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Texas Democrats’ late-night walkout scuppers Republican efforts to restrict voting rights

NewfieMom said:
Unfortunately, this may be true. Those of us who believe that everyone should have the right to vote, have to watch the new anti-democratic tactics of the Republican Party.
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Those of us who believe that everyone legally or illegally able to should have the right to vote,

FIFY.
 
dcsports said:
Absolutely evidence of fraud, lack of transparency, and voting officials not being accountable. And again, no voter suppression. I gave an example above. Assuming if you keep up this 'voter suppression' talking point you aren't interested in a rational, fact based, discussion.
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please identify the thread post number which offers evidence of voter fraud, lack of transparency, and voting officials not being held accountable
 
justabubba said:
please identify the thread post number which offers evidence of voter fraud, lack of transparency, and voting officials not being held accountable
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lol. I just gave an example. Again, if you aren't willing to have a reasoned fact based discussion, I'm done. bye.
 
dcsports said:
Since we're talking this bill, for starters the drive through voting locations. Texas does allow for voting from a car, in a process called curbside voting, which has very specific rules to ensure proper observation. Harris county 'invented' the drive through voting process, arguing that each 'spot' was an individual polling location, a 'structure' (a tent), that the voter was voting inside (car pulls under awning). It was sketchy as could be, and they pushed off the court process to the point where they just shut them down with the end of early voting, then said it was a moot point because they were done.

The problem is that this made the locations difficult to impossible to observe. Poll watchers couldn't observe all of these - normally it was one worker and the car. And questionable results came up - like the number of voters far exceeding the number of cars. A transparency issue - and a huge opportunity for fraud.

The legislature is clarifying - they have curbside voting, which can be used by those who need it. Otherwise, this process isn't allowed.
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what incidents of voter fraud have been found from these drive thru voting locations?

what transparency is being sought which was not already available at these drive thru voting locales?

why is drive thru voting safe for "those who need it" but not for other voters?
 
dcsports said:
lol. I just gave an example. Again, if you aren't willing to have a reasoned fact based discussion, I'm done. bye.
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bye
you forgot to wave your white flag on the way out
 
justabubba said:
what incidents of voter fraud have been found from these drive thru voting locations?

what transparency is being sought which was not already available at these drive thru voting locales?

why is drive thru voting safe for "those who need it" but not for other voters?
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Read above. There was likely fraud involved, but not that could be proven. They didn't allow for proper observation of the voting process.
 
dcsports said:
Read above. There was likely fraud involved, but not that could be proven. They didn't allow for proper observation of the voting process.
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so, that was a concern

unless the voter needs to vote by drive thru and then it is no longer a problem?

see why that makes NO sense?
 
dcsports said:
lol. Gaslighting doesn't help you make your point. It's a failed deflection.
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Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgment.
I'm gaslighting??? Funny. Look in the mirror.
 
justabubba said:
so, that was a concern

unless the voter needs to vote by drive thru and then it is no longer a problem?

see why that makes NO sense?
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Again, there is a process for voting from a car for people who need to do so. It's called curbside voting, and has been in use for years at many more locations than the one experimented with in Harris county. (May be available at all). It also has steps to ensure transparency, including limiting use to people with mobility issues. The drive through voting skipped these rules, arguing that it wasn't voting from a car but from a structure (a tent). Pretty absurd, but they got away with it.
 
Subieguy said:
Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which a person or a group covertly sows seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or group, making them question their own memory, perception, or judgment.
I'm gaslighting??? Funny. Look in the mirror.
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Yes. You were gaslighting. It's a deflection.
 
dcsports said:
Hard to have a rational conversation with people taking that view. There absolutely were challenges. Many took liberties with the election process, and it created legitimate concerns about fairness and transparency. Much of that frustration even boiled over on January 6. Just because some are happy with the outcome, doesn't mean it was a smooth process. It was dirty and ugly, with mudslinging. Just as florida reformed it's process in response to the hanging chads, states should evaluate their process and make adjustments to avoid a repeat.

At a base level, again, I would think all would agree that the pandemic posed unexpected challenges. Now that the legislatures have time to make adjustments, they absolutely should. The rules for an election should not be made on the fly. We definitely need consistent rules to ensure transparency. Experiments made in the moment should be codified,
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Here is the part where I ask you for any evidence the election had any level of fraud and you refuse to provide it.

Evidence or shut up. I am perfectly ok with a repeat of what GOP officials have called the most secure election in history.
 
in Texas voting restriction bill:

Senate Bill 7, the GOP’s priority voting bill, emerged Saturday from a conference committee as an expansive bill that would touch nearly the entire voting process, including provisions to limit early voting hours, curtail local voting options and further tighten voting by mail, among several other provisions. It was negotiated behind closed doors over the last week after the House and Senate passed significantly different versions of the legislation and pulled from each chamber’s version of the bill. The bill also came back with a series of additional voting rule changes, including a new ID requirement for mail-in ballots, that weren’t part of previous debates on the bill.
 
Phys251 said:
Breaking story. This happened just over an hour ago.

www.theguardian.com

Texas Democrats’ late-night walkout scuppers Republican efforts to restrict voting rights

SB7 bill that would introduce restrictions making it harder to vote fails to pass before midnight deadline after Democrats leave House
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Hell yeah! Way to go, Texas Democrats! Hold the line and do NOT let the GQP destroy voting rights! (y)
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Walking away isn't holding the line. In this case, it was an admission of defeat. You should self-quarantine. You have Black Knight Syndrome. It could be the result of an underlying infection.
 
humbolt said:
Walking away isn't holding the line. In this case, it was an admission of defeat. You should self-quarantine. You have Black Knight Syndrome. It could be the result of an underlying infection.
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What a goofy comment by you.
 
gbg3 said:
All legal citizens should vote - if THEY choose to.
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And their Constitutionally-guaranteed right to vote should not be infringed. :)
 
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