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Tesla named 'The Deadliest Car Brand in America', NHTSA data shows (1 Viewer)

Luce said:
Yeah, also not buying anything that fool makes.
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Trouble is your tax dollars are buying a lot of what this fool sells.
 
nvflash said:
Trouble is your tax dollars are buying a lot of what this fool sells.
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I expect that to dramatically increase over the next year.
 
Jessie C said:
GOOD! I hope it's swift and extremely painful! Couldn't happen to a rottener billionaire! Except one, of course......
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Nah, he means Elon's gonna kill the research. He's right.
 
A cybertruck crashing into you at high speed would be devastating. They don’t look like they crumple at all. I read the other day there was no government crash testing but only internal testing. I’m not exactly sure why these are insurable and believe they would be quite deadly to other vehicles in an accident.
 
Tettsuo said:
They are... just not Teslas.
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iSeeCars speculates that the biggest contributor to the fatality rates at a brand level is driver behavior, rather than vehicle design or size.
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As iSeeCars correctly points out, most of these vehicles have robust safety equipment and perform well in crash tests, so it’s not the fault of the cars themselves.
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Using data from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS) and government recall information, AutoinsuranceEZ indicated fires by vehicle type:

Per AutoinsuranceEZ, ICE vehicles are more than 60 times more likely to catch fire than an EV, while hybrids are more than 130 times more likely to catch fire than an EV.

Hybrids reflected the most at 3,475 fires per 100,000 vehicles. This is most likely because hybrids utilize two powertrains.

ICE vehicles caught fire substantially less often, at 1,530 incidents per 100,000 vehicles.
EV fires were significantly lower than the others, with 25 fires per 100,000 vehicles. So of the approximately two million EVs on U.S. roads, less than two out of a 1,000 will catch fire

As to TESLA cars, over 4+ millon Teslas have been produced and delivered, the percentage of those that have had fires is 0.01%
 
Aletheia said:
It wasn't the car's reliability that was generally faulty, but that the behavior of aggregate Tesla drivers whom get into the deadly accidents are too distracted or don't drive safely.
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That was going to be my guess.
 
multivita-man said:
And now we see why Elon wants to eliminate federal spending. What we don't know, won't hurt us, I'm sure.
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Elon lives on federal spending. He eats at that trough all the time. SpaceX alone receives over $3,400,000,000 in federal spending per year.
 
acco40 said:
Tesla named 'The Deadliest Car Brand in America', NHTSA data shows

Carnival barkers seem to attract each other.
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Electric cars have their place. The problem is it will take years to work out the problems. The first gasoline vehicles were not very safe either. They did not have safety glass or seat belts. They were injuring and killing people worse than a pandemic. I think we need to make the transition gradually to allow time for the bugs to be worked out by the manufacturers as well as the users.
 
acco40 said:
Elon lives on federal spending. He eats at that trough all the time. SpaceX alone receives over $3,400,000,000 in federal spending per year.
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Elon has selective interest in federal spending. Space-X and subsidies for his other enterprises? Show him the taxpayer money. Regulation? Not so much.

This is going to be the dawn of a pretty dark era in politics, an era in which private interests raid the taxpayer. It's a hostile takeover of the government and the political system.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Electric cars have their place. The problem is it will take years to work out the problems. The first gasoline vehicles were not very safe either. They did not have safety glass or seat belts. They were injuring and killing people worse than a pandemic. I think we need to make the transition gradually to allow time for the bugs to be worked out by the manufacturers as well as the users.
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EV & hybrids are the future and about 20 years too late too. The litmus test isn't working out the problems until they are 100% problem free, it is when will they become more advantageous than ICE vehicles? For many uses, that time has already come. For other uses, yes it will take more technological advances to tip the scales.
 
acco40 said:
EV & hybrids are the future and about 20 years too late too.
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I never said they weren't.
acco40 said:
The litmus test isn't working out the problems until they are 100% problem free, it is when will they become more advantageous than ICE vehicles?
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They will never be 100% problem free. That is why the gradual switch over will work best allowing time for working out the current problems.
acco40 said:
For many uses, that time has already come. For other uses, yes it will take more technological advances to tip the scales.
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That is why I said they have their place but more improvements need to be made before the people will switch over. The right of the people to chose should be respected by everyone. We don't need a government ordering the people around. We saw how that worked out with Stalin and Hitler.
 
acco40 said:
EV & hybrids are the future and about 20 years too late too. The litmus test isn't working out the problems until they are 100% problem free, it is when will they become more advantageous than ICE vehicles? For many uses, that time has already come. For other uses, yes it will take more technological advances to tip the scales.
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I always thought to be 100% safe (from collisions at least), they would need to implement mandating devices for vehicles to talk to all their neighboring vehicles. The technology is there, but it would take years for drivers and non EV/AI vehicle manufacturers to buy into it though. It would be similar to forcing cars to drive within +/-10 or 20% of the advertised speed limit - technologically feasible, but good luck implementing against people who fight against their own good.
 
Aletheia said:
I always thought to be 100% safe (from collisions at least), they would need to implement mandating devices for vehicles to talk to all their neighboring vehicles. The technology is there, but it would take years for drivers and non EV/AI vehicle manufacturers to buy into it though. It would be similar to forcing cars to drive within +/-10 or 20% of the advertised speed limit - technologically feasible, but good luck implementing against people who fight against their own good.
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You're thinking to small.

One way to be 100% safe for all types of vehicles is to do what they do at airports and shopping malls. Have the vehicles get on a moving highway - similar to people getting on an escalator or moving walkways (travelators) at airports and such.
 
The Cybertruck hasn't been tested by NCAP for Europe so isn't on sale here.
 
acco40 said:
You're thinking to small.

One way to be 100% safe for all types of vehicles is to do what they do at airports and shopping malls. Have the vehicles get on a moving highway - similar to people getting on an escalator or moving walkways (travelators) at airports and such.
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Not sure if you are being sarcastic, but not only would that be cost prohibitive, but the people who fight against their own good would really be up in arms. I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that Elon isn't' going against that pool of people any time soon.
 
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