Syracuse cop and Onondaga sheriff’s deputy shot and killed (1 Viewer)

[poppopfox]

We do have penalties like this available but they are rarely used or the firearms charge is removed in a plea bargin.
I work part time in a friend Firearms store.
We have a huge stack of refused ATF 4473s. Many are felons. There is never any follow-up on these by law enforcement. If a felon is turned down at a legal shop, what do you think that felon does next?

Have you looked into the reasons for that? Could it be that the ATF lacks the resources?

The Gun Industry’s Federal Watchdog Never Stood a Chance
This episode of The Gun Machine draws on host Alain Stephens’ seven years of reporting on the ATF to chronicle how the gun lobby and its Congressional allies worked to limit the agency’s enforcement powers and resources. Stephens speaks to Steve Dettelbach — the ATF’s first permanent director in seven years — about the challenges agents face trying to do their jobs. Stephens also talks to retired ATF agent David Chipman about how controversial episodes like the Ruby Ridge standoff and the Waco siege turned public opinion against the agency, paving the way for budget cuts and legislative restrictions.
Alain Stephens: Things like going after bad gun stores, or arms traffickers get a bit dicier, when every move made may find the agency raked over the coals in a Congressional inquiry. So the prosecutorial appetite drops. And when it comes to the regulatory side, the agency loses its teeth nearly altogether. Having to be overwhelmingly friendly and forgiving, moving from a mission of deterrence to one of compliance. Hoping to win over an industry, and lobbying groups like the NRA and the National Shootings Sports Foundation, who actively attempt to stymie the Bureau’s efforts.

Before you attack the source do a Google search, ATF lacks resources, there are plenty more that evidence the claims made in the above article.

 

[stealthycat]

Not a partisanship issue, shame you have to take a sad situation and try to make it so.
Nothing in the article made the claim that the suspect was a known criminal, nor that they had weapons illegally.

very much partisan

Democrats are anti-police (defund police, remember that ?) , they tell us through media to distrust police .... they pass laws to let criminals out early, to lessen sentencing, encouraging people to allow theft etc .......... they fight hard against legal, law abiding gun owners instead of focusing on criminals. Crazy

time will tell - I'm guessing a guy with a stolen car shooting at police isn't going to be an upstanding citizens .... wanna make a $ bet ??

 

[RF667799]

Have you looked into the reasons for that? Could it be that the ATF lacks the resources?

The Gun Industry’s Federal Watchdog Never Stood a Chance
This episode of The Gun Machine draws on host Alain Stephens’ seven years of reporting on the ATF to chronicle how the gun lobby and its Congressional allies worked to limit the agency’s enforcement powers and resources. Stephens speaks to Steve Dettelbach — the ATF’s first permanent director in seven years — about the challenges agents face trying to do their jobs. Stephens also talks to retired ATF agent David Chipman about how controversial episodes like the Ruby Ridge standoff and the Waco siege turned public opinion against the agency, paving the way for budget cuts and legislative restrictions.
Alain Stephens: Things like going after bad gun stores, or arms traffickers get a bit dicier, when every move made may find the agency raked over the coals in a Congressional inquiry. So the prosecutorial appetite drops. And when it comes to the regulatory side, the agency loses its teeth nearly altogether. Having to be overwhelmingly friendly and forgiving, moving from a mission of deterrence to one of compliance. Hoping to win over an industry, and lobbying groups like the NRA and the National Shootings Sports Foundation, who actively attempt to stymie the Bureau’s efforts.

Before you attack the source do a Google search, ATF lacks resources, there are plenty more that evidence the claims made in the above article.

Gun Control Industry Wails About ATF Being Victims

 

[poppopfox]

very much partisan

Not to citizens with some semblance of education, an open mind, the ability to think for themselves and who can recognize the difference between facts and BS claims.

Now, got anything besides partisan propaganda to spew in regards to the topic?