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do they have guns too ??:lol:
I was hanging out with a lesbian couple last night here in Dallas
do they have guns too ??:lol:
I didn't say anything about a permit. :shrug:But how would having a permit change that?
Are you saying that cops rigorously write up literally every single jay-walker they see? Or, do most write up only the most egregious ones and ignore the rest?Not really, depending on department politics.
Police officers have supervisors.... their supervisors want to prove to the higher level supervisors that they are "reducing crime". Therefore, the patrol officer often doesn't have a choice in the matter if he does not wish to get written up for failing to "do his job".
Also, im pretty sure someone called to complain about this lemonade stand.
You know damn well that's not true. Cops always have choices.
Which is a misuse of expensive manpower.
File your grievances with those who made the laws.
If they didn't want the laws being enforced, they wouldn't have made them.
You mean alleged cocaine. You couldnt have known in the field if it was cocaine unless the suspect told you so. ANd even then it still would need to be tested before you could formally charge him for possession.
Are you saying that cops rigorously write up literally every single jay-walker they see? Or, do most write up only the most egregious ones and ignore the rest?
But in this case, I agree, if a complaint were called in, they really had no choice. However, if they were simply patrolling and saw it on their own they could have driven on by and nobody would ever have known.
Shoot, I've head stories of cops stopping to check it out, and end up buying some lemonade before going on their way.
PDs don't get off that easy. They have limited resources - manpower and money - and are expected to prioritize the use of those resources in exactly the same way that the President or the AG can prioritize enforcement actions based on the policies they want furthered and the amount of available money.
That doesn't mean that legislature gets a free ride but they aren't an excuse either for stupid enforcement actions.
The President and the AG don't have the responsibility of answering citizen calls for service.
In fact... they hardly answer to the citizens at all up there in the federal bureaucracy.
Besides.... you know the best way to get a dumb law repealed?
Enforce it.
The safety aspect is certainly well-taken. And you're right, some non-safety aspects could come from higher up. Austin TX, for example, has a reputation of leaning on jay-walkers pretty heavily. But even with that, that just increases the frequency, that doesn't necessarily mean every officer writes up every instance they see.That all depends on what they are told.
Most often... Officers out writing up jaywalkers aren't there doing that because they want to......
Like in any profession, there supervisors sometimes want you to focus on particular things some days, based on complaints or stats they want to reduce.
If pedestrians are getting hit by vehicles more often, or minor rear end collisions are happening because someone has to stop/slow suddenly due to a pedestrian crossing the street, then you bet officers are going to be told to be enforcing jaywalking in that area.
Quote for truth.Besides.... you know the best way to get a dumb law repealed?
Enforce it.
I agree but I kinda don't think that's what the guys who are writing the tickets are thinking.
PDs since they ultimately work for the mayor or governor are part of the executive branch and all executive branch agencies get to set budget priorities. So a local PD could choose to spend money on better enforcement of drunk driving laws at the expense of
enforcing administrative laws like demanding kids with lemonade stands are licensed. That's all I'm saying.
Besides.... you know the best way to get a dumb law repealed?
Enforce it.
Yeah, that's the real issue. All these rules and regulations. That's where the problem lies. Once these rules are on the books - the cops have no choice but to enforce them.
Who tells you this ****?
A. He told me it was and
B. You can charge someone with the crime before it is sent to the lab and the results come back.........
not true. they can choose to not enforce them if they want to. nothing says they have to stop and shut it down. it used to be they would pull up and ask for a drink of lemonade.
I can see having a permit to setup a real business this is a kids lemonade stand something that went on for years.
next kids won't be able to mow grass for money because they don't have insurance and everything else. totally stupid and what happens when you live in a nanny state.
not true. they can choose to not enforce them if they want to. nothing says they have to stop and shut it down. it used to be they would pull up and ask for a drink of lemonade.
I can see having a permit to setup a real business this is a kids lemonade stand something that went on for years.
next kids won't be able to mow grass for money because they don't have insurance and everything else. totally stupid and what happens when you live in a nanny state.
How exactly are you going to charge someone with possession of a substance without knowing what the substance is? You can hold the suspect pending the results of the alleged substance. But the charge doesnt really come to light until after that is determined.
Are you saying that cops rigorously write up literally every single jay-walker they see? Or, do most write up only the most egregious ones and ignore the rest?
But in this case, I agree, if a complaint were called in, they really had no choice. However, if they were simply patrolling and saw it on their own they could have driven on by and nobody would ever have known.
Shoot, I've head stories of cops stopping to check it out, and end up buying some lemonade before going on their way.
So you can hold someone for a couple of months without charges?
You watch to much CSI.... the lab doesn't work that fast my brother.
A police officer on Monday approached the stand, which offered lemonade for 50 cents and "kettle korn" for $1.
In patrol-car video, the officer can be heard asking the girls' mother, Sandi Evans, for a permit. She says she wasn't aware they needed one.
A family friend went to City Hall to get one. Authorities waived the $150 fee, but said health department officials needed to inspect the stand.
Overton's police chief says police must follow state health guidelines.
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