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How is it more rational to say that everyone needs an education, so we'll provide public schools, but health care is a commodity that should be determined by how much one is willing to pay for service?
The difference being the hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt left behind because he got sick. In an emergency room everyone will get treatment, the problem is the cost of the treatment. Even if you break $400,000 into monthly payments of $1,000 it would take 400 months (33 years) to pay it off.
I have no doubt that's the entire solution for Libertarians(and other GOP refugees).
Thats because Libertarian ideas spring primarily from the "I've got mine, so everyone else can just go **** themselves." school of philosophy.
It's available to everyone, not just those who (currently) need it.
The very notion that someone deserves better (non-cosmetic) medical treatment than someone else because they have more money is absurd.
How is it more rational to say that everyone needs an education, so we'll provide public schools, but health care is a commodity that should be determined by how much one is willing to pay for service?
There's virtually no upper limit to the amount (and cost) of life-prolonging medical care people need before they finally die. Public Ed is not quite as potentially limitless as keeping people alive is.
Care that expensive shouldn't be happening as often as it is. Period.
Oh, you mean the thousand points of light that will magically take over so you don't have to bear any responsibility to your fellow citizens? If that were happening, health care cost would not be the leading cause of bankruptcy in this country.
And even more importantly, as The Institute of Medicine estimates: "18,000 Americans die prematurely each year due to the effects of lack of health insurance coverage."
Physical Health Care Systems
I don't have any responsibilty to my fellow citizens, just myself.
Its not for me, its for them. I'm there for the ride and pay for their care and mine. While its true I will get care, its also true I have no reason to expect the same level of care in the new system and I have no interest in joining.
I support private schooling. Public schooling offers a system of education that has lower baseline.
I don't have any responsibilty to my fellow citizens, just myself.
Tea Party/Libertarian philosophy in a nutshell.
You sound like you share the same mentality with most people in Congress. Wonder why they're virtually powerless in getting any real work done.
Sounds like I believe in self-responsibility...I know, what a horrible viewpoint to think people should care for themselves.
Sounds like I believe in self-responsibility...I know, what a horrible viewpoint to think people should care for themselves.
Sounds like I believe in self-responsibility...I know, what a horrible viewpoint to think people should care for themselves.
I don't have any responsibilty to my fellow citizens, just myself.
What a ridiculous statement.Fine. But you have to willing them die, even if it is someone you care about. It's hard thing for many to do.
He's right without the island nation dude.And if you lived on your own island nation - you would be right.
Most likely you and I are polar opposites on the political spectrum. And the funny thing is that I agree since I too believe in responsibility and I think people should take care of themselves.
I also think people should eat right, exercise, go to bed early, stay in shape, get educated, be frugal, only have kids when you are ready for them and them love them with all your heart body and soul, be constructive members of the community, and all those other things that make for a rather conservative lifestyle.
I also realize that I am not GOD and cannot make all those things reality.
This is where philosophy conflicts with real life application.
Personally, I believe housing should be absolutely free, food and water should be free, people should only have to work 20 hours per week in order to live comfortably ect.
However, these are not pragmatic in practice. Believing something and effectively implementing it are two different things.
And if you lived on your own island nation - you would be right.
And if you lived on your own island nation - you would be right.
I don't have any responsibilty to my fellow citizens, just myself.
Which explains why Libertarian candidates receive only a tiny, tiny fraction of support in elections by your fellow citizens. You don't care about them, so they don't care about your agenda.
Its works out just as it should!
Well, at least of the right wing of the Libertarian party. There are many of the Libertarian left, such as Bardo, who see the same problems we do.
As if I care what support any politician gets. NEWSFLASH they're all the same.
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