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I'm sorry but I thought ALL LIBERALS are immature, dogmatic leftists that supports Islamism and hates all jews and christians.
It should be obvious by now that America cannot impose its will on the Pashtuns of Afghanistan. They will not accept American norms regarding the treatment of women or gay people.
It should be obvious by now that America cannot impose its will on the Pashtuns of Afghanistan. They will not accept American norms regarding the treatment of women or gay people.
I am growing so cynical that I often wonder if these countries don't break out in internal strife in order to qualify for US foreign aid.
I know.. sick, sick sick.
This is more of a cultural problem than a religious problem. Having had this discussion with Muslims who are not fanatics and have come from places like this they all seem to agree that the culture is the root of the problem.
Many times people confuse the issue. Non Muslims see it as Islam as the problem which in fact it's usually a bastardized form of Islam based on their culture.
you could tell by the crowd response just how upset they were!Manhunt under way for Taliban who shot woman in public execution amid cheers - CNN.com
Looks like they will be hunted down.. May get the death penaty.
Oh I got it!
The Key to victory in Afghanistan is to start executing our homosexuals and beating our woman!!!!
It can't fail!
I see why you are confused. You don't understand that defeating Hussein freed the Iraqi's from a despot.
Their culture is highly based on their religion. Once they reach the point collectively that they can internalize their religion, rather than relying on it to dictate to them how they are to perform every aspect of their daily living actions, they will have made a significant step in progress.
Their culture is highly based on their religion. Once they reach the point collectively that they can internalize their religion, rather than relying on it to dictate to them how they are to perform every aspect of their daily living actions, they will have made a significant step in progress.
And coincidentally that is not what happened.You can't bomb people into democracy.. We had a huge advantage over a country crippled by two decades of war and sanctions. Instead of a war we also had huge leverage thru diplomatic channels.
He denied it happened. I believe him.This kind of American "norm"?
George W. Bush gave an interview to a Talk magazine reporter about the execution of convicted Texas murderer Karla Faye Tucker, who became a Christian after her incarceration. Mr. Bush chose to mimic the late Karla Faye begging for mercy: "Please," Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "don't kill me."
I think you are bombing just fine without external help.Hey I have an idea, bomb globalists and we will cheer you.
Well, I'm not for sending our boys to engage them, if that's what you mean.
This kind of American "norm"?
George W. Bush gave an interview to a Talk magazine reporter about the execution of convicted Texas murderer Karla Faye Tucker, who became a Christian after her incarceration. Mr. Bush chose to mimic the late Karla Faye begging for mercy: "Please," Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, "don't kill me."
And coincidentally that is not what happened.
Would you have felt better if we gave them a few decades to get ready?
Where has diplomacy succeeded in your opinion? I don't see it.
We got regime change in Iraq. They are free. We need regime change here. Diplomacy just hasn't worked.
Karla Faye Tucker and her druggy boyfriend Daniel Garret brutally murdered two people with a pick axe so they could steal the victims motorcycle.
My confidence in them waxes and wanes... Seems like they would be sick to death of war by now.
It is a peaceful religion. The actual text speaks of peace like the bible. But unfortunatly any religion can be turend on its head to justify acts like these.
Their way of life is war. That's how that area and culture of the world has solved problems through millenia. It becomes part of their identity.
That's pretty sick. Did he really do that?
Bah. Every holy text has evil and virtue. You can't say a religion is one thing or another, because it always depends on the interpretation. The Islamists ignore the peaceful messages and hold up the violent one. Moderate Muslims ignore the violent messages and uphold the peaceful. Every single religion on Earth has the exact same situation.
Don't say it's a "peaceful" religion, because the religion itself has no inclination one way or another. That's just as incorrect as saying it's a violent religion.
I disagree actually. For example, as a Jew I think its actually fair to say that the Torah, Talmud, and Midrash are fairly violent, draconian, and primitive codes of law and morality. However is Judaism violent? No because we went on a different historical arc that cut the tether to the ancient interpretations and practition of our faith. The diaspora and legal prohibitions forced a reliance on literacy, while perpetual minority status dampened the legislative aggressiveness of rabbinical courts and interpretation. Lack of a physical Israel shifted theological discussions away from law, justice, politics, and war, and toward familial and social considerations. I could go on and on. The reason I bring it up is that I believe Judaism and Islam are actually fairly similar religions, moreso than Christianity in that the point of both faiths in their original and orthodox form is to proscribe a code for living and governing every facet of life from cradle to government to the grave. I believe it is fair to say that Islam is more 'violent' because while Judaism shed its adherence or shifted its emphasis away from portions of this perspective (including in Orthodoxy which lack a state to control, but see the worst parts of Israel for an example of my point) Islam has not. The orthodoxy of Islam is generally unreformed and this remains a serious problem since it is less amenable to liberalization and reform. Why? Because how do you reform a divinely directed legal code? Anyways as I said before I think it is a problem to try and equivocate because it obscures very real and very significant problems and discussions.
I disagree actually. For example, as a Jew I think its actually fair to say that the Torah, Talmud, and Midrash are fairly violent, draconian, and primitive codes of law and morality. However is Judaism violent? No because we went on a different historical arc that cut the tether to the ancient interpretations and practition of our faith. The diaspora and legal prohibitions forced a reliance on literacy, while perpetual minority status dampened the legislative aggressiveness of rabbinical courts and interpretation. Lack of a physical Israel shifted theological discussions away from law, justice, politics, and war, and toward familial and social considerations. I could go on and on. The reason I bring it up is that I believe Judaism and Islam are actually fairly similar religions, moreso than Christianity in that the point of both faiths in their original and orthodox form is to proscribe a code for living and governing every facet of life from cradle to government to the grave. I believe it is fair to say that Islam is more 'violent' because while Judaism shed its adherence or shifted its emphasis away from portions of this perspective (including in Orthodoxy which lack a state to control, but see the worst parts of Israel for an example of my point) Islam has not. The orthodoxy of Islam is generally unreformed and this remains a serious problem since it is less amenable to liberalization and reform. Why? Because how do you reform a divinely directed legal code? Anyways as I said before I think it is a problem to try and equivocate because it obscures very real and very significant problems and discussions.
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