Thrilla
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Only if "relatively recently" means "before either of us were born"
FFS...obviously there was opposition to it, it was a means of control, ergo it was an attempt to control others, meaning others felt the opposite.do you understand what "universally" means?..it means there was no opposition... for centuries...all over the world.
you're the one trying to define a gang hit as a politically motivated act
LOL....if you truly have any understanding of those multi-syllable terms (which I seriously doubt) and yet you still decide to play the "which part of that platform is "right wing"?" game, it is either continuing "dick-ness" or sheer ignorance. If it is the later, I suggest Altemeyer, if it is the former, what I said previously stands.dude, i've been around political forums for over a decade... I know every play you are going to attempt. this is the " I have no ****ing answer that fits my agenda, so i'll just say the other guy is too stupid to understand and not give one " play now go sit on the bench and watch ... someone smart might succeed where you have failed. ah **** it... you could have made an argument about cultural conservatism as it relates to ethno-nationalism ... hell you could have used their drug trade as de facto support of laissez-faire capitalism, you might have even went to the old "family values" cupboard. nah.. you chose an ignorant and defunct play from an outdated playbook.... fail.
FFS...obviously there was opposition to it, it was a means of control, ergo it was an attempt to control others, meaning others felt the opposite.
When you have such poor arguments and totally faulty logic, it is the height of absurdity to start acting as if you can teach me.
Good grief.
Uh, no, I didn't but then you still haven't gotten anything about me correct, so at least you are consistent.you're the one trying to define a gang hit as a politically motivated act
Oh...I see....people who engaged in it were not part of any political process in this undefined scenario created by you, therefore there was no "political opposition".i'm sure gay men were opposed.. well, because they were the target of that control.
I'm sure you were smart enough to understand that "universal" didn't mean every single individual on earth... it means the total lack of political opposition
I mean, we are talking about partisan politics here...
if you are going to spew ad homs at me, at least have the common courtesy to wrap an argument around them and pretend you are a worthy opponent.
Um, district attorneys prosecute, the assassination was to curtail prosecution(s). And again, I was not claiming political motivation was the motivation....we call this a straw argument.the article identifies the motivation as a means to stopping a criminal investigation. There seems to be zero political motivation here
Uh, no, I didn't but then you still haven't gotten anything about me correct, so at least you are consistent.
I can't speak for you... but I was born over a decade before any real opposition popped up... when I was born, sodomy was a felony in every single state in the union.
blowjobs were never really political though...until Clinton anyways.
it's funny how far this stupid ass tangent went... dear lord.
Um, you still have not shown where I made it out to be "politically motivated".you just wrote "Your denial still doesn't change the fact that they are US domestic rw terrorists when they start assassinating Texas govt officials."
ignoring the fact that the hit was most likely based on a criminal investigation
Um, you still have not shown where I made it out to be "politically motivated".
Failed straw.
Are you saying a group can only have it's political orientation discussed if and only if everything they do is political?you mean besides you writing "US domestic rw terrorists when they start assassinating Texas govt officials"?
Are you saying a group can only have it's political orientation discussed if and only if everything they do is political?
No, I am saying you clearly insinuated political motivation above.
No, you imagined it, you have been stretching everything I have posted today to fit into your imagination.No, I am saying you clearly insinuated political motivation above.
LOL....if you truly have any understanding of those multi-syllable terms (which I seriously doubt) and yet you still decide to play the "which part of that platform is "right wing"?" game, it is either continuing "dick-ness" or sheer ignorance. If it is the later, I suggest Altemeyer, if it is the former, what I said previously stands.
No, you're just determined to see something that isn't there
Oh...I see....people who engaged in it were not part of any political process in this undefined scenario created by you, therefore there was no "political opposition".
This game is called "moving the goal-posts" by a seasoned masterdebater.
A "win", I'm sure.
Meanwhile, back on topic-
So how did the murders of DA's start? Was a skin head or AB thrown in prison by the DA's office? Seems very focused.
I would have thought both men would be armed and have weapons in their home. Wonder what happened...
holy ****... I gave you 3 avenue where you could have made an argument and you STILL chose not to.
it's ok, I would have destroyed your arguments, had you provided any, in any event.
there is nothing inherently "right wing" in that platform.... it is evident that your personal bias that racism, especially of the extreme variety existing in white people, is an innate right wing trait.... that's fine, there's lots of imbeciles that believe that nonsense.
protip: the "you're stupid" schtick doesn't work with me and you'd be wise to abandon that play.
and yes, I've read The Authoritarians...and to bring his work up here is rather odd , primarily because the AB platform you presented indicates adherence to only 1 of the 3 main characteristics of right wing authoritarians....I think it's rather self evident that AB adhere to a sense of authoritarian aggression ( which speaks to the ethno-nationalism I mentioned).. it's also odd because his work does not support you argument of the group being politically right wing.
TO ALL Brothers who have been chosen to stand, lead, follow, and obey, as one in sincere unity with all the laws and ways of the supreme Aryan Brotherhood of the state of Mississippi the following is our law, code, and orders:
(1-A) An ARYAN BROTHER is one who shows, gives, and demands his respect where it is due and upholds every moral principle and value of and for all the Elite White Aryan Race...
(2-B) Once a chosen prospect has become a full Brother to the brand he will hold that title until his very death. Whether his death be of honor and loyalty to the Brotherhood, or of Dishonor and without loyalty. It is of his own choosing. For that very dishonor and un-loyalty may be the very cause of his death...
(7-A) The Aryan Brotherhood constitution will be read by all prospects at the time of becoming a Brother. Under no circumstances shall the A.B.'s constitution be ignored, neglected, disrespected or used in slander by anyone for any insult is certain of IMMEDIATE DEATH!!!
From a list of AB 'characteristics'
a) Awareness of your surroundings and environment at all times
b) Belief in and of the racial purity of the white race
c) Mental stability
d) Efficiency in acquiring further knowledge
e) Family oriented for your race
f) Genetically of European ancestry
g) Honest in any and all Aryan Business
h) Valuable to the Brotherhood
i) Willingness to be supportive of the Brotherhood outside prison
j) Pact-Bound
k) Strong Willed
l) Obedient of all known Aryan Laws
m) Noble and superior in Nature
n) Keeper of information
really, it seems to be pretty clearly insinuating political motivation. Being A) he cites political affiliation B) calls them terrorists, and C) calls the killing an assasination
Uh....horse...to...water...
Right-wing authoritarianism is defined by three attitudinal and behavioral clusters which correlate together:[12][13]
Authoritarian submission — a high degree of submissiveness to the authorities who are perceived to be established and legitimate in the society in which one lives.
Authoritarian aggression — a general aggressiveness directed against deviants, outgroups, and other people that are perceived to be targets according to established authorities.
Conventionalism — a high degree of adherence to the traditions and social norms that are perceived to be endorsed by society and its established authorities, and a belief that others in one's society should also be required to adhere to these norms
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