Swiftboating Sec'y Clinton, 2016-style

[Linc]

They're back.
From the GOP that insisted on exposing a secret CIA facility,
causing 15 people who cooperated with those FOUR dead Americans to be killed themselves.

And we're still 33 months away from the 2016 election.
This business started just after BHO was reelected with Reince Priebus.

And I thought I was done supporting Mrs. Clinton, and wanted to be done .

 

[cpwill]

They're back.
From the GOP that insisted on exposing a secret CIA facility,
causing 15 people who cooperated with those FOUR dead Americans to be killed themselves.

And we're still 33 months away from the 2016 election.
This business started just after BHO was reelected with Reince Priebus.

And I thought I was done supporting Mrs. Clinton, and wanted to be done .

Now that's interesting. Can you link to the investigations into Benghazi resulting in the death of 15 recruited assets of ours?

 

[danarhea]

They're back.
From the GOP that insisted on exposing a secret CIA facility,
causing 15 people who cooperated with those FOUR dead Americans to be killed themselves.

And we're still 33 months away from the 2016 election.
This business started just after BHO was reelected with Reince Priebus.

And I thought I was done supporting Mrs. Clinton, and wanted to be done .

Hillary doesn't need to be swiftboated. She is a garbage skow, all on her own. :mrgreen:

 

[VanceMack]

I'm not sure what is the most comical here...the pretense of concern over the dead in Benghazi, or the pretense that there would not be automatic support of HRC ("save the candidate!!!!").

Come on..."what difference does it make!"

 

[Cardinal]

I'm not sure what is the most comical here...the pretense of concern over the dead in Benghazi,

I too am pretty disgusted by the pretense of concern by Republicans over the dead in Benghazi.

 

[Linc]

Here's a site I stumbled on.
The posters directly call for the sniper-shooting death of Mr. Obama.

15 More Benghazi-Related Victims Murdered: Does it Matter Now Hillary? : Freedom Outpost

I did notice this site blaming Hillary for 46 deaths.
I didn't notice them discussing I$$A giving up 15 contacts .

Now that's interesting. Can you link to the investigations into Benghazi resulting in the death of 15 recruited assets of ours?

 

[VanceMack]

I too am pretty disgusted by the pretense of concern by Republicans over the dead in Benghazi.

And yet...pretense or no, republicans were asking questions. The democrat response... "What difference does it make!!!"

 

[Cardinal]

And yet...pretense or no, republicans were asking questions. The democrat response... "What difference does it make!!!"

Yeah, sure, that's what happened. :roll: That's exactly the kind of comment that undermines the credibility of your outrage.

 

[VanceMack]

Yeah, sure, that's what happened. :roll: That's exactly the kind of comment that undermines the credibility of your outrage.

Keep swinging for the fences. This is two threads within minutes of each other that you are batting o-fer on so you cant possibly bring your averages down at all.

The only time you surface on this issue is to defend HRC...and...you care? :lamo

 

[Linc]

Here's another one for ya.
Senate Report: 15 Libyan Sources For Benghazi Investigation Since Killed
Did Chairman ISSA really release these 15 unredacted names ?

Now that's interesting. Can you link to the investigations into Benghazi resulting in the death of 15 recruited assets of ours?

 

[Linc]

The only time you surface on this issue is to defend HRC...and...you care? :lamo

Yet you have nothing on the swift-boating yet.
It's on a Chris Matthews clip with the name of the swift-boat group if you care.
You guys are ****ing terrified of this woman .

 

[VanceMack]

Here's another one for ya.
Senate Report: 15 Libyan Sources For Benghazi Investigation Since Killed
Did Chairman ISSA really release these 15 unredacted names ?

From your cited source...

It's unclear if those killings were in any way related to the U.S. investigation, according to the report.

"The FBI's investigation into the individuals responsible for the Benghazi attacks has been hampered by inadequate cooperation and a lack of capacity by foreign governments to hold these perpetrators accountable, making the pursuit of justice for the attacks slow and insufficient," the report read.

The Senate report concluded that the attacks were preventable, faulting the State Department and intelligence agencies for failing to increase security at the diplomatic compound in Benghazi and share information about a secret CIA annex that was also attacked.

So...
1-who knows if those 15 were impacted in any way shape or form? Certainly there is no evidence indicating such, but do you believe there simply shouldnt have been investigations???
(well...yeah...I guess you WOULD believe that...)
2-The investigations were hampered by the lack of cooperation with our government and state department. THERES a feather you can put in your cap...right?
3-The murders in Benghazi could have been prevented.

Be careful!!! If you keep posting articles supporting HRC you might have her tarred and feathered before you are done.

 

[VanceMack]

Yet you have nothing on the swift-boating yet.
It's on a Chris Matthews clip with the name of the swift-boat group if you care.
You guys are ****ing terrified of this woman .

Thats because crying "swift boating!" is bull**** rhetoric saying "PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED!!!"

 

[Linc]

Have you ever done a detailed report on the Beirut massacre?
Or do you give a pass to every GOP President who lies us into a war that leaves 4,500 "empty" chairs at American dinner tables?
Your selective outrage over foreign mishaps, based on the party of the POTUS, is fully recognized.
Your dismissive attitude of 15 people linked to a State Dept. official in a CIA outpost is also noted for its hypocrisy .

From your cited source...

It's unclear if those killings were in any way related to the U.S. investigation, according to the report.

"The FBI's investigation into the individuals responsible for the Benghazi attacks has been hampered by inadequate cooperation and a lack of capacity by foreign governments to hold these perpetrators accountable, making the pursuit of justice for the attacks slow and insufficient," the report read.

The Senate report concluded that the attacks were preventable, faulting the State Department and intelligence agencies for failing to increase security at the diplomatic compound in Benghazi and share information about a secret CIA annex that was also attacked.

So...
1-who knows if those 15 were impacted in any way shape or form? Certainly there is no evidence indicating such, but do you believe there simply shouldnt have been investigations???
(well...yeah...I guess you WOULD believe that...)
2-The investigations were hampered by the lack of cooperation with our government and state department. THERES a feather you can put in your cap...right?
3-The murders in Benghazi could have been prevented.

Be careful!!! If you keep posting articles supporting HRC you might have her tarred and feathered before you are done.

 

[Linc]

How long will you be looking with this phony act?
Most would call that a disgrace to the Fallen .

Thats because crying "swift boating!" is bull**** rhetoric saying "PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DONT ACTUALLY LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED!!!"

 

[VanceMack]

How long will you be looking with this phony act?
Most would call that a disgrace to the Fallen .

Actually...I believe most would point out how ridiculous it is playing the 'victim' card over and over and over. HRC earned her criticism. Whats beyond comical is your assertion that golly...you WERENT GONNA support her...but...well...now...you must...

 

[VanceMack]

Have you ever done a detailed report on the Beirut massacre?
Or do you give a pass to every GOP President who lies us into a war that leaves 4,500 "empty" chairs at American dinner tables?
Your selective outrage over foreign mishaps, based on the party of the POTUS, is fully recognized.
Your dismissive attitude of 15 people linked to a State Dept. official in a CIA outpost is also noted for its hypocrisy .

THAT is what you are going to offer as an excuse? You just posted an article that torched HRC in your defense of her. By all means...keep 'helping' her...

 

[Grim17]

I too am pretty disgusted by the pretense of concern by Republicans over the dead in Benghazi.

Personally, I understand that people who serve in dangerous parts of the world are going to be killed occasionally, and our government won't always run smoothly or do the right things all the time, which includes taking the correct safety measures.... We are all human and making mistakes or using bad judgment is just part of that.

My biggest issue with Benghazi are the lies told by the Obama administration about the nature of the attack. Them blaming the entire thing on a damned video for weeks, when they knew within 24 hours of the attack that it was an act of organized terrorism is what pisses me off. If they withheld information or misdirected the public for national security reasons, that would be a little different, but that wasn't the case... They lied to us because the truth might hurt Obama in the upcoming election.

It seems as though everything that this president does is based on what's good politically for himself and the democrats, rather than what's best for the American people and that's the part that really burns me up.

 

[VanceMack]

Have you ever done a detailed report on the Beirut massacre?
Or do you give a pass to every GOP President who lies us into a war that leaves 4,500 "empty" chairs at American dinner tables?
Your selective outrage over foreign mishaps, based on the party of the POTUS, is fully recognized.
Your dismissive attitude of 15 people linked to a State Dept. official in a CIA outpost is also noted for its hypocrisy .

Hey...it occurs to me that you 1-started a thread complaining about "swift boating" of HRC, then 2-posted articles citing her incompetence at state for being responsible both for the lack of participatory support in the investigation AND in the death of the ambassador. In other words...YOU 'swift boated' her.

 

[Cardinal]

Personally, I understand that people who serve in dangerous parts of the world are going to be killed occasionally, and our government won't always run smoothly or do the right things all the time, which includes taking the correct safety measures.... We are all human and making mistakes or using bad judgment is just part of that.

My biggest issue with Benghazi are the lies told by the Obama administration about the nature of the attack. Them blaming the entire thing on a damned video for weeks, when they knew within 24 hours of the attack that it was an act of organized terrorism is what pisses me off. If they withheld information or misdirected the public for national security reasons, that would be a little different, but that wasn't the case... They lied to us because the truth might hurt Obama in the upcoming election.

It seems as though everything that this president does is based on what's good politically for himself and the democrats, rather than what's best for the American people and that's the part that really burns me up.

Yeah, I know, you people are obsessed with the stupid video because you think you've got an angle there. And I don't believe for a single instant you give a good goddamn about the people killed in Benghazi. You didn't care about the people killed in embassies under Bush you don't care about these people. Nope, don't believe it for a second.

 

[VanceMack]

Yeah, I know, you people are obsessed with the stupid video because you think you've got an angle there. And I don't believe for a single instant you give a good goddamn about the people killed in Benghazi. You didn't care about the people killed in embassies under Bush you don't care about these people. Nope, don't believe it for a second.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion...and your opinion will certainly be given all the weight your post history deserves. BTW...do YOU care about the lives lost in Benghazi?

 

[Cardinal]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion...and your opinion will certainly be given all the weight your post history deserves. BTW...do YOU care about the lives lost in Benghazi?

I think what most people probably believe about their deaths: they were in a hostile country, they got killed, and that sucks for them and their family. I feel their deaths were tragic in the same way that all our soldiers' deaths were tragic: they were in a foreign land under circumstances I'm not entirely convinced we needed to be there for. But in a hostile, uncontrolled territory they were, and the kinds of miscommunications and bureaucratic decisions that resulted in insufficient security need to be corrected for the future.

But no, forget all that, just keep focusing on that ****ing video and shouting mindless bumpersticker rants (Obama let them die! What difference does it make!) that guarantees that the investigative and corrective process after the fact drops a hundred IQ points and so that any intelligent dialogue is squeezed out. Because you don't care about the dead, and you don't care about solutions. Your only focus is on tacking this onto Obama and now Clinton, nothing else.

 

[VanceMack]

I think what most people probably believe about their deaths: they were in a hostile country, they got killed, and that sucks for them and their family. I feel their deaths were tragic in the same way that all our soldiers' deaths were tragic: they were in a foreign land under circumstances I'm not entirely convinced we needed to be there for. But in a hostile, uncontrolled territory they were, and the kinds of miscommunications and bureaucratic decisions that resulted in insufficient security need to be corrected for the future.

But no, forget all that, just keep focusing on that ****ing video and shouting mindless bumpersticker rants (Obama let them die! What difference does it make!) that guarantees that the investigative and corrective process after the fact drops a hundred IQ points and so that any intelligent dialogue is squeezed out.

Perhaps had there been honest investigations we would have been able to determine who did or didnt do what to make those changes as you suggested. Hard to make 'corrections' (your word) when everyone in the process is so busy saying they dont know, it wasnt me, I was on a campaign trip, I found out the same as you guys did on the news, and after all...what difference does it make???

 

[CanadaJohn]

They're back.
From the GOP that insisted on exposing a secret CIA facility,
causing 15 people who cooperated with those FOUR dead Americans to be killed themselves.

And we're still 33 months away from the 2016 election.
This business started just after BHO was reelected with Reince Priebus.

And I thought I was done supporting Mrs. Clinton, and wanted to be done .

Why is it that Republicans pointing out a Democrat's history and shortcomings is demeaned as "swiftboating" but Democrats pointing out a Republican's history and shortcomings is encouraged?

If anyone's been "swiftboated" recently, it's Mitt Romney who's 47% comment and Bain leadership was grossly misrepresented while Obama's history and words continued to be dismissed as irrelevant.

 

[Cardinal]

Perhaps had there been honest investigations we would have been able to determine who did or didnt do what to make those changes as you suggested. Hard to make 'corrections' (your word) when everyone in the process is so busy saying they dont know, it wasnt me, I was on a campaign trip, I found out the same as you guys did on the news, and after all...what difference does it make???

Shouting "what difference does it make" is great for yucking it up in front of people who already agree with you, to everyone else you just come across as a moron and a partisan hack. It's why no one else actually believes you give a sweet goddamn about the dead.