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A Tulsa police officer shot and killed an African American man who ignored repeated requests to put up his hands before reaching into an SUV that was stalled in the middle of a street, the police department said.
“He refused to follow commands given by the officers,” MacKenzie said. “They continued to talk to him; he continued not to listen and follow any commands. As they got closer to the vehicle, he reached inside the vehicle and at that time there was a Taser deployment and a short time later there was one shot fired.”
As it shoots yet another black unarmed man.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/17/tulsa-oklahoma-police-shooting-suv
And that is the problem, police lie and sadly regularly get away with their lies. It is time for body cams so that the good officers do not have to suffer with the bad officers who shoot people dead and lie about it.
As it shoots yet another black unarmed man.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/17/tulsa-oklahoma-police-shooting-suv
And that is the problem, police lie and sadly regularly get away with their lies. It is time for body cams so that the good officers do not have to suffer with the bad officers who shoot people dead and lie about it.
As it shoots yet another black unarmed man.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/17/tulsa-oklahoma-police-shooting-suv
And that is the problem, police lie and sadly regularly get away with their lies. It is time for body cams so that the good officers do not have to suffer with the bad officers who shoot people dead and lie about it.
How do you know they are lying?
It certainly doesn't seem that way to me.
As it shoots yet another black unarmed man.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/17/tulsa-oklahoma-police-shooting-suv
And that is the problem, police lie and sadly regularly get away with their lies. It is time for body cams so that the good officers do not have to suffer with the bad officers who shoot people dead and lie about it.
Unless you have evidence the officers are lying (and lack of a camera does not constitute evidence of lying ) then this is a justified shoot. "Show me your hands" when spoken in the English language does not mean "disobey legal commands and put your hands somewhere where officers don't know if you have a weapon"
Looks like putting your hands in the air isn't enough.
Sorry, was still busy with looking up the video information on Youtube:
Here is the video of the man, whom the police said that he was not holding up his hands. Warning, video is graphic and disturbing.
Sorry, was still busy with looking up the video information on Youtube:
Here is the video of the man, whom the police said that he was not holding up his hands. Warning, video is graphic and disturbing.
During a press conference on Monday, Tulsa Police Chief Chuck Jordan called the video footage “very disturbing — it’s very difficult to watch.” He said there was no gun found on Crutcher or in his vehicle.
“I will just make this promise to you: We will achieve justice in this case,” Jordan said. “I want to assure our community and I want to assure all of you and people across the nation who are going to be looking at this: We will achieve justice ― period.”
Like up in the air? I've heard a lot about the cloud but I didn't know there might be guns there.
Looks like putting your hands in the air isn't enough.
It's strange. From what it looks like to me, he started off with his hands in the air, then walked over to the vehicle and lowered them.
Well, it is if you're, you know, white.
The video doesn't show that, I think you're inferring it from what appears to be a delay in the audio, he has his hands up, walks toward the car, the officers surround him at which point he is no longer visibly raising his hands, they close and he dissappears mostly from view then falls.
I am not seeing a shot when he has his up, I am hearing what sounds like one while he does, but he stays standing for several more seconds while lowering his hands
Sorry, was still busy with looking up the video information on Youtube:
Here is the video of the man, whom the police said that he was not holding up his hands. Warning, video is graphic and disturbing.
To be fair to him he is dying while he lowers his hands. I'll give him a pass on that....
Let's take this step by step.
1. The video starts with the victim near the police car. Then he turns and begins to walk away with his hands up.
2. At 0.16 someone in the helicopter states "That guy is still walking," then a pause and at 0.18 "He's not following commands" and the someone else states at 0.20 "That's for tazer I think."
3. We see the victim at the car door doing something with his hands down. Trying to get in through the window? Hard to tell because the helicopter angles around so that at 0.31 we see him go down. (Tazering.)
4. The angle is obscured but by 0.38 we see he is not lying flat, but sideways so that the officers see his back.
5. Between 0.38 and 0.40 he is shot and then we see him roll flat on his back with a wound in the upper torso.
Assessment:
The victim was acting improperly by failing to follow the first officer's lawful commands to stop.
The victim further escalated the situation by fiddling with his car and refusing to respond to lawful commands. This led to the initial tazering.
IMO the female officer suspected something because she could not see his hands.
She over-reacted to a non-threat.
I do not believe her act was based on a valid assessment of the situation and would hold it a "bad shoot."
well facts have a liberal bias so you could be right. Plus the pastor was black.
He was shot with a taser prior to being shot, and if he is being zapped shortly after 0.20, all that follows, his hands going down, his hands on the window, can all be the result of the taser. Usually when someone is shot with a taser there is no need to shoot a person second later when they were standing nowhere near the suspect and him clearly not being a danger to the officers.
Maybe that had to do with the taser being fired into him? Possibly? We all know that people loose the ability to hold their hands up when zapped with thousands of volts.
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