This is a nation founded by immigrants and besides that, i don't respect national borders. We live in a global society and communicate globally on a regular basis (this forum included). We have a right as global citizens to travel anywhere
Those fringe elements you listed are no threat. You aren't gonna see north korean tanks down your street any time soon. But here is my point. I couldn't give a **** less if obama was born in kenya. That has no relevance to anything except some antiquated and ethnocentric belief that kenyans aren't to be trusted, even if they have no memory of the place. I couldn't give a **** less if ted cruz is canadian, or arnold is austrian.
You really have to be paranoid indeed if you think there's any chance the nutjob hermit they made a comedy of could ever win election here, or a staunch russian nationalist. You know who does scare me though? Ted cruz, sarah palin, or any of the uneducated masses holding public office. See, it's plausible enough to happen.
And you're a mod means i'm not surprised at the litany of stupid comments on this forum
It is subversive to cherry pick who you want to count in specific places just to reduce the representation of specific demographics, which is what this is about. It is entirely arbitrary how we choose to draw districts, but the intent should be to make the legislature match the population as much as possible. This move is to achieve the opposite of that intent. The only purpose here to is to gerrymander districts so as to be less representative.
Seriously??? The solution is simple: Put a checkbox on the census form for "Citizen".
Sure thing. Just find me one single politician anywhere who has said "It is not my duty to represent the children in my district."
You should stop getting your news from pyjama news and Fox. Otherwise, you'd know that the Koch brother are trying to buy the 2016 election. Who needs Media Matters when you got:
Koch-backed network aims to spend nearly $1 billion in run-up to 2016 - The Washington Post
Secret Koch memo outlines plans for 2016 - Kenneth P. Vogel - POLITICO
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/u...-spend-900-million-on-2016-campaign.html?_r=0
Koch brothers political network planning $889 million of spending in 2016 | Reuters
Koch brothers set $889m budget for 2016 presidential election | US news | The Guardian
The group — which is supported by hundreds of wealthy donors on the right, along with the Kochs...
You know what I mean, minors shouldn't be counted when it comes to voting and electoral vote distributions. Only legal citizens of voting age, it's quite common sense really.
So no one has private property huh? We have no Right to tell others to not go onto our property huh? We should also let anyone and everyone safe passage onto military installations right? After all, its wrong to restrict others movements and we don't have the right to do so!
Yes. We do have the Right to restrict other peoples movements to areas that they do not belong. Until you see that your "idea" will always be considered preposterous.
And of COURSE you don't want to go into the practicality of it or the hypotheticals...because then your idea would be exposed for what it is. Nonsense. Looney Toons type nonsense.
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they would lose at most 4 seats in congress, that won't even bring the Rs up to a tie for the delegation...
No, it's really not. The purpose is to have the population represented in Congress.
and the population should be counted among the legal voting populace, not illegals or those who cannot vote. That dilutes out he value of the votes for legal voting citizens.
I find it odd the SC even picked-up this case, unless they're trying to go 'activist'?
O.K., fair enough - and good point.How can they be going to to activist when they already exist that way?
How can they be going to to activist when they already exist that way?
property as in living space is hardly the same as restricting someone from entering ANY part of a 3.8 MILLION square mile territory
granted, there is too much private property in america. Rich assholes think they can own land or housing they have no need for, like mccain not knowing how many houses he had (or was that romney?) Leave it to you though to go from one extreme of building walls to keep out people who pose no threat (but they look not white so all good!), to the extreme of pillaging the bedrooms of old ladies.
your strawmen do not deter me from this principle of equating freedom with free travel
and if you're gonna attach some crappy cartoon, at least draw it yourself
News Flash !!!!, The money reported by your links was from hundreds of supports, NOT just the Koch's. The correct amount is shown in the link from Open Secrets.
Freedom Partners is structured as a chamber of commerce and is composed of around 200 members, each paying a minimum US$100,000 in annual dues. In 2012, the organization raised $256 million.[4]
Freedom Partners - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The organization is funded by the Koch brothers.[5] The Koch brothers website merely mention Freedom Partners operates independently of Koch Industries".[6] awards grants to advocacy organizations with the goal of raising public awareness about "important societal and economic issues".[3]
So Fahr LLC is just Tom Steyer's money???
As for the Kochs, the nearly one billion is not only coming from their pockets, but also from Freedom Partners, an organization they founded.
So if you want to play child-like semantics, be my guest. But you cannot deny that the Koch brothers are heavily behind funding the next election.
Well I actually don't believe this case to be activist, citizens united was an activist decision, this one not so much, and a case like this is essential given an activist decision in the 70s (Reynolds) there is legitimate contention here, and it's a valid issue to sort out, I actually think the justices will uphold the status quo though, the census doesn't record the information nessecary to make the eligible voting registration system work
As are many others, on both sides, and that's a good thing. It ensures the flow of unrationed political speech.
Yes. they sure do represent Joe Schmo quite well.
They ensure that someone does.
Keep thinking that, Sparky.
With an unrationed flow of political speech everyone's view will be represented somewhere.
I would argue that Citizens United was merely a restorative decision, rolling back an activist assault on free speech.
So far Bernie Sanders is the only candidate who cares about the welfare of most Americans.
I would argue that corporations aren't people and you support legalized bribery.I would argue that Citizens United was merely a restorative decision, rolling back an activist assault on free speech.
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