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Texas bans shooting immigrants from helicopters


The truth too much for you sport?
 
phoenyx said:
The truth too much for you sport?
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That would be truther conspiracy theories, sport.

I'll pass on your purple Koolaid.
 
Viktyr Gehrig said:
Yeah. Only in America would something like this be outlawed.
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Police murdering unidentified people? No, I think that's banned in most places, actually.
 
My problem with shooting illegal immigrants is the same as shooting anyone who does not represent a threat to others. AlQuida leaders are dangerous people planning to kill Americans (and maybe Canadians) and can be taken out with minimal risk to American ground troops by using a drone. Good shooting Obama. Shooting unarmed guys in the back of a pick up truck is just poor form. There is a bit of a difference.
 

Lets see, there are around 7 Billion people in the world. Somewhere around a Billion, maybe a billion and a half, don't live in abject poverty. So, about 5.5 Billion or more live in conditions that would make what the poor and welfare recipients in the US live in look like a middle to upper middle class life style. Sorry, but we cannot take in all 5.5 Billion of them, where would we put them?
 
Texas?
 

That's all nice to say, but that's not what happened here -


The police weren't shooting at the people for one. Another thing, that truck could have been carrying anything from drugs to arms that makes these smugglers dangerous people.
 
I was just thinking, first the government said we cant ride manatees, now we cant shoot mexicans from helicopters. What next?
 

There's nothing theoretical about the picture presented in the preview above. Did you even look at it? Answers.com has a good explanation of the types of jobs illegal immigrants take and why as well:
US Illegal Immigration Explained - Profits and Poverty, Social Security and Starvation

Also, in case you'd like to see a documentary instead of a fictional narrative based on truths, speaking of the brutal conditions illegal immigrants must face just to become an illegal immigrant, I recommend you watch the following video of a man who actually decided to weather it all with 4 immigrants making the crossing:
Watch Mojados, the Mexican Documentary by Tommy Davis
 
mak2 said:
I was just thinking, first the government said we cant ride manatees, now we cant shoot mexicans from helicopters. What next?
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Reported, that's clearly a Rule 18 violation.
 
mak2 said:
Wow? what is rule number 18?
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mak2 said:
I was just thinking, first the government said we cant ride manatees, now we cant shoot mexicans from helicopters. What next?
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No smoking at the border. Second hand smoke kills illegal immigrants.
 

Really? A big difference? How do you know the guys illegally entering your country in the back of a pickup truck aren't members of Al Quida? The difference, from my perspective, is that the drone attacks are happening in countries most Americans couldn't find on a map and are killing people most Americans identify as dangerous and not like them, even though some of them are actually American citizens. Bring the drone attacks closer to home and all hell would break loose.

Where there is no difference is in shooting indescriminately from the sky from a drone or from a helicopter - to suggest otherwise, is dishonest.
 

And what does any of that matter here? You have it terribly bad in your own country so it's okay to break into another's country? We already have our own hard luck stories and folks born to poverty to deal with.
 
rocket88 said:
No it's not. Turn on your sarcasm detector and lighten up.
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I think it's pushing sarcasm beyond where it should go. Would that type of "sarcasm" be tolerated if jews or americans were the target?
 
phoenyx said:
I think it's pushing sarcasm beyond where it should go. Would that type of "sarcasm" be tolerated if jews or americans were the target?
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We're not allowed to shoot jews from helicopters either?
 

So as a civilian in a helicopter, how would you know?
 
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