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Tea Party Favorites need a lesson in History?

mertex

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Tea Party favorites Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin took it upon themselves to critique the President's State of the Union Address and what they ended up doing was showing the country how under educated they really are when it comes to History.

Bachmann went on to give credit to the Founding Fathers for ending slavery. I guess because she wasn't around during the Civil War, she may think it didn't take place. Is that another Republican re-write of History?

Then Palin went so far as to give Russia credit for beating us to the moon? Obama rightly claimed our victory in Space when we were the only ones able to put men on the moon back in 1969 - but Palin rather than acknowledge our country's victory goes on to claim that Russia won the Space race! Then she claims that winning the space race caused Russia to collapse - only problem, it was 30 years later!

I know the Republicans seem to show a disdain for Education, as they favor Presidential candidates of the "folksy" type, and criticize as elitists anyone with Super Duper education, but isn't this going a bit too far? Really, is this the type of representation that the GOP wants? Or, does the GOP even acknowledge them as part of the Republican Party?


Bachmann Claims Founding Fathers Ended Slavery

Sarah Palin thinks Russia Won the Space Race
 

They're like the same person, really. My favorite Palin one is when she couldn't name a newspaper that she reads. Or, the one where she said she has foreign policy experience because she is from Alaska which is close to Russia!

The entire Couric interview was pure gold Jerry, pure gold.
 
Russia did win the space race, they got the first person in space, and the competition with America over defence and technology, of which the space race was a part, did in part lead to the downfall of the USSR, so she's not entirely wrong.
 
spud_meister said:
Russia did win the space race, they got the first person in space, and the competition with America over defence and technology, of which the space race was a part, did in part lead to the downfall of the USSR, so she's not entirely wrong.
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Really depends on how you define the space race, if it was just getting into space, then yes the USSR won, but if you expand it to getting a man on the moon, then the US won.
 
Your Star said:
Really depends on how you define the space race, if it was just getting into space, then yes the USSR won, but if you expand it to getting a man on the moon, then the US won.
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But the whole idea of a race is who gets there first, not who goes the furthest, if it was the space marathon, American would've won, but it was a race, so Russia won.
 
spud_meister said:
But the whole idea of a race is who gets there first, not who goes the furthest, if it was the space marathon, American would've won, but it was a race, so Russia won.
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I have heard it defined both ways, but my teachers have always defined it as getting to the moon, so I have always believed that. It could be wrong though.
 
spud_meister said:
Russia did win the space race, they got the first person in space, and the competition with America over defence and technology, of which the space race was a part, did in part lead to the downfall of the USSR, so she's not entirely wrong.
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Ha,ha, I knew the conservatives would jump at the opportunity to defend the Sacred Mother, even at the expense of appearing like fools! And to think that those who consider themselves such "Patriots" are willing to declare Russia the winner, something they would never consider, unless it is in the matter of defending Palin!


Russia won the space race? WTF? Palintology - Current Events - Current Events - HISTORY community - Message Board
 
The space race was everything space. It was getting to space, space-walking, going to the moon, landing on the moon, launching satellites, etc. The race itself ended well before the collapse of the Soviet Union - probably somewhere in the early to mid seventies.

Once we planted our flag on the moon, the Soviets lost interest pretty quick.

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And it's not open to interpretation. The space race was the name for the time. Kind of like the cold war. There was no war that was cold.
 
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spud_meister said:
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Yeah Spud you stupid conservative, go have your "special time" with your crusty picture of Palin, and leave us liberals alone :2razz:
 
mertex said:
Oops! What have we got here - a Palin lovin Libral!
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Nope, just a bored liberal, the whole point if this site is to debate, and I'd get bored if I debated from the same perspective continually.
 
spud_meister said:
And they can't spell 'their' either. :2razz:
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Curse my smaller woman brain!!! I better get back in the kitchen and fix dinner before I give birth again, things would be so much better if I only had shoes
 
Your Star said:
Curse my smaller woman brain!!! I better get back in the kitchen and fix dinner before I give birth again, things would be so much better if I only had shoes
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It's great when they don't need reminding of their place. :mrgreen:
 
spud_meister said:
Russia did win the space race, they got the first person in space, and the competition with America over defence and technology, of which the space race was a part, did in part lead to the downfall of the USSR, so she's not entirely wrong.
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99.9999% wrong.

And her latest WTF brain fart means that communism worked, it was just all that money they spent on competing with us that brought them down...
 
Anyone ever have friends or brothers when they were growing up? You get out of the car and go "Race you to the house!" and off you go. But when it looks like the other ones is going to make it to the house first you quickly go "Its first to get into the couch in the living room!" figuring that'll give you at least a shot to catch up.

That's essentially what's happened with regards to how the U.S. determined what the "Space Race" was. The first into SPACE was the USSR...but, that makes for ****ty material in a 6th grade text book in America. So the goalpost was quickly changed to the Moon, which the U.S. won.

Honestly, the most accurate way to describe it in my mind would be the Race to Space and the Race to the Moon.

The overall "Space Race" moniker is broad and impossible to truly define, making Palin's words no more dumb or uneducated than the OP's mocking of her.
 
Zyphlin said:
The overall "Space Race" moniker is broad and impossible to truly define, making Palin's words no more dumb or uneducated than the OP's mocking of her.
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Not really, considering the race did end at least 10 years before the collapse of the USSR. You could blame the arms race for a partial reason for its collapse. I think that would be valid.
 
Your links don't claim that they said those things. They said similar things which were true and/or debatable. This thread is a straw man.
 


Ha,ha, another conservative trying desperately to find some wiggle room, and save the "Princess" from the Dragon - which by the way, you are too late. The Dragon already ate her, back when she claimed that she had foreign policy experience because you can see Russia from Alaska and Putin flies over her house! Way back when she claimed she read all the magazines and newspapers! OMG! Imagine how long it would take to read all those magazines and newspapers!

Even Wikipedia describes it as:

The launch of Sputnik inaugurated the Space Race. This culminated in the Apollo Moon landings, which astronaut Frank Borman later described as "just a battle in the Cold War."

Inaugurate:
to make a formal beginning of; initiate; commence; begin:
 
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