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Trajan Octavian Titus said:Terrorism is getting on a plane with a person of middle eastern descent after 9/11 and even though no matter how tolerant that you may feel that you are, when that arabic person sitting next to you gets up to go to the bathroom, you're still going to clutch onto those arm rests of yours just a little bit tighter and butterfly's will begin to swarm within the pit of your stomach. And that my friends is exactly what the Bin Ladin's and Al-Zarqawis of the world want. Their goal was not to bring down the twin towers on that fateful day but was in fact to force us to look at our neighbors with suspicion, fear and contempt . . . and in that goal it sadly seems they have succeeded. Terrorism is not feeling safe walking down the streets of a foriegn land for fear of being abducted by thieves in the night who have demented aspirations of sawing the head off of the first westerner unfortunate enough to cross their paths. Terrorism is sitting down to lunch, during a beautiful sunny day, at an outdoor Israeli cafe when all of a sudden you hear the blood curdling scream of Allah Ahkbar, then a loud explosion, followed by eternal silence. Terrorism is teaching childrent to hate before they can read, and teaching them how to destroy rather than how to create. Terrorism is the culmination of everything that's wrong and sick in this world, it is the embodiment of all things that are ugly, vile, and evil which we have chosen to ignore until one day we can't ignore it any longer, because it's at our front doorsteps with eyes blazing, wielding an A.K. 47, clutching a butchers knife in its teeth, with a decapitated head in one hand and a Koran in the other. Terrorism is the White House reduced to rubble and the American flag on fire; it is the death of countless innocents sent via satellite dish into every home in the nation. Terrorism is when murderers are awarded the noble peace prize while heroic and righteous men are portrayed as war criminals. Terrorism is showing fear and cowardice in the face of a determined enemy. Terrorism is making back alley deals with evil regimes in order to make a few rich men just a little bit richer and to line the pockets of despots and tyrants while millions of people slowly starve to death. Terrorism is the need of the few outweighing the need of the many. Terrorism is the deaths head, the swashticka, crystal noch and the entifada all rolled into one. Terrorism is a mushroom cloud over the New York skyline. Terrorism is the third world war and the end of our way of life, it is freedom replaced by fear, liberty replaced by lies, and justice replaced by Jihad. Terrrorism is the death of the American dream, it is the age of reason come to a screeching halt and thrown into full reverse. Terrorism is hopelessness incarnate, it is a plague, a cancer on the world and like any other cancer it must be cut out by the roots. To replace hopelessness with hope, ignorance with understanding, and the fear of the unknown with the knowledge of a better tomorrow . . . and in that goal my friends it joyously seems we are suceeding. God bless America and long live a free Iraq.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:It was really not intended to be a debatable post and I don't actually recall were I mentioned the war on terror in particular save for the long live a free Iraq statement, however, let me comment on the, "you can't defeat a noun," statement that you made. You're absolutely right one must identify the enemy if one is to defeat said enemy. So I'll spell it out for you right here and now who the enemy in the war on terror is so that there won't be any more confusion for dense liberals. The enemy is . . . are you sitting down? The enemy is pan-Islamic fascism based on the tennants of wuhhabism the enemy is not so much a single country or a nation but rather an ideology based on the fannatical teachings of religious clerics. This is not to say that nation states which support terrorism are not going to be targets in this war against terror and to the contrary they are the main targets. And to say that you cannot defeat an ideology is simply wrong we defeated fascism, we defeated communism and you damn sure better believe we're going to defeat radical Islam.
sargasm said:You are kidding right? We did not defeat communism and we did not defeat fascism. They both are alive and kicking in the world today. China, Cuba, Vietnam, Korea, Cambodia, Laus, all communist. And as for Fascism, virtually every third world country in the world has a facist/ extremely corrupt government. South america and africa are full of fascist and totalitarian governments. How can you defeat radical Islam??? You cant. You can never defeat and ideology. The only way to do what you're saying is to kill every muslim in the world and that isnt going to happen and if it did, who would be the terrorists then?
Trajan Octavian Titus said:Terrorism is getting on a plane with a person of middle eastern descent after 9/11 and even though no matter how tolerant that you may feel that you are, when that arabic person sitting next to you gets up to go to the bathroom, you're still going to clutch onto those arm rests of yours just a little bit tighter and butterfly's will begin to swarm within the pit of your stomach. And that my friends is exactly what the Bin Ladin's and Al-Zarqawis of the world want. Their goal was not to bring down the twin towers on that fateful day but was in fact to force us to look at our neighbors with suspicion, fear and contempt . . . and in that goal it sadly seems they have succeeded. Terrorism is not feeling safe walking down the streets of a foriegn land for fear of being abducted by thieves in the night who have demented aspirations of sawing the head off of the first westerner unfortunate enough to cross their paths. Terrorism is sitting down to lunch, during a beautiful sunny day, at an outdoor Israeli cafe when all of a sudden you hear the blood curdling scream of Allah Ahkbar, then a loud explosion, followed by eternal silence. Terrorism is teaching childrent to hate before they can read, and teaching them how to destroy rather than how to create. Terrorism is the culmination of everything that's wrong and sick in this world, it is the embodiment of all things that are ugly, vile, and evil which we have chosen to ignore until one day we can't ignore it any longer, because it's at our front doorsteps with eyes blazing, wielding an A.K. 47, clutching a butchers knife in its teeth, with a decapitated head in one hand and a Koran in the other. Terrorism is the White House reduced to rubble and the American flag on fire; it is the death of countless innocents sent via satellite dish into every home in the nation. Terrorism is when murderers are awarded the noble peace prize while heroic and righteous men are portrayed as war criminals. Terrorism is showing fear and cowardice in the face of a determined enemy. Terrorism is making back alley deals with evil regimes in order to make a few rich men just a little bit richer and to line the pockets of despots and tyrants while millions of people slowly starve to death. Terrorism is the need of the few outweighing the need of the many. Terrorism is the deaths head, the swashticka, crystal noch and the entifada all rolled into one. Terrorism is a mushroom cloud over the New York skyline. Terrorism is the third world war and the end of our way of life, it is freedom replaced by fear, liberty replaced by lies, and justice replaced by Jihad. Terrrorism is the death of the American dream, it is the age of reason come to a screeching halt and thrown into full reverse. Terrorism is hopelessness incarnate, it is a plague, a cancer on the world and like any other cancer it must be cut out by the roots. To replace hopelessness with hope, ignorance with understanding, and the fear of the unknown with the knowledge of a better tomorrow . . . and in that goal my friends it joyously seems we are suceeding. God bless America and long live a free Iraq.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:You're kidding me right? We didn't defeat communism and fascism? LMFAO tell that to Hitler and Mussolini and the former USSR now known as Russia. Get real buddy oh and the South east Asian countries which you mentioned are still technically communist but are also very much capitalist my friend! Oh and name one totalitarian gov't that exists now that has even the slightest chance of becoming a one world gov't eg a totalitarian gov't! You should look into what totalitarian actually means . . . words mean things lmfao!
Trajan Octavian Titus said:You're kidding me right? We didn't defeat communism and fascism? LMFAO tell that to Hitler and Mussolini and the former USSR now known as Russia. Get real buddy oh and the South east Asian countries which you mentioned are still technically communist but are also very much capitalist my friend! Oh and name one totalitarian gov't that exists now that has even the slightest chance of becoming a one world gov't eg a totalitarian gov't! You should look into what totalitarian actually means . . . words mean things lmfao!
As I said before, terrorism is simply a tactic. It is used by a group to further their own means. We cannot fight a war against a tactic. Fighting a "War on terror" is exactly like saying we are fighting a "war on guerilla warfare". Again, not possible.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:How exactly am I not making sense in reference to the totalitarian comment you asked me for my definition of totalitarian and I gave it to you.
IValueFreedom said:Umm... in all those states listed previously, they ALL have a democratic constitution. They tend to be quite vague, as there is no set standard for a "democracy," so while they're a democracy on paper, they're (insert non-democratic for of government here) in practice. You're exactly backwards in your thinking.
"You should look into what totalitarian actually means" Why don't you inform me? Let's see just how ignorant in your thinking you are. I challenge you... tell me what it is. Keep in mind that household dictionaries don't count as a credible source. You'll get laughed at if you post one of those.
sargasm said:(Russia was only a fraction of it btw)
sargasm said:The only country out of those that is remotely capitalist is china and that is only in large internal markets.
Trajan Octavian Titus said:ya I realize that, and the fall of the Soviet Union is one of my first memories of politics, how old were you like 4? It's different than reading it out of a book when your actually conscience of the world around you when the event happened, if you can't remember when the Soviet Union was a global power then I can't even explain to you how communism was defeated when it fell.
As I said before, terrorism is simply a tactic. It is used by a group to further their own means. We cannot fight a war against a tactic. Fighting a "War on terror" is exactly like saying we are fighting a "war on guerilla warfare". Again, not possible.
nkgupta80 said:Its like the war on crime... a very bold and stupid idea.
Anyways the bush administration is finally realizin that something idealistic and stupid like "war on terror" just doesn't cut it. Now its war on global extremism or something. Atleast its headed in the right direction. They've better specified the ideology they are hunting down now.
Originally posted by Crispy
Are you all honestly saying that this was not your understanding of this war?
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