Texas Gov Announces Investigation Into Case Of Mother Transitioning 7-Year-Old James Younger Against (1 Viewer)

[nota bene]

With over 70% of kids who express being transgendered simply losing those feelings, you are more likely to be wrong.

What is bizarre to me is taking transgender as the default.

 

[dixon01767]

What is bizarre to me is taking transgender as the default.

Worse yet they are taking gender dysphoria as the default. Seems they are operating under the pre 2013 DSM that viewed anyone who was transgendered as being diagnosed as having a mental disorder, gender dysphoria. Nothing Ive read shows that this kid is suffering from distress and everything indicates he is a happy normal kid with a mother who has been telling him he is a girl since he was 3 yrs old.

 

[nota bene]

Worse yet they are taking gender dysphoria as the default. Seems they are operating under the pre 2013 DSM that viewed anyone who was transgendered as being diagnosed as having a mental disorder, gender dysphoria. Nothing Ive read shows that this kid is suffering from distress and everything indicates he is a happy normal kid with a mother who has been telling him he is a girl since he was 3 yrs old.

I don't know which parent is "right," but taking gender dysphoria as the default is bizarre.

 

[Lisa]

The statistics on suicide for the transgendered.

We have discussed this before so don't try to be obtuse.

That suicide rate is because they aren't getting the transitional and post-surgical care that they need at the proper time, plus the discrimination that transgendered people face in public and the workforce.

 

[Lisa]

^^^^^


Folks pay attention to the guy above, if you don’t stop liberal insanity NOW then it definitely will be medical transitions of infants in ten years.

Where do you get this claim?

 

[Lisa]

:roll:

Don't roll your eyes at me. I will bump every one of your 100 false anology threads.

 

[Lisa]

Re: There's no mutilation in sight

Silly, I quoted what the article said.

Your sources are extremely biased and 20 years out of date.

 

[ludin]

I don't know which parent is "right," but taking gender dysphoria as the default is bizarre.

one of my boys growing up kept calling me mommy. he did it for years even though i said i am dad.
kids are just weird like that sometimes.

 

[dixon01767]

I don't know which parent is "right," but taking gender dysphoria as the default is bizarre.

Especially with the video of the 3 yr old boy saying his mother told him he was a girl. Especially with the mothers expert witnesses report to the court that no medical transition was planned, but when asked about the entry in the medical records recommending referral to medical transition clinic when he was 8 or 9 yrs old, he admitted to seeing them but didn't believe they were relevant to his report that no medical transition was planned by the mother or Drs. I suspect this Rainbow Counseling place is quite skilled at guiding parents with gender confused kids into sex reassignment. And Genecis clinic is eager to sign them up for I suspect 50-$100 k program of transition. They treated 24 patients in 2015. They are currently treating 400.

 

[dixon01767]

We have discussed this before so don't try to be obtuse.

That suicide rate is because they aren't getting the transitional and post-surgical care that they need at the proper time, plus the discrimination that transgendered people face in public and the workforce.

Or the more obvious reason, sex reassignment IS NOT an effective treatment for gender dysphoria.

 

[dixon01767]

Re: There's no mutilation in sight

Your sources are extremely biased and 20 years out of date.

Daniel Friend | October 18, 2019
Hearing in Custody Battle Over Alleged Transgender Seven-Year-Old Will Resume Next Week | The Texan

Oct 18th isn't yet out of date and I don't know anything about Daniel Friend. Evidently you do. Something you want to share with us or you just spewing BS again?

 

[Visbek]

Especially with the video of the 3 yr old boy saying his mother told him he was a girl.

So the mother can persuade the kid to say what she wants to hear, but the father is incapable of doing the same? And not a single therapist on either side detected the mother's actions? Fascinating

Especially with the mothers expert witnesses report to the court that no medical transition was planned, but when asked about the entry in the medical records recommending referral to medical transition clinic when he was 8 or 9 yrs old, he admitted to seeing them but didn't believe they were relevant...

That's probably because they don't do medical transitions on anyone that young. The earliest they do medical treatment is puberty blockers at 11 1/2.

I suspect this Rainbow Counseling place is quite skilled at guiding parents with gender confused kids into sex reassignment.

So you know nothing about it, but you are certain that they routinely engage in medical malpractice?

And Genecis clinic is eager to sign them up for I suspect 50-$100 k program of transition. They treated 24 patients in 2015. They are currently treating 400.

:roll:

Genecis opened in 2015, so it is no surprise that the numbers were small in its first years. It's also one of the few programs like it in its area. Not to mention that social acceptance of transgender youth is just starting to increase.

They also don't do surgical reassignment at all there. They also follow guidelines established by entities like the American Academy of Pediatrics.

Why not suggest that pediatric oncology departments are faking cancer results, to wring tens of thousands of dollars out of unsuspecting parents? Thanks, but no thanks, for the transphobia.

 

[dixon01767]

Why not suggest that pediatric oncology departments are faking cancer results, to wring tens of thousands of dollars out of unsuspecting parents? Thanks, but no thanks, for the transphobia.

The effectiveness of the treatments in the oncology department can be shown. They have NOTHING regarding the effectiveness of sex reassignment over in the psych department. Absurd to believe a mental disorder requires cosmetic surgery.

 

[Lisa]

Re: There's no mutilation in sight

Daniel Friend | October 18, 2019
Hearing in Custody Battle Over Alleged Transgender Seven-Year-Old Will Resume Next Week | The Texan

Oct 18th isn't yet out of date and I don't know anything about Daniel Friend. Evidently, you do. Something you want to share with us or you just spewing BS again?

Transtion for a child of that age is simply allowing her to dress in the gender of their choice, referring to her as the proper gender pronoun for her psychological gender identity. The mother is not making any treatment decisions. There is not any medication administered in the next few years and any surgery is a decade away.

Ensuring Comprehensive Care and Support for Transgender and Gender-Diverse Children and Adolescents | American Academy of Pediatrics

 

[Lisa]

The effectiveness of the treatments in the oncology department can be shown. They have NOTHING regarding the effectiveness of sex reassignment over in the psych department. Absurd to believe a mental disorder requires cosmetic surgery.

Being transgendered is not a mental diisorder and the surgery is not cosmetic.

 

[Visbek]

The effectiveness of the treatments in the oncology department can be shown.

So can the effectiveness of treating gender dysphoria.

Absurd to believe a mental disorder requires cosmetic surgery.

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Gender dysphoria is a medical condition, and yes in some cases it is best treated with surgery. Keep in mind it's not the same thing as an individual who chooses not to conform to gender norms, it's a specific condition that may have a biological (genetic and/or prenatal) basis.

 

[dixon01767]

Re: There's no mutilation in sight

Transtion for a child of that age is simply allowing her to dress in the gender of their choice, referring to her as the proper gender pronoun for her psychological gender identity. The mother is not making any treatment decisions. There is not any medication administered in the next few years and any surgery is a decade away.

Ensuring Comprehensive Care and Support for Transgender and Gender-Diverse Children and Adolescents | American Academy of Pediatrics

AND referral to the Genecis clinic for medical transition when he is 8 or 9 yrs old according to the medical records.

Odeneal has also repeatedly contended that Georgulas does intend to pursue a medical gender transition for James, citing medical records that note James would be referred to doctors at the GENecis clinic for puberty suppression once he reached eight or nine years old.

When these notes were presented to Albritton, he said that he had seen them before but did not include them in his final report for the court because he did not think it seemed relevant.

 

[dixon01767]

So can the effectiveness of treating gender dysphoria.

There is no such evidence. Feel free to point to it.

 

[dixon01767]

Gender dysphoria is a medical condition,.

????? No, its a mental disorder of the mind. Frequently treated with nothing more than counseling sessions.

 

[Lisa]

????? No, its a mental disorder of the mind. Frequently treated with nothing more than counseling sessions.

Counseling is just one part of the multidisciplinary process for gender identity. I'm not sure if you are trolling or just willfully ignorant. People who are transgendered are never cured just by counseling as you seem to be suggesting.

 

[Felis Leo]

Being transgendered is not a mental diisorder and the surgery is not cosmetic.

Would you say it is a physiological disorder? In that one's body does not match one's true sexual identity?

 

[Lisa]

Would you say it is a physiological disorder? In that one's body does not match one's true sexual identity?

If you change sexual identity to gender ideintity than I would agree 100%. The gender of the brain cannot be changed because it is predetermined before birth so medical science is more easily able to give the transgendered person some relief by changing their bodies appeared gender with hormones and then surgery. It is far from perfect but as of now, this is the best that medical science can do. Psychologists and psychiatrists in the past tried to change the psychological gender identity to match the body but many of the patients committed suicide.

 

[Visbek]

????? No, its a mental disorder of the mind. Frequently treated with nothing more than counseling sessions.

As noted above: Your claims are not correct.

Gender dysphoria is not classified as a "mental disorder." The APA removed "gender identity disorder" for DSM-V in 2013. It is certainly not the case that it is treated with "nothing more than counseling." Medicinal and surgical treatments date back nearly 100 years. Hormone therapy is common. Surgery is less common, but far from rare or extraordinary these days.

 

[dcsports]

As noted above: Your claims are not correct.

Gender dysphoria is not classified as a "mental disorder." The APA removed "gender identity disorder" for DSM-V in 2013. It is certainly not the case that it is treated with "nothing more than counseling." Medicinal and surgical treatments date back nearly 100 years. Hormone therapy is common. Surgery is less common, but far from rare or extraordinary these days.

I'll bet both hormone therapy and surgery are pretty uncommon for a 7 year old.

 

[3leftsdoo]

And you still fail to support your claims.

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