimes he system fails. It WILL ALWAYS HAVE THE RISK OF FAILING.
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Yep.

That's exactly why I'll never support capital punishment.

Somebody must've taken the square root of -1, we agree!
 
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texmaster said:
I'm not willing to throw out the death penalty because we don't have a flawless system.
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I'm not willing to throw out the justice system because it isn't flawless, but it seems to me that until our batting record is 1000 we shouldn't be killing anybody in the name of justice.

Not one single innocent death at the hands of the state is acceptable. Period.
 
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Totally disagree. What you are demanding is impossible and I won't allow hundreds of purely evil men and women to remain living when their crimes under the law warrent death because we don't have a pefect system.
 
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texmaster said:
Totally disagree. What you are demanding is impossible and I won't allow hundreds of purely evil men and women to remain living when their crimes under the law warrent death because we don't have a pefect system.
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Well, I sure am glad you can't allow or disallow. :lol:

Seriously though, why on earth would we want to employ a punishment that we can't in any way take back or undo when our record is less than sterling?
 
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