TEACHER FIRED FOR BEING AT JANUARY 6TH RALLY

[justabubba]

He claimed there was an "unsafe" environment. I would very much like that to be qualified.

it would not surprise me if he received threats after the teacher's presence at the 'stop the steal' rally and his ensuing facebook posts were made public by the media
those of us who are not members of the reich wing tend to hold no fondness for the insurrectionists or those who defend them
some of the most radical on the left fringe make their dissatisfaction known in inappropriate ways
while i have seen nothing which says the (former) teacher received threats, it would not be unexpected if that happened

 

[HikerGuy83]

The suggestion that he'll sue the school and retire early (or words to that effect). You made it sound like it was easy peasy. But so far I've seen nothing to suggest he has a case. Maybe he does have a case. But if he does, I haven't seen the evidence for it.

I said IF he can demonstrate those things......

But I grow tired of these manufactured arguments.

 

[Hamish Howl]

womp womp

 

[Hamish Howl]

Unfortunately, it seems the story is a little more subtle.

Sounds like he felt the school board had branded him and would not do anything to help him feel batter about going back into the classroom.

Aw, his feeeeeeeeeeeeeelings were hurt?

 

[Cardinal]

Aw, his feeeeeeeeeeeeeelings were hurt?

According to the article, the loser....er, I mean Jason Moorehead...wanted the school to tell him he was "safe."

 

[Hamish Howl]

According to the article, the loser....er, I mean Jason Moorehead...wanted the school to tell him he was "safe."

He needed a safe place.

 

[Cardinal]

I said IF he can demonstrate those things......

But I grow tired of these manufactured arguments.

We can go to a lot of places with "if" in the driver's seat.

 

[HikerGuy83]

We can go to a lot of places with "if" in the driver's seat.

We are not going anywhere.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Generally speaking school boards are full of bull. They stretch their authority well beyond it's intent and allow their personal biases to play too big a role in what happens in a school district.

 

[tshade]

No special classes for him.

Byeee, good riddance. And good luck finding another job that requires a degree.

?? wrong---the board required special classes for him to return. Classes about rascism sensitivity, etc.......

 

[HumblePi]

The adjective 'bizarre' just doesn't cut it to describe the irony of this story.

"The district said previously Moorehead’s social media posts about the events of Jan. 6, and not just his presence in Washington that day, were the focus of its probe last year.

Moorehead was officially reinstated in July 2021, after the investigation found he had violated the district’s social media policies, but not its outside activities policy."

Okay, so for me, that's the end of the argument. I want to remind everyone that Pennsylvania is most definitely going to be playing a big role in upcoming elections. The state played a big role in the 2020 election, but the midterms will sort out who the people of Pennsylvania want to run their state as Governor. Doug Mastriano is running against democratic Attorney General Josh Shapiro.


Doug Mastriano was at the rally too, but that shouldn't be a reason that people in Pennsylvania should not vote for him in the midterms. The fact that he's openly racist and homophobic, plus the fact that he has already stated that if he is elected Governor of Pa., he will rig the 2024 election is why he should be rejected. It doesn't matter that he's openly racist or vowed to rig the presidential election in 2024, the fact is, republicans in PA., will support Mastriano because he's openly racist and will rig the election. Yes, they want that. Republicans have no integrity or patriotism left in their party. They will try to win at all cost. That's not a political party, that's a cabal whose platform is antithetical to American democracy.

In the 2020 election, Mastriano introduced a resolution urging Congress to ignore the official results. His plan was for the Pennsylvania legislature to ignore millions of votes and directly appoint electors pledged to Trump. If he's elected as Governor, he has already publicly stated that he will hand-pick electors that are solidly pro-Republican candidates.

And here we are, talking about the 'awful' nobody teacher whose career means nothing to anyone but himself while this country is seeing more candidates like Doug Mastriano who are planning to overturn election results, put in fake electors, and change the outcome of our next presidential election.

 

[notquiteright]

Unfortunately, it seems the story is a little more subtle. Sounds like he felt the school board had branded him and would not do anything to help him feel batter about going back into the classroom. The problem is that when you pick a fight like this (you against city hall), if you don't have some backup you are screwed. The board sounds like a bunch of woke morons (just on the surface). But, he approached it wrong.

And lost.

Sounds like the teacher was a MAGA Moron who wanted the board to kiss his feet before he would return to the classroom (see it can be stated both ways)

But you are correct- if you set an unrealistic demand to 'city hall' you are going to be very sad.''

Now the board are the parents whose children attend the school. Call them what you want, they are the locals with the most invested this BBQ...

 

[Cardinal]

?? wrong---the board required special classes for him to return. Classes about rascism sensitivity, etc.......

A nuisance at worst. If that's the "unsafe environment" he spoke of then his case is even weaker than I thought.

 

[Galactic Spin]

?? wrong---the board required special classes for him to return. Classes about rascism sensitivity, etc.......

He gets no special classes, because he decided to stop coming to work. He made his bed, now he gets to gun for Hardee's manager for the rest of his life.

 

[notquiteright]

there is a unique carve out where this appears to be the case

if a minority perp refuses to heed police commands and then is shot/killed in the process, that will often earn a massive check to the surviving family members

Used to was you had to be a threat to the Officer or others before several cops unloaded their magazines on you. These days just not obeying quick enough earns you a few dozen holes...

"I thought I saw a gun"...

 

[HumblePi]

Shouldn't all teachers be college-educated regarding the importance of knowing something about the backgrounds of their students, who come from different races and cultures? Teachers have a big influence on their students, and they can actually affect the course of a child's life. Any hint of racism in our classrooms and curriculums reflects the systemic racism that exists in our schools. That needs to end, otherwise, we're only perpetuating racism for future generations of adults.

 

[justabubba]

A nuisance at worst. If that's the "unsafe environment" he spoke of then his case is even weaker than I thought.

moorehead's attorney:

... Moorehead has been employed as an Allentown teacher for 17 years, and said the district had erred by putting out a statement that wrongly implied he was “violently protesting.”

“To never correct that statement after they learned that he was nowhere near the Capitol building protest…is defamatory ...

was the school/board appropriate in not correcting its public statement that the teacher was "violently protesting"?

what does such a statement from the school system say to the parents of the children who attend the school where this man taught?

seems to me that it is disrespectful to say someone was "violently protesting" when he was not. the school has admitted it. the school's stated concern was his facebook posts regarding the stop the steal rally and ensuing riot/insurrection, NOT his presence in DC

does that seem like other than a hostile work environment in which the teacher was expected to enter?

Suspended Allentown Teacher Tells CNN He Didn’t Storm Capitol

An Allentown teacher who was suspended from his job after attending the Jan. 6 "Stop the Steal" rally in support of former president Donald Trump in Washington, D.C., criticized the district in an interview with CNN's Michael Smerconish Saturday.

sauconsource.com

 

[Cardinal]

moorehead's attorney:

was the school/board appropriate in not correcting its public statement that the teacher was "violently protesting"?

what does such a statement from the school system say to the parents of the children who attend the school where this man taught?

seems to me that it is disrespectful to say someone was "violently protesting" when he was not. the school has admitted it. the school's stated concern was his facebook posts regarding the stop the steal rally and ensuing riot/insurrection, NOT his presence in DC

does that seem like other than a hostile work environment in which the teacher was expected to enter?

Suspended Allentown Teacher Tells CNN He Didn’t Storm Capitol

An Allentown teacher who was suspended from his job after attending the Jan. 6 "Stop the Steal" rally in support of former president Donald Trump in Washington, D.C., criticized the district in an interview with CNN's Michael Smerconish Saturday.

sauconsource.com

It was disrespectful, but that doesn’t sound like an adequate description of an “unsafe environment.”

 

[justabubba]

Used to was you had to be a threat to the Officer or others before several cops unloaded their magazines on you. These days just not obeying quick enough earns you a few dozen holes...

"I thought I saw a gun"...

there have been instances in which the cop was too intent on pulling the trigger before understanding the suspect's circumstances. the instance in which the driver was killed after the driver to the cop he was reaching into the glove compartment to retrieve his license and registration and the cop shot, scared the driver was going to pull out a firearm. another time when a young kid was playing with a toy gun and the police shot and killed him in the belief he could have put them in harm's way with his toy that had the appearance of a genuine firearm. my point is wrongful shootings can and do happen. but my point also is those situations tend to be the exception rather than the rule. in almost every killing by cop, we will find there was a young man who failed to follow the directions the cop was giving him in order for them both to leave the scene upright
which reality informs me there is an easy solution to end most of the tragic shoot by cop deaths: teach our kids, especially our teens, especially our black teens, do what the cop says. listen and follow those instructions. DO WHAT THE COP SAYS! and if the cop was in the wrong, remain alive to sue that cop and the cop's employer later for the wrong that was committed

 

[justabubba]

It was disrespectful, but that doesn’t sound like an adequate description of an “unsafe environment.”

we have a different opinion about what constitutes a hostile work environment
if my employer FALSELY announces to the public i serve that i have been "violently protesting" at our nations capitol, implicating me in the riot/insurrection, my inclination is going to be that my employer has told my clients that i am distrustful and violent
maybe you do not see that as a hostile environment for a teacher
but that is how he sees it, as he refused to return because the school never rescinded its false characterization about him
even tho he is a MAGAt, he is right about this ... in my never humble opinion

 

[Cardinal]

we have a different opinion about what constitutes a hostile work environment
if my employer FALSELY announces to the public i serve that i have been "violently protesting" at our nations capitol, implicating me in the riot/insurrection, my inclination is going to be that my employer has told my clients that i am distrustful and violent
maybe you do not see that as a hostile environment for a teacher
but that is how he sees it, as he refused to return because the school never rescinded its false characterization about him
even tho he is a MAGAt, he is right about this ... in my never humble opinion

He said it was an "unsafe environment."

 

[notquiteright]

there have been instances in which the cop was too intent on pulling the trigger before understanding the suspect's circumstances. the instance in which the driver was killed after the driver to the cop he was reaching into the glove compartment to retrieve his license and registration and the cop shot, scared the driver was going to pull out a firearm. another time when a young kid was playing with a toy gun and the police shot and killed him in the belief he could have put them in harm's way with his toy that had the appearance of a genuine firearm. my point is wrongful shootings can and do happen. but my point also is those situations tend to be the exception rather than the rule. in almost every killing by cop, we will find there was a young man who failed to follow the directions the cop was giving him in order for them both to leave the scene upright
which reality informs me there is an easy solution to end most of the tragic shoot by cop deaths: teach our kids, especially our teens, especially our black teens, do what the cop says. listen and follow those instructions. DO WHAT THE COP SAYS! and if the cop was in the wrong, remain alive to sue that cop and the cop's employer later for the wrong that was committed

Well, it seems you are stating an opinion when it comes when deadly force is permissible. Simply not obeying a cop as quickly as he/she thinks is acceptable shouldn't be a death sentence. Running away isn't a threat and shooting the runner not acceptable. How many times has the body cam/dash cam footage put lie to the LEO's statement??? How many times does it take months of waiting to finally see the footage???

It also seems an opinion on how many times a family falsely sues and gets a big pay out is debatable as you seem to think the death penalty applied if a citizen is slow responding to an Officer...

 

[justabubba]

He said it was an "unsafe environment."

is a hostile work environment a "safe" environment?

 

[Cardinal]

is a hostile work environment a "safe" environment?

Maybe, maybe not. But he said “unsafe.”

 

[justabubba]

Well, it seems you are stating an opinion when it comes when deadly force is permissible. Simply not obeying a cop as quickly as he/she thinks is acceptable shouldn't be a death sentence. Running away isn't a threat and shooting the runner not acceptable. How many times has the body cam/dash cam footage put lie to the LEO's statement??? How many times does it take months of waiting to finally see the footage???

It also seems an opinion on how many times a family falsely sues and gets a big pay out is debatable as you seem to think the death penalty applied if a citizen is slow responding to an Officer...

if the suspect was culpable to the firing of a police weapon because the suspect unreasonably refused to heed the cop's directive, then i do believe money damages are not warranted