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Infighting amongst the Rebels themselves is starting to take importance.....the good news is the MB is weakened and wont be as significant here. Still Syria may just divide up into 3 separate states.
As far as triggering a wave a sectarian killings.....to late. It has already spread past Syria and is now affecting most of the ME. Both sides of Sunni and Shia are already assassinating each others clerics. Yet we are supplying weapons to the rebels. Wherein the AQ types can just take what they want from the FSA. At anytime they want. What a mistake this was.
It is always a mistake to provide arms to a uncontrolled situation, where we have no way of verifying who is receiving those arms, what those arms are being used for, and who might get ahold of them in the future. Year after year, decade after decade, the USA has been doing this kind of crap on nearly every continent in the world. Those arms always end up being responsible for massive bloodshed and innocent deaths, and usually end up eventually being used on our own troops.
Why in hell do politicians think that doing the same thing over and over will yield different results?? It's the absolute definition of mass insanity. :2mad:
Gee, look. It's exactly what the interventionists have been warning would happen if we let Syria fester. Whaddya know?
It is always a mistake to provide arms to a uncontrolled situation, where we have no way of verifying who is receiving those arms, what those arms are being used for, and who might get ahold of them in the future. Year after year, decade after decade, the USA has been doing this kind of crap on nearly every continent in the world. Those arms always end up being responsible for massive bloodshed and innocent deaths, and usually end up eventually being used on our own troops.
Why in hell do politicians think that doing the same thing over and over will yield different results?? It's the absolute definition of mass insanity. :2mad:
And how exactly would "interventionists" have changed this outcome? How would they have prevented the uprising from being used by the Islamists for their own purposes? How many American dead would we have by now? Too many unanswered questions lead to quagmires where nobody wins.
It is always a mistake to provide arms to a uncontrolled situation, where we have no way of verifying who is receiving those arms, what those arms are being used for, and who might get ahold of them in the future. Year after year, decade after decade, the USA has been doing this kind of crap on nearly every continent in the world. Those arms always end up being responsible for massive bloodshed and innocent deaths, and usually end up eventually being used on our own troops.
Why in hell do politicians think that doing the same thing over and over will yield different results?? It's the absolute definition of mass insanity. :2mad:
On a related note I'm a strong supporter of Kurdish autonomy and I think we should be investing time and energy to try and reconcile the Syrian Kurdish groups with Ankara and guide them away from the PKK which I think is still a distinct possibility. Doing so would create a perfect vehicle for influencing events inside Syria, safeguarding oil resources, and creating a democratic enclave linked to the KRG. It also would relieve Turkey and accelerate ties of amity that have been developing between the Kurds (the KRG specifically) and Ankara.
IIRC the PYD is affiliated with the PKK (too many acronyms?). Considering the historical animosity between the Turks and the Kurds, and the former's chauvinistic oppression of the latter, I think a lasting peace will be difficult to achieve at best.
And how exactly would "interventionists" have changed this outcome?
How would they have prevented the uprising from being used by the Islamists for their own purposes?
How many American dead would we have by now?
Too many unanswered questions lead to quagmires where nobody wins.
I just got back from the KRG and the Syrian-Turkish-Kurdish border regions and while opinion and sentiment vary dramatically depending on what community you are in the animosity of a decade ago has completely changed. Among Iraqi Kurds the relationship with the Turks has become one of a rushed alliance born of massive commercial investment, regional political realities, and economic potential.
For Iranian Kurds the relationship has thawed somewhat due to tepid US interest in the Iranian Kurdish PJAK and the hope that making peace with Turkey will result in a more favorable situation. This line of reasoning has only gained more popularity as a result of the Turkish-PKK peace negotiations. As for Syrian Kurds there has been almost a volte face. The exchange of contacts between the PYD and Ankara is fairly overt, and while Turkey hasn't cozied up to the PYD they have allowed it to function without opposition and have coordinated with Erbil in the creation of the Kurdish National Council (KNC) that foisted a non-PKK aligned Kurdish political organization into the Kurdish regions.
Much rests upon the future of the PKK-Turkey ceasefire and peace settlement, if it holds then I think you will see one of the biggest sea-changes in the regions political alignment since... hah the Arab Spring. A Turkish alliance with Erbil, a Turkish alliance with Qamshali, it's all possible now which would have been unthinkable a decade ago.
I just got back from the KRG and the Syrian-Turkish-Kurdish border regions and while opinion and sentiment vary dramatically depending on what community you are in the animosity of a decade ago has completely changed. Among Iraqi Kurds the relationship with the Turks has become one of a rushed alliance born of massive commercial investment, regional political realities, and economic potential.
For Iranian Kurds the relationship has thawed somewhat due to tepid US interest in the Iranian Kurdish PJAK and the hope that making peace with Turkey will result in a more favorable situation. This line of reasoning has only gained more popularity as a result of the Turkish-PKK peace negotiations. As for Syrian Kurds there has been almost a volte face. The exchange of contacts between the PYD and Ankara is fairly overt, and while Turkey hasn't cozied up to the PYD they have allowed it to function without opposition and have coordinated with Erbil in the creation of the Kurdish National Council (KNC) that foisted a non-PKK aligned Kurdish political organization into the Kurdish regions.
Much rests upon the future of the PKK-Turkey ceasefire and peace settlement, if it holds then I think you will see one of the biggest sea-changes in the regions political alignment since... hah the Arab Spring. A Turkish alliance with Erbil, a Turkish alliance with Qamshali, it's all possible now which would have been unthinkable a decade ago.
Heya Sherman. :2wave: Keep us updated on it if you can. As this puts into perspective as to whats taking place inside Syria. Moreso than what is being touted by Rebel/Terrorist Supporters.
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I enjoy and agree with many of Shermans posts in relation to the Syrian situation. We're on the same page in relation to many of the issues.
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