Ted Cruz demands meeting with the Commandant of the USMC

[Rawley]

The military isn't using force to destroy civilian leadership, they spoke up about their female members being disrespected.

I know I'm silly to ask, but which of Carlson's comments, feel free to quote him since your other friends here can't seem to do that, "disrespected" the female members of the military?

 

[Variant]

Uh huh. I've been to countries where the military felt it had the right to go after civilians who "disrespected" it. No thanks.

And the military has a very different idea of what "respect" constitutes than the civilian world. You can go to jail for being rude to your boss. You don't want us getting the idea that it's our job or right or privilege to push our notions of respect onto you.

Yeah it's a hop skip and jump from the military defending it's female members to overthrowing the civilian leadership and suddenly we live in Myanmar.

 

[Variant]

I know I'm silly to ask, but which of Carlson's comments, feel free to quote him since your other friends here can't seem to do that, "disrespected" the female members of the military?

As you wish.

“So we’ve got new hairstyles and maternity flight suits. Pregnant women are going to fight our wars. It’s a mockery of the U.S. military,” said Carlson. “While China’s military becomes more masculine as it’s assembled the world’s largest Navy, our military needs to become, as Joe Biden says, more feminine — whatever feminine means any more, since men and women no longer exist.”

 

[cpwill]

Yeah it's a hop skip and jump from the military defending it's female members to overthrowing the civilian leadership and suddenly we live in Myanmar.

No. It's a long series of small steps, each fed by the previous precedent, and for a "good reason".

 

[joko104]

That would be to also attack their coworkers and fellow military folks so I would say it's sketchy.

So it really is about certain officers in the military promoting one agenda, while no officer dare promote an opposing agenda?

If you think the majority of officers or enlisted in the military support women going into combat roles I am fairly confident that is not accurate. As my daughter moved from one first-woman role to another she was given hell the first couple of years by male COs who would go to near fanatical degrees to try to get rid of her.

It was as extreme as openly being told he'll never have a woman in his unit and is going to give her hell - and did so - urging her to file a formal complaint - and uniquely ordering only her to do double and triple shifts for heavy manual labor tasks, none in her duty area. She never took the bait. Never has played the poor-female-me card, though she did allow him to destroy is own career when it finally came to a showdown - her blocking a major high profile mission and her male team members joining her mutiny - all about the mission, not sex-issues.

She let him hang himself. And he did. After crushing a couple such CO's careers, and in a way that she had in fact saved the day (save lives and assets), while COs that did the opposite could share in the glories of successful missions this all reversed.

My guess is the MAJORITY of those in the military oppose women being anywhere near combat. I'm on the exact opposite side of that viewpoint. Tucker? Tucker is nothing, nobody, in regards to any of this.

 

[Variant]

No. It's a long series of small steps, each fed by the previous precedent, and for a "good reason".

We'll have to deal with that slippery slope as it comes up I guess. What do you suppose the next step is after speaking out of turn to defend female members?

 

[BlueTex]

Thats why they hire public relations people who are trained in such matters to do it in the companies best intrests. Not by someone in the shipping department on Twitter.

LMAO... The Sgt Major is a shipping clerk?

 

[Variant]

So it really is about certain officers in the military promoting one agenda, while no officer dare promote an opposing agenda?

No, I just think that making comments denouncing fellow service members for having a vagina is likely to go over like a lead balloon and probably get some serious attention from ones superiors.

Thankfully that's where we are today and it's terrific in my opinion.

 

[Rawley]

As you wish.

“So we’ve got new hairstyles and maternity flight suits. Pregnant women are going to fight our wars. It’s a mockery of the U.S. military,” said Carlson. “While China’s military becomes more masculine as it’s assembled the world’s largest Navy, our military needs to become, as Joe Biden says, more feminine — whatever feminine means any more, since men and women no longer exist.”

Thank you for that.

OK. Did you watch the video? How is that disrespecting women? It's clear that he was disrespecting Biden in regard to his China policy and mocking Biden's silly gender identity bullshit he's pushing.

 

[Variant]

Thank you for that.

OK. Did you watch the video? How is that disrespecting women? It's clear that he was disrespecting Biden in regard to his China policy and mocking Biden's silly gender identity bullshit he's pushing.

It's hard to miss the direct idea that he thinks the military becoming more welcoming toward females makes us weak. That these are "Biden's" policies is funny because they have been going on for decades. I even quoted some coming from the Trump administration itself. On the other hand building a bigger navy would make us more "masculine" (like China).

 

[Rawley]

It's hard to miss the direct idea that he thinks the military becoming more welcoming toward females makes us weak. That these are "Biden's" policies is funny because they have been going on for decades. I even quoted some coming from the Trump administration itself. On the other hand building a bigger navy would make us more "masculine" (like China).

You should watch the video. Whether Biden's Alzheimer's kicked in or they actually drafted this in his speech, he told us that they were fitting women for combat uniforms. That has not been the policy in the US for decades. It was a social experiment started at the end of the Obama administration.

Which Carlson satrically contrasted with China's express policy to make their boys more masculine.

Again, I fail to see how any of this "disrespects" women in the military.

 

[Variant]

You should watch the video. Whether Biden's Alzheimer's kicked in or they actually drafted this in his speech, he told us that they were fitting women for combat uniforms. That has not been the policy in the US for decades. It was a social experiment started at the end of the Obama administration.

Which Carlson satrically contrasted with China's express policy to make their boys more masculine.

Again, I fail to see how any of this "disrespects" women in the military.

Ah so we've successfully moved on to the 'Tucker didn't really mean it" response?

There was nothing sarcastic about the comparison.

 

[j brown's body]

Did Tedster have his meeting yet?

 

[Rawley]

Ah so we've successfully moved on to the 'Tucker didn't really mean it" response?

??? When did I ever say that?

 

[Questerr]

As you wish.

“So we’ve got new hairstyles and maternity flight suits. Pregnant women are going to fight our wars. It’s a mockery of the U.S. military,” said Carlson. “While China’s military becomes more masculine as it’s assembled the world’s largest Navy, our military needs to become, as Joe Biden says, more feminine — whatever feminine means any more, since men and women no longer exist.”

Can we also discuss the issue of Tucker thinking anything feminine is inherently bad?

 

[Variant]

Can we also discuss the issue of Tucker thinking anything feminine is inherently bad?

I mean that is the obvious implication. I figure people might pick up on it.

 

[Variant]

??? When did I ever say that?

You weren't trying to say that he didn't flat out say that making the military more open to female service members was bad? He flat out said it made the military more feminine (feminine bad) and that that was a bad thing as opposed to having more ships which is masculine (masculine good) You dismissed it as sarcasm, and there was nothing sarcastic about his implication.

 

[SCrider]

It doesn't matter what he was sharing. Uniformed military officials don't get to comment on it from their official perch. If any of the people involved had put out messages celebrating women veterans and service members without mentioning a controversy, or chosen to issue private statements as private individuals, they could have been on the right side of the rules, here. But they chose not to.

Military leadership during the last administration got used to the idea that, if they really didn't like Policy, they could just choose not to follow it in good faith. That ought to seriously worry us.

So Tucker was basically lying about the military, and you don't think the military has the right to dispute his lies?

 

[bomberfox]

Financially ruin ****er carlson

 

[CaughtInThe]

Ted Cruz...

 

[joko104]

Thank you for that.

OK. Did you watch the video? How is that disrespecting women? It's clear that he was disrespecting Biden in regard to his China policy and mocking Biden's silly gender identity bullshit he's pushing.

He was not mocking women and Biden is too new for any of this to really be Biden policies. What Tucker said was just stupid and wrong, but so what? He missed his mark per what his goal was - to criticize women in combat, a popular perspective. I disagree and his examples were just stupid and not even relevant to that topic.

Yes, women in the military need uniforms and body armor that fits them. Arguing otherwise is just stupid. The military has always favored military families having babies because most military personnel come from military families. Nothing new about the military accommodating pregnant military women - whether in the military or married to someone who is. The military also sees family people as making better more reliable military personnel in terms of career military personnel from what I've been told by some retired high rankers in the military.

When Biden called Airmen "dull slow stupid bastards" and ordered them to applaud him was when they were silent to his announcing he was recommending a woman to the Air Force Academy. Why would a room of men cheer him announcing essentially, "I have not recommended any of you for anything because you are males." Why would any man cheer that?

Every time Biden announces he appointed someone solely because they aren't white or they aren't male, it is a blunt sexist and racist attack against all white people and all men. THAT, not what Tucker said, is what makes for resentment and lack of cohesion. If the Commander In Chief is bragging about discriminating against you for your race and/or sex, sexual orientation or whatever, it is highly offensive and causes resentment toward the race, sex/gender or sexual orientation that now are given favorable treatment without it being merit based.

 

[Rawley]

You weren't trying to say that he didn't flat out say that making the military more open to female service members was bad?

Not at all

You dismissed it as sarcasm, and there was nothing sarcastic about his implication.

His sarcasm related to China's policy of making their boy's more masculine and Biden's new policy can't tell the difference between men and women.

No, he was genuine in his criticism of putting pregnant women in combat positions.

 

[joko104]

No, I just think that making comments denouncing fellow service members for having a vagina is likely to go over like a lead balloon and probably get some serious attention from ones superiors.

Thankfully that's where we are today and it's terrific in my opinion.

Therefore, Biden's solution is to announce he discriminates against service members with a penis - and continues to openly discriminate against white men?

What Tucker said was stupid and inaccurate in may ways. But what Tucker says is irrelevant to anything. What Biden said is most relevant of all.

 

[MaryP]

They did it because they took the high road, not because they were actually wrong.

And this is not a political issue. Simply claiming something like this is "political" is part of the problem.

I agree. I only listened to two officials' comments, but for the most part, they were standing up for their soldiers. Is that really inappropriate? Yes, they could have left out their snarky comments about Tucker Carlson, but really, when a guy goes on national tv saying the military is going sissy for designing uniforms that fit the women? I'd kind of expect some kind of response to that.

 

[Variant]

Therefore, Biden's solution is to announce he discriminates against service members with a penis - and continues to openly discriminate against white men?

What?